Is it unsafe for women on the internet?

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#1 The_Last_Ride
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A great video on the subject. Any have any thoughts on the issue?

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#2 thatnordicguy
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Everyone is harassed on the internet, it isn't just women. For example: Go back to tumblr OP. Everyone hates you and we're all sick of this feminist bullshit.

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#3 -Toshy-
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Depends on what segment/community you're in. I personally haven't been harassed or anything of the sort, but of course some others have been.

I guess I'm just too boring to harass/stalk. :)

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#5  Edited By Master_Live
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Oh it is safe, and they float too.

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#6  Edited By harry_james_pot  Moderator
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Everyone can get harassed on the internet. Men, women, aliens, robots, whatever.. It's just that the media only seems to care when it's a woman.

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#7 The_Last_Ride
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@thatnordicguy said:

Everyone is harassed on the internet, it isn't just women. For example: Go back to tumblr OP. Everyone hates you and we're all sick of this feminist bullshit.

What...? Did you watch the video? It's exactly what it says in the video. FFS man, watch the video before you comment...

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#8 foxhound_fox
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Not unless they fabricate death threats.

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#9 thehig1
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Should Feminism still be a thing, is it needed anymore?

I'm not sure Feminism is relevant in Western Society because, while it helped women gain equal rights to men in our countries, those rights are now standard. Women now can choose careers and motherhood without condemnation from the business world and society. Women now get equal education and business opportunities as men and even run some of our country's top businesses. While feminism was needed many decades ago, its goal has been accomplished.

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#10 SambaLele
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Looking at evidence is always important. I like AEI because they don't assume, they check, then they analyse and propose a conclusion.

But I think the internet is somewhat of a toxic environment, something that catalyses radicalization of speech. And this should be worrysome for everyone. Especially because the internet is not a sentient being... the issue is how we face each other and public debates on this environment.

Read the following on that:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/27/upshot/how-social-media-silences-debate.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

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#11 thatnordicguy
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@The_Last_Ride said:

@thatnordicguy said:

Everyone is harassed on the internet, it isn't just women. For example: Go back to tumblr OP. Everyone hates you and we're all sick of this feminist bullshit.

What...? Did you watch the video? It's exactly what it says in the video. FFS man, watch the video before you comment...

Fine, fine. I was just a little fed up with this "hurr durr the internet hates women" and just assumed that it was gonna be some bullshit about how women are oppressed, but in reality she was rebuking those claims. I apologize, OP and I hope you can forgive me.

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#12 foxhound_fox
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@thehig1 said:

Should Feminism still be a thing, is it needed anymore?

I'm not sure Feminism is relevant in Western Society because, while it helped women gain equal rights to men in our countries, those rights are now standard. Women now can choose careers and motherhood without condemnation from the business world and society. Women now get equal education and business opportunities as men and even run some of our country's top businesses. While feminism was needed many decades ago, its goal has been accomplished.

According to today's misandrist female advocacy groups, you are a dirty misogynist agent of the patriarchy.

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#13 dave123321
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Has there been a widespread faked death threat issue

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#14 The_Last_Ride
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@thatnordicguy said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@thatnordicguy said:

Everyone is harassed on the internet, it isn't just women. For example: Go back to tumblr OP. Everyone hates you and we're all sick of this feminist bullshit.

What...? Did you watch the video? It's exactly what it says in the video. FFS man, watch the video before you comment...

Fine, fine. I was just a little fed up with this "hurr durr the internet hates women" and just assumed that it was gonna be some bullshit about how women are oppressed, but in reality she was rebuking those claims. I apologize, OP and I hope you can forgive me.

No problemo, just as long as you watched the video, i know the topic is kind of misleading. But i expect posters to at least watch the video

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as compared to what safety means for women in some third world countries, it's some some sort of a first world problem.

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#17 thehig1
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@VaguelyTagged said:

as compared to what safety means for women in some third world countries, it's some some sort of a first world problem.

Good point

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#18  Edited By Treyvon_Martin
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The real problem is the african american community. We're a target in every video game. Every villain or thug is an african american.

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#19 GazaAli
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"The cyber harassment of women is the civil right issue of our time" lmao

What, now women need to make a fuss and receive special treatment online too? What do feminists suggest we do to counter this gravely unsettling and worrying serious issue? More idea, fewer complaints please.

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#20 TheWalkingGhost
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People actually file complaints about that? A few people are rude to me here, better call the cops!

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#21 chaoscougar1
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Its the internet
No one is safe
Be smart and learn to protect yourself

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#22  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@roulettethedog said:

Trolls harass everyone Women ,Men, Boys, and Girls.

yup, and i don't get the whole argument that just women experience this

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#23  Edited By indzman
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Women should stop visiting internet if they feel so much unsafe. Plain and simple.

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#24  Edited By Renevent42
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@treyvon_martin said:

The real problem is the african american community. We're a target in every video game. Every villain or thug is an african american.

Too obvious...try again.

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#25 chaoscougar1
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@indzman said:

Women should stop visiting internet if they feel so much unsafe. Plain and simple.

lol

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#26 comp_atkins
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unsafe? in what sense? can someone call you a silly name? sure. can they do physical harm to you? of course not.

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#27 JimB
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@treyvon_martin: Don't play many video games do you.

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#28  Edited By Jacanuk
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I see Ride you are making joke topics now.

But no the internet is not more unsafe for women then it is for anyone else , we all have to watch out for virus, scammers, hackers, nackers, slackers and idiots.

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#29  Edited By amillionhp
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@Jacanuk:

And slack-jawed yokels. Don't forget them.

Oh wait, it was slack-jawed gawkers. Yeah, thats it.

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#30 MlauTheDaft
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I litterally got "harrassed" for claiming that I found Captain America to be a dumb superhero on Youtube, so yeah.... I think everyone is a potential target on the internet.

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#31 Fred_Flatulence
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Not any more or less than men.

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#bikinibridge

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#33 The_Last_Ride
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@Jacanuk said:

I see Ride you are making joke topics now.

But no the internet is not more unsafe for women then it is for anyone else , we all have to watch out for virus, scammers, hackers, nackers, slackers and idiots.

ffs mate, did you watch the video?

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#34  Edited By thatnordicguy
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@treyvon_martin: The mods haven't banned this poor attempt at a troll yet?

Anyway, what I believe a lot of feminists think is that getting insulted or threatened must only happen because they're a woman. When they're probably just idiots that everyone is sick of.

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#35 The_Last_Ride
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@thatnordicguy said:

@treyvon_martin: The mods haven't banned this poor attempt at a troll yet?

Anyway, what I believe a lot of feminists think is that getting insulted or threatened must only happen because they're a woman. When they're probably just idiots that everyone is sick of.

Exactly, everyone get's harassed on the internet

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#36  Edited By dave123321
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Has there been any major instances of false death threat claims?

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#37 The_Last_Ride
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@dave123321 said:

Has there been any major instances of false death threat claims?

I don't really know, the only one i could find with a quick look was this

Link

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#39  Edited By GazaAli
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@The_Last_Ride said:

@dave123321 said:

Has there been any major instances of false death threat claims?

I don't really know, the only one i could find with a quick look was this

Link

I think he was referring to that recent Zoe Quinn fiasco about which I know very little.

In other news:

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#40 The_Last_Ride
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@GazaAli: Well there are others aswell, Rebecca Watson isn't exactly a woman that is pleasant either. I think she has had a few people fired because of some bs she said