Is Hollywood dying?

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#1 LastCaveMan
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I just found out that they are making, Men in Black 3, Independence Day 2 and 3, Final Destination 5 and probably another 10 Saw movies. This leads me to the question, is Hollywood in a terminal decline of ideas?

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#2 Fire_Ants
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Hollywood is dieing? Someone should take it to the hospital.
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#3 hedden93
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is Hollywood in a terminal decline of ideas?

LastCaveMan

yeah but its not dying. They are still making a **** load of money.

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#4 8-Bitterness
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saw 7 will be the last one... so i dont know where you heard there would be 10 more anyway... no, people want those movies, so theyre giving them to the people, theyre not saying "here you go, LastCaveMan, have these movies!"
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#6 testfactor888
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I just found out that they are making, Men in Black 3, Independence Day 2 and 3, Final Destination 5 and probably another 10 Saw movies. This leads me to the question, is Hollywood in a terminal decline of ideas?

LastCaveMan
I am actually looking forward to Men in Black 3 even though I did not like 2 nearly as much as I liked #1. Independence Day was a fun movie and I think the next 2 should be decent popcorn flicks. Final Destination 5.... WHY!!! Seriously the first one I liked, the 2nd was ok but pushing it. After that its god awful dreck that I can't stand anymore. Saw I just hate that series altogether. Bottom line Hollywood has been out of ideas for years so I agree with that point of your post.
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#7 LastCaveMan
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saw 7 will be the last one... so i dont know where you heard there would be 10 more anyway... no, people want those movies, so theyre giving them to the people, theyre not saying "here you go, LastCaveMan, have these movies!"8-Bitterness

where's the originality gone? chris nolan cant make heist movie ripp-offs, all on his own. Hollywood are just dragging up dead franchises

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#8 dercoo
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Original ideas, yes (though not dead)

Hollywood, no

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#9 Link334
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not you again. ugh, no. did you see inception?
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#10 edinsftw
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I dont watch movies, so i could really care less.

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#11 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Looking at the signals comming out of hollywood, I would have to say yes.

A lot of the big companys which makes up the Hollywood we know are doing quite horribly economical, and there is a limit to how many rehashes of movies you can make before everyone tire out.

If I temember correctly theaters are not doing too hot either.

There is a reason why Avatar was claimed to be "the movie to save Hollywood"

Altho when talkign about this, what is dying is the Hollywood we know and grew up with, I doubt Hollywood would die, but the budgets of movies have become downright silly, and thier income does not match the costs anymore. (Or so I have gotten the impression)

The bloat of Hollywood, will likely be trimmed, and give way to a new generation of Movie studios. Ironically I kind of blame videoGames for the decline, together with the lack of ideas, and endless remakes.

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#12 PernicioEnigma
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not you again. ugh, no. did you see inception?Link334
What was so great about Inception, really?
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#13 LastCaveMan
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did you see inception?Link334

the basic idea of inception is original, but done in a very unoriginal way. the movie is pseudo intellectual, Memento is 10000 x better

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#14 T_REX305
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yes it is

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#15 PernicioEnigma
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[QUOTE="Link334"] did you see inception?LastCaveMan

the basic idea of inception is original, but done in a very unoriginal way. the movie is pseudo intellectual, Memento is 10000 x better

Agreed, the only reason people think it's an intelligent film is because it's made in a way that makes it difficult to follow.
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#16 QuebecSuperstar
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Yeah, creatively, Hollywood is in the intensive care unit and it is so because their only motivation to produce a movie is how much money it will generate.

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#17 PernicioEnigma
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I dont watch movies, so i could really care less.

edinsftw
Really? You're missing out then, there're some really great movies out there.
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#18 dissonantblack
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you forgot about the smurfs movie >.>. but yes they're out of ideas. Have been for years.

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#19 testfactor888
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Yeah, creatively, Hollywood is in the intensive care unit and it is so because their only motivation to produce a movie is how much money it will generate.

QuebecSuperstar
Well in the long run that is how a business should be run. Supply and demand. If people are more than willing to keep shoveling out money to watch movies that are in no way new and just the same old formula than Hollywood has all rights to keep throwing it at us. There are alot of good independent movies that come out but most get pushed by the wayside and never make alot of money cause they get run over by the big Hollywood productions. Also doesn't help that most of the independent movies don't make it out of a few choice markets, namely LA and NY.
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#20 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="Link334"] did you see inception?LastCaveMan

the basic idea of inception is original, but done in a very unoriginal way. the movie is pseudo intellectual, Memento is 10000 x better

Memento is entirely based on a gimmick. failing to see the better, here
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#21 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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They're not dying. Unfortunately. They've just run out of original ideas.

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#22 -The-G-Man-
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They're not dying. Unfortunately. They've just run out of original ideas.

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they haven't run out of original ideas, they're just putting too much money into movies to take chances. even if taking a chance or two would make Hollywood...i don't know, not suck?
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they haven't run out of original ideas, they're just putting too much money into movies to take chances. even if taking a chance or two would make Hollywood...i don't know, not suck?-The-G-Man-

Whatever the case, the fact remains that they do suck. There are some gems, Inception was one this summer,but not many.

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#24 camarowu
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Nope, they know exactly what they're doing. People will pay to see crap so that's what we get.

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#25 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]they haven't run out of original ideas, they're just putting too much money into movies to take chances. even if taking a chance or two would make Hollywood...i don't know, not suck?airshocker

Whatever the case, the fact remains that they do suck. There are some gems, Inception was one this summer,but not many.

yeah this could be the worst summer for quality in film history.
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#26 CHOASXIII
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Yeah and it started with James Cameron's Avatar and 3D films.

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#27 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

I dont watch movies, so i could really care less.

PernicioEnigma

Really? You're missing out then, there're some really great movies out there.

I have video games...they are more fun

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#28 Jazz_Fan
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It has been like this since the beginning of the industry.
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#29 KidCudi37
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Hollywood can't die.
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#30 mitu123
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Dying? No.

Out of ideas? Mostly yes.

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#31 Aspen706
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Man those movies are going to suck.
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#33 darrenholmes26
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I reckon Saw 3D's gonna be alright. They seem to be going all out for this one. They had some activity in Sydney last week where they were inviting people to get Halloween photos. The links here http://ow.ly/2WRaW. Does anybody know if they're gonna be doing this again?

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#34 PernicioEnigma
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[QUOTE="Link334"] did you see inception?LastCaveMan

the basic idea of inception is original, but done in a very unoriginal way. the movie is pseudo intellectual, Memento is 10000 x better

I haven't seen memento but I agree that Inception is ridiculously overrated, the story telling being compared to that of a video game says it all really...
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#35 AutoPilotOn
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people will still go see them, they will still make millions and they will still rehash old ideas and continue the cycle.
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[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="edinsftw"]

I dont watch movies, so i could really care less.

edinsftw

Really? You're missing out then, there're some really great movies out there.

I have video games...they are more fun

Fair enough, in my opinion the only genre of film games can ever replace are action movies.
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#37 Fuhgeddabouditt
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so, we can expect this on July 4th. You know, Will Smith day.
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#38 PannicAtack
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Because there have never been crappy movies with unwarranted sequels before now, amirite?
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#39 The-Tree
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They're not dying, they're just suffering from a lack of creativity.

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#40 PannicAtack
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Altho when talkign about this, what is dying is the Hollywood we know and grew up with,

Maddie_Larkin

You mean the one that kept churning out Friday the 13th and Star Trek sequels?

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#41 biggest_loser
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Check this out! It died long ago!!

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#42 PannicAtack
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I don't get why people hate remakes so much like they're OBVIOUS CRAP. I mean, look at The Maltese Falcon.
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#43 andalore
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The key to saving Hollywood is to make more Dinosaur movies.