If Obama is "anti business" and Bush tax cuts are so good.. then why..

Is it that since Obama took office corporate profit margins are highest they have been in 40 years, aside from the census, private sector job creation this year has outpaced GOVT jobs, the Stock market has rallied 30% since he took office and corporate earnings are up 35% since Obama took office, companies have more cash on their balance sheets then ever before yet you conservatives still say "Oh that Obama is anti business"

Oh and if the Bush Tax cuts are so perfect, then how come during the whole 8 years of Bush the economy only created a net 1.1 million net jobs.. Under Clinton when the tax rate was 5% higher than what its been the last 8 years we created 31 million jobs under Clinton.

Go ahead republicans, spin away and explain this one for me.

I don't see anti-big buisness as a bad thing.

His middle name is Husein, and isn't that really what matters? StopThePresses

Um what? You completely forgot that he was born in KENYA!

Can you believe that he puts Grey Poupon on his cheeseburgers? What an elitist pig.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]His middle name is Husein, and isn't that really what matters? Former_Slacker

Um what? You completely forgot that he was born in KENYA!

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

they are both idiots and thats my opinion, sadly i said "idiots" in a post and this will be modded

Win post is Win. Sig worthy even.

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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]His middle name is Husein, and isn't that really what matters? chessmaster1989

Um what? You completely forgot that he was born in KENYA!

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

Um what? You completely forgot that he was born in KENYA!

StopThePresses

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

All hail Reagan! The president who could do no wrong!

I really hate is when they say he is arrogant!

And who the hell qualifies as 'liberal elite'??? Don't they equate liberal with hippy??

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

chessmaster1989

All hail Reagan! The president who could do no wrong!

President? Pfft the man's a Conservative Saint-God.

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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]His middle name is Husein, and isn't that really what matters? chessmaster1989

Um what? You completely forgot that he was born in KENYA!

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

See! It's all part of a decades old international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

Commander Ripper was right all along!

Can you believe that he puts Grey Poupon on his cheeseburgers? What an elitist pig.

Lab392

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

chessmaster1989

Freudian slip?

Is it that since Obama took office corporate profit margins are highest they have been in 40 years, aside from the census, private sector job creation this year has outpaced GOVT jobs, the Stock market has rallied 30% since he took office and corporate earnings are up 35% since Obama took office, companies have more cash on their balance sheets then ever before yet you conservatives still say "Oh that Obama is anti business"

Oh and if the Bush Tax cuts are so perfect, then how come during the whole 8 years of Bush the economy only created a net 1.1 million net jobs.. Under Clinton when the tax rate was 5% higher than what its been the last 8 years we created 31 million jobs under Clinton.

Go ahead republicans, spin away and explain this one for me.

ColonelDrakePS3

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

fidosim

Freudian slip?

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

StopThePresses

Freudian slip?

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

Freudian slip?

theonlyway316

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

Not to be a Bush apologist, but those numbers make no sense. Maybe you are factoring in the jobs lost during the last year of his term.

The US labor force grew by almost 20 million during his term, not counting the serfs (illegal aliens) Throughout Bush's term, the unemployment averaged around 5%

So something is wrong here. Could you clarify how you got those numbers?

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

chessmaster1989

All hail Reagan! The president who could do no wrong!

I'm not doubting you, but I'd like to see some sources for this.

My main complaint with your logic is that Obama really hasn't done anything that could be considered "anti-business" save for the health care bill that was only signed a few months ago. The stimulus package and bailouts both aimed at benifitting business in one way or another. The way I see it, he inherited the tail-end of a recession, and saw the upturn. Besides continuing (at least) 8 years of interventionist domestic policy and increasing our national debt beyond the horrific level it was at already, he really hasn't "changed" much on the economic front that we can see the effect of yet. To call it his doing would be irresponsible.

The way you present that data makes it sound like when Obama got into office, he waved a magic wand and increased corporate profits. In reality, the recession peaked around his inauguration, and obviously, as the economy improves, corporate profits increase along with it.

Also note that Obama cut taxes as well, on both business and individuals.

green party. that is all.

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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] And he's part of the Hollywood elite. Where's Reagan when we need him most? surrealnumber5

All hail Reagan! The president who could do no wrong!

I'm not doubting you, but I'd like to see some sources for this.

My main complaint with your logic is that Obama really hasn't done anything that could be considered "anti-business" save for the health care bill that was only signed a few months ago. The stimulus package and bailouts both aimed at benifitting business in one way or another. The way I see it, he inherited the tail-end of a recession, and saw the upturn. Besides continuing (at least) 8 years of interventionist domestic policy and increasing our national debt beyond the horrific level it was at already, he really hasn't "changed" much on the economic front that we can see the effect of yet. To call it his doing would be irresponsible.

The way you present that data makes it sound like when Obama got into office, he waved a magic wand and increased corporate profits. In reality, the recession peaked around his inauguration, and obviously, as the economy improves, corporate profits increase along with it.

Also note that Obama cut taxes as well, on both business and individuals.

pink_floyd123

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

All hail Reagan! The president who could do no wrong!

pink_floyd123

edit: just because he is the best economic stature since him done not make him good

Not to be a Bush apologist, but those numbers make no sense. Maybe you are factoring in the jobs lost during the last year of his term.

The US labor force grew by almost 20 million during his term, not counting the serfs (illegal aliens) Throughout Bush's term, the unemployment averaged around 5%

So something is wrong here. Could you clarify how you got those numbers?

majwill24

yeah thats exactly what I thought... Though Linking probs wouldnt help because every site is so biased about this stuff we could probably find about 40 different sites all saying different things about how well bush's econemy did, or how terribly it did. etc.

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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]

All hail Reagan! The president who could do no wrong!

surrealnumber5

bushco ruined America and drove us into this mess. I don't care what Obama does...he can't do a worse job than bushco.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]His middle name is Husein, and isn't that really what matters? Former_Slacker

Um what? You completely forgot that he was born in KENYA!

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

StopThePresses

Freudian slip?

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

This thread is just...:|

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[QUOTE="fidosim"]

Freudian slip?

Snipes_2

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

:roll: So? What's the difference? Regardless of what anyone thinks about his religious beliefs it is nothing but distraction from true issues at hand. He's doing a good job with the economy that he was handed.

:roll: So? What's the difference? Regardless of what anyone thinks about his religious beliefs it is nothing but distraction from true issues at hand. He's doing a good job with the economy that he was handed.

Ultimas_Blade

Compare that to Bush, for example; he started a war, he blocked invaluable scientific research on personal religious grounds, he inherited a surplus and turned it into a vast deficit, his taxes favored the rich, he did very little to help the unemployed, his handling of Katrina was woeful and he made no sincere effort at all to look into New Orleans and make sure the city was repaired afterwards, he introduced the Patriot Act which trampled all over the constitution, he allowed torture to take place, opened prison camps where daily human rights violations take place. T

hey're all very real, objective policy criticisms, not ridiculous accusations that he might be a secret Nazi Zombie.

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Don't forget that he is a secret Muslim who wants to destroy America!

StopThePresses

Freudian slip?

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

Funny how context ruins everything. :(

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

:roll: So? What's the difference? Regardless of what anyone thinks about his religious beliefs it is nothing but distraction from true issues at hand. He's doing a good job with the economy that he was handed.

Ninja-Hippo

Compare that to Bush, for example; he started a war, he blocked invaluable scientific research on personal religious grounds, he inherited a surplus and turned it into a vast deficit, his taxes favored the rich, he did very little to help the unemployed, his handling of Katrina was woeful and he made no sincere effort at all to look into New Orleans and make sure the city was repaired afterwards, he introduced the Patriot Act which trampled all over the constitution, he allowed torture to take place, opened prison camps where daily human rights violations take place. T

hey're all very real, objective policy criticisms, not ridiculous accusations that he might be a secret Nazi Zombie.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

Freudian slip?

Snipes_2

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

Read the link dude. :|

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

:roll: So? What's the difference? Regardless of what anyone thinks about his religious beliefs it is nothing but distraction from true issues at hand. He's doing a good job with the economy that he was handed.

Vandalvideo

Compare that to Bush, for example; he started a war, he blocked invaluable scientific research on personal religious grounds, he inherited a surplus and turned it into a vast deficit, his taxes favored the rich, he did very little to help the unemployed, his handling of Katrina was woeful and he made no sincere effort at all to look into New Orleans and make sure the city was repaired afterwards, he introduced the Patriot Act which trampled all over the constitution, he allowed torture to take place, opened prison camps where daily human rights violations take place. T

hey're all very real, objective policy criticisms, not ridiculous accusations that he might be a secret Nazi Zombie.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

Freudian slip?

Snipes_2

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

Freudian slip?

chessmaster1989

I won't even waste any more of my time on this, because that is all it wll be: a waste of my time.

Funny how context ruins everything. :(