If conservative can't get the bible in school, why do liberals get evolution?

I realize that not everyone is a christian, but not everyone is a non-christian either.

Yeah, why would we teach science in school? That's just absurd.

No religious material of any form has any place in a public school. Evolutionary science can be tought, as it's not a religious institution. The entire point of public schools are to be free from any religious leanings of any form, and open to all, there are private religious based schools for those who demand a religious education.

I laugh at this idea that you must be a liberal to believe in the theory of evolution.

I laugh at this idea that you must be a liberal to believe in the theory of evolution.

rzepak

Not the same thing. Not every conservative wants to have bible in school, and there areconvervatives thatagree with evolution.

keep the bible in christian schools and out of public schools
seperation of church and state
public schools are run by the government and therefore should be seperated from religion

Separation of church and State. This isn't like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. I don't want your religion in my public school.

Teaching of religion = bad

Teaching about religion = good.

In public schools, I mean.

Is this a joke? Evolution is a fact.MrPraline

I'm waiting for the not joke,

Evolution is the cornerstone of modern biology, not teaching it would be a little absurd.

The theory of evolution is not connected to liberalism and neither is intelligent design (I suppose this is what you are referring to) connected to conservatism. :|

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Is this a joke? Evolution is a fact.megahaloman64

I'm waiting for the not joke,

Teaching of religion = bad

Teaching about religion = good.

In public schools, I mean.

789shadow

Evolution is the cornerstone of modern biology, not teaching it would be a little absurd.

T_P_O

You act as if doctors and biologists need to know that populations adapt and change over time, like bacteria would grow to resist antibiotics or eat nylon or something. That's just silly.

you really can't leave Evolution out of Biology any more than you can leave the constitution out of an American Governernent course.alphamale1989

You deserve a medal.

Is this a joke? Evolution is a fact.MrPraline

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Teaching of religion = bad

Teaching about religion = good.

In public schools, I mean.

Acemaster27

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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

Evolution is the cornerstone of modern biology, not teaching it would be a little absurd.

metroidfood

You act as if doctors and biologists need to know that populations adapt and change over time, like bacteria would grow to resist antibiotics or eat nylon or something. That's just silly.

For instance when you study to become a teacher you dont only learn what is to be tought to kids, but whatever there is to know about your field in order for you to have a spherical and complete view of it and to be able to answer every question posed by someone who is uneducated in said field.

Separation of church and State. This isn't like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. I don't want your religion in my public school.

Dark_Knight6

reeses is good, chocolate with tainted piss in it is not.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Separation of church and State. This isn't like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. I don't want your religion in my public school.

megahaloman64

reeses is good, chocolate with tainted piss in it is not.

Let's take a look at H1N1 or "swine flu," the only reason it became capable of spreading from animal to human and subsequently from human to human was because of genetic mutations in the DNA code of the virus. In the case of viruses, evolution takes place rapidly, with random beneficial mutations allowing the stronger viruses to survive and produce more offspring. Simply put: if evolution wasn't real, then we would have no need to worry about viruses and the 1918 swine flu pandemic wouldn't have happened.

Teaching is different from preaching. I went to public school some classes had us read the bible it wasn't a big deal as long as the teacher didn't preach, and it was relavant to the subject.

It's like prayer in school. My school would have a moment of silence when somebody died, as long as it wasn't called a moment of prayer everything was fine.

Personally I don't think Darwin's Theory is very plausible on the Macro-evolutionary side of things, but still it should be taught, and it's the most scientifically sound theory we have right now.

Evolution is based in hard cold facts. Even though I'm a Christian myself, there aren't many hard cold facts to support the Bible, other than those people actually exsited and they did do the stuff that the Bible said they did, but from the religious standpoint there aren't many hard facts to back it up.

Teaching is different from preaching. I went to public school some classes had us read the bible it wasn't a big deal as long as the teacher didn't preach, and it was relavant to the subject.

It's like prayer in school. My school would have a moment of silence when somebody died, as long as it wasn't called a moment of prayer everything was fine.

Personally I don't think Darwin's Theory is very plausible on the Macro-evolutionary side of things, but still it should be taught, and it's the most scientifically sound theory we have right now.

jrhawk42

Please elaborate why you believe evolution is plausible over a short time scale, but not a long time scale. Don't you believe in time scales on the order of millions to billions of years?

I didn't know that science had a liberal bias.-Sun_Tzu-

Evolution is not the platform of liberals. It's a highly regarded scientific theory. So highly regarded in fact, that even I believe in it.

And conservatives are not the ones pushing the bibles in schools - that's republican wackos. There's a huge difference. A true conservative wants nothing to do with religous dogma.

This thread is silly. There is no argument here. You cannot compare mythology to the theory of evolution. They are entirely different concepts and come from entirely different thinking.

anybody that honestly believes this should be shot.... i''m methodist christian, but i hate christians for the most part.... i'm only methodist because it's just about the same as the religion i thought of in my head. don't rape people, don't kill people, acknowledge god exists once or more times and your guaranteed to be let into heaven... if it exists... which i can say because god gave us free will so if he exists and gave us free will he knew the consequences and won't condemn us for eternity because of it. every religion is just a fantastic fonzie scheme.

I didn't know that science had a liberal bias.-Sun_Tzu-

Because, the purpose of school is to teach facts, evolution is fact, the bible is not. End of story. Darth-Caedus

And that is an opinion ;)

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I didn't know that science had a liberal bias.Locke562

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Because, the purpose of school is to teach facts, evolution is fact, the bible is not. End of story. PeterPerson

And that is an opinion ;)

Additionally, like I said, even if a religion is proven to be 100% correct, still the educational interest of it is not one that pertains to science related issues but issues that are innate with religion like morality, culture and history. Not science.

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Because, the purpose of school is to teach facts, evolution is fact, the bible is not. End of story. PeterPerson

And that is an opinion ;)

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Because, the purpose of school is to teach facts, evolution is fact, the bible is not. End of story. PeterPerson

And that is an opinion ;)

XD

Anyways the point of this thread is that conservatives can't have the bible in school, even it's optional or only for christians, but liberals can have evolution taught against religious beliefs.

[QUOTE="PeterPerson"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Because, the purpose of school is to teach facts, evolution is fact, the bible is not. End of story. megahaloman64

And that is an opinion ;)

XD

Anyways the point of this thread is that conservatives can't have the bible in school, even it's optional or only for christians, but liberals can have evolution taught against religious beliefs.

I think its pretty simple. You are trying to present it as a dispute between liberalism and conservatism, while its not.

This is coming from a Christian.

If people want to learn their religion in a public school they can. I don't know about the US, but here they have classes about once a week on religion in public schools. Sure there is a lot more in religious schools, but its not like all religious material is "banned". Public schools are not a place for no religion, it is a place for people of all religious beliefs and cultural backgrounds to come and study ... no one says religion is banned :?