I have figured out the best way to deal with criminals

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#1 BenedictArnold7
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I feel like we dont deal with criminals the right way.  If someone kills someone or steals something we put them in jail, but that doesnt really do anything other than piss the criminal off more... making them even more dangerious.  What we should do is release all the criminals, I know that may inintially sound ridiculous, but hear me out I am not saying release them into the streets that would be stupid.  I am saying we should release them into peoples homes.  We need to force people to take them in.  This will help them feel a familys love which is what they really need to become productive members of society.  Once they experience a family's love all of their dark criminal thoughts will be eradicated.  Do you agree?

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That is a HORRIBLE idea.

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Were you dropped on your head?
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Ok, this is officialy the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

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Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid? Cookie for reference.
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I hope this is a joke.

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#7 The-Apostle
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I hope this is a joke.

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#8 Fightingfan
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Private prison revenue is better than that.
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#9 Fightingfan
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I think we need a stadium like Rome, and throw serial killers in the stadium for sport. The one who wins gets to live free, or revenue flow if he continues to compete.
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#10 lamprey263
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well, your focus is on rehabilitation, you go about it a messed up way but you have the right idea, unfortunately the US prison system does not believe in rehabilitation, we like out prison systems to play an integral part in the degradation of society, we like them to be for profit and one of the biggest wastes of tax dollars
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#11 Fightingfan
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well, your focus is on rehabilitation, you go about it a messed up way but you have the right idea, unfortunately the US prison system does not believe in rehabilitation, we like out prison systems to play an integral part in the degradation of society, we like them to be for profit and one of the biggest wastes of tax dollarslamprey263

Prisoners aren't a waste of tax dollars - tax payers make money via private prisons.

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/cxw

 

102k revenue per employee. 

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]well, your focus is on rehabilitation, you go about it a messed up way but you have the right idea, unfortunately the US prison system does not believe in rehabilitation, we like out prison systems to play an integral part in the degradation of society, we like them to be for profit and one of the biggest wastes of tax dollarsFightingfan
Prisoners aren't a waste of tax dollars - tax payers make money via private prisons.

SOME people make money with EVERYONE's tax dollars
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So when a criminal murders the family he's placed with, do we stick him with another family?
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#14 Shadowchronicle
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Force criminals into innocent people's houses? What?
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]well, your focus is on rehabilitation, you go about it a messed up way but you have the right idea, unfortunately the US prison system does not believe in rehabilitation, we like out prison systems to play an integral part in the degradation of society, we like them to be for profit and one of the biggest wastes of tax dollarslamprey263
Prisoners aren't a waste of tax dollars - tax payers make money via private prisons.

SOME people make money with EVERYONE's tax dollars

They provide jobs, more taxes, and continuous cash flow for society. Private prisons don't simply help shareholders. One prison probably creates 500 jobs, and thus 500 more tax payers (random math).
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I think we need a stadium like Rome, and throw serial killers in the stadium for sport. The one who wins gets to live free, or revenue flow if he continues to compete.Fightingfan
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#17 Fightingfan
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Force criminals into innocent people's houses? What? shadowchronicle
They do it already without their permission, what's the difference haha.
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#18 WhiteKnight77
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How about no? That is not a good idea. I do like the idea of putting them in an arena sans weapons and let them have at it.

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#19 Stinger78
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TC, after you bring in a few serial killers into your house, you be sure to let me know how that works out. Oh, and I should probably mention that many murderers in prison are there because they killed family members.
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#20 Murderstyle75
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I strongly disagree, TC. That would just be crazy. The prison system just needs to change
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People in prison should be put to work anywhere a job is available but wear a dog collar that explodes if they brake a law
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Actual criminals need to rot in prison for as long as their sentence holds.

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#23 gangstafc
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I feel like we dont deal with criminals the right way.  If someone kills someone or steals something we put them in jail, but that doesnt really do anything other than piss the criminal off more... making them even more dangerious.  What we should do is release all the criminals, I know that may inintially sound ridiculous, but hear me out I am not saying release them into the streets that would be stupid.  I am saying we should release them into peoples homes.  We need to force people to take them in.  This will help them feel a familys love which is what they really need to become productive members of society.  Once they experience a family's love all of their dark criminal thoughts will be eradicated.  Do you agree?

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I think we need a stadium like Rome, and throw serial killers in the stadium for sport. The one who wins gets to live free, or revenue flow if he continues to compete.Fightingfan
Better yet, make it more like Escape from L.A. Put them all in a city and let them kill each other. :P
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#25 Murderstyle75
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Actual criminals need to rot in prison for as long as their sentence holds.

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As long as they have a release date, there needs to be rehibilitation. The idea of "Rot" in prison makes them even worse when they get out.
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#26 Mikey132
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Ok, this is officialy the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

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Funny thing that everyday I see this line written about a post.  And the human race is "supossed" to be getting smarter.

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#27 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I think we need a stadium like Rome, and throw serial killers in the stadium for sport. The one who wins gets to live free, or revenue flow if he continues to compete.The-Apostle
Better yet, make it more like Escape from L.A. Put them all in a city and let them kill each other. :P

That was based on real life - it's called Detroit.
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#28 Mikey132
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What we should do is keep them in jail and use them as fodder the day Aliens finally attack!

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#29 Ncsoftlover
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sounds better than the incarceration industry.

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So when a criminal murders the family he's placed with, do we stick him with another family?Sword-Demon
He won't feel the need to murder once he is welcomed by a family... Don't you want people to have you had?
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#31 BenedictArnold7
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That is a HORRIBLE idea.

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At first glance you mean... right? After careful thought you think it is a good idea correct?
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#32 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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OP is the dumbest human being ever or a troll.

Gonna go with B, Alex.

 

 

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#33 Dr-FANTASTIC
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This is assuming that all criminals and nutcases all have family issues. As a profession doctor, I suggest you stay far away of any kind of nursing or government system so these ideas don't spread _signed: Dr.Fantastic
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#34 BenedictArnold7
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Actual criminals need to rot in prison for as long as their sentence holds.

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But why... I think lack of empathy and sympathy is a huge problem in this society.
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#37 leviathan91
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Dumb. While punishment is necessary, it shouldn't be the main way to deal with criminals especially those who want to reform themselves. I think we need to reform our jails to help those who want help as well as allow their criminal records to disappear if they show a period of good behavior with no to little issues with the law.

That's my opinion.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid? Cookie for reference.

Tommy Boy. As for the topic, how about no.
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#39 fgjnfgh
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I advice you to watch documentaries on psycho killers and jails. Some of them are beyond a balanced mental and incurable.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]So when a criminal murders the family he's placed with, do we stick him with another family?BenedictArnold7
He won't feel the need to murder once he is welcomed by a family... Don't you want people to have you had?

did his own family not love him enough? :(
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[QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]So when a criminal murders the family he's placed with, do we stick him with another family?Sword-Demon
He won't feel the need to murder once he is welcomed by a family... Don't you want people to have you had?

did his own family not love him enough? :(

Yah, what about murderers that did have a loving family that gave them plenty of attention?

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Like lamprey263 pointed out, your idea focuses heavily on rehabilitativefunction of a punishment. 

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but there are other functions that one should have in mind when thinking about punishments and / or criminal law in general.

To name a few, I would say that deterrence / prevention and incapacitation of perpetrator / protection of society are just as important as rehabilitation, if not more. And in both regards, your idea leaves a lot to be desired as it:

1. does not deter potential perpetrators from comitting crimes - really, imagine what a potential perpetrator would think while deciding whether to commit a crime or not, if he knew that the "punishment" he would receive, would be placing in some loving and caring family instead of being placed in a prison...

2. does not incapacitate criminals from committing other crimes (especially against law abiding citizens) - as others have pointed out, there's no guarantee that the very next victims of some criminal wouldn't be the members of a family he would be placed in. When the criminals are in prisons, at least they mostly can't directly commit crimes against non-criminals, but could some family guarantee the same thing? I doubt it.

Besides, like you said, in many instances it could be the case that some families would have to be forced to take criminals in. That would be a violation of their rights right there. And for what reason? Because somebody else committed some crime?

And that brings me to the another function of a punishement - retribution, which is mostly there to assure the society that crimes indeed are bad deeds and that "reward" for them will be something unpleasant for the perpetrator. In your case however, it would be the family who would receive the most unpleasant part of the punishment and it is questionable if given their previous situation, many criminals would even view such measures as punishment and therefore their behaviour as something that society disapproves.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]So when a criminal murders the family he's placed with, do we stick him with another family?BenedictArnold7
He won't feel the need to murder once he is welcomed by a family... Don't you want people to have you had?

Someone watched too many family movies. Just because you "show him love" doesn't mean he'll do the same. Probably the best case scenario would be him doing drugs with his friends in your living room with your money.
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Seriously though,this "idea" is terrible and will turn society into a hellhole.

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#45 kraken2109
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If you want to remove prisons to save money etc I have a better idea

Pick a nice big island in the middle of the sea with nothing for miles around and put all the murders on it.

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Holy shit!

TC just went full potato

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Such concept already exists.

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I feel like we dont deal with criminals the right way.  If someone kills someone or steals something we put them in jail, but that doesnt really do anything other than piss the criminal off more... making them even more dangerious.  What we should do is release all the criminals, I know that may inintially sound ridiculous, but hear me out I am not saying release them into the streets that would be stupid.  I am saying we should release them into peoples homes.  We need to force people to take them in.  This will help them feel a familys love which is what they really need to become productive members of society.  Once they experience a family's love all of their dark criminal thoughts will be eradicated.  Do you agree?

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That is like what a pastor at my church was saying a few weeks ago. It is a risky decision to follow through. There would probably be backlash the first time violence occurred regardless of the party which started it.