How do people not believe in internal energy...

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#1 th3warr1or
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Ok I'm NOT trying to start a martial arts debate here, and honestly I am not a practitioner of any internal disciplines so I am not trying to promote internal martial arts here or say it is better than any external martial art.

What I'm trying to say is this: Tai Chi--It works right? I mean, not the ones you see being practiced in the park, but the actual applicable form of Tai Chi. That whole martial art is based off a strong center of gravity and supposedly 'redirecting' force from the opponent into the ground and/or back at him.

Then, the "Iron Body" skill that you see Shaolin Monks practice. It's actually works too, and has been documented on stuff like National Geographic and whatnot, right? The practictioners break spears using their throat, or push a van using 5 spears, tip first into the stomach. Even if you claim it's not razor sharp, it still has enough force over pressure to puncture your throat or cause significant marking on the bodies.

The examples I mentioned above just a few. So after seeing these things, what is the jusitification for these 'abilities' if not internal energy?

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#2 z4twenny
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check out this awesome new thing called physics, its the latest rage with all the hip young scientists.

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#3 Darthkaiser
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I saw goku using the Ki why can't we do the same?
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#4 cybrcatter
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Check out my magic:




edit: I mean internal energy.

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#5 th3warr1or
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check out this awesome new thing called physics, its the latest rage with all the hip young scientists.

z4twenny
No amount of physics will allow you to bend/break a spear using your throat. I understand 'tensing' your muscles and all, but I can barely BEND a solid wooden pole with my hands, I don't think I can do it with my neck even with any amount of physics application.
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I had a Chai Tea Latte once. Was pretty good.

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I've read in a book that you can use Ki to heal physical problems.
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I saw goku using the Ki why can't we do the same?Darthkaiser
Not talking about Ki, or shooting lasers from your hands.
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Personally I keep myself plugged into a wall socket at all times.
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[QUOTE="Darthkaiser"]I saw goku using the Ki why can't we do the same?th3warr1or
Not talking about Ki, or shooting lasers from your hands.

Well what about SSJ4? Or Majin?

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#12 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Darthkaiser"]I saw goku using the Ki why can't we do the same?Bluestorm-Kalas

Not talking about Ki, or shooting lasers from your hands.

Well what about SSJ4? Or Majin?

Definitely possible. I'm currently on SSJ3. I should be able to achieve 4 by 2019 if I persevere.
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It's a shame.
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="z4twenny"]

check out this awesome new thing called physics, its the latest rage with all the hip young scientists.

u_r_a_sausage

No amount of physics will allow you to bend/break a spear using your throat. I understand 'tensing' your muscles and all, but I can barely BEND a solid wooden pole with my hands, I don't think I can do it with my neck even with any amount of physics application.

So we have a dichotomy: 1) some people are stronger than you are or 2) physics is wrong. I wonder!

Your fancy logic has no place in this thread!

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#15 Darthkaiser
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"]

Not talking about Ki, or shooting lasers from your hands. th3warr1or
Well what about SSJ4? Or Majin?

Definitely possible. I'm currently on SSJ3. I should be able to achieve 4 by 2019 if I persevere.

You missed the lunar eclipse didn't you??
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"] Well what about SSJ4? Or Majin?

Darthkaiser

Definitely possible. I'm currently on SSJ3. I should be able to achieve 4 by 2019 if I persevere.

You missed the lunar eclipse didn't you??

I am currently in my SSJ4 state. I am now typing this while I drink coffee held by my tail as I eat a DragonBall

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#17 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"] Well what about SSJ4? Or Majin?

Darthkaiser

Definitely possible. I'm currently on SSJ3. I should be able to achieve 4 by 2019 if I persevere.

You missed the lunar eclipse didn't you??

Damn you don't rub it in!! :x

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#18 bobaban
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People don't like to believe in what they can't "see/measure". They fear the unknown. If you need to convince them, they already won't be able to do it.
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#19 Chojuto
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Links to videos of all the stuff TC mentioned?
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Just because you don't have a rational explanation doesn't mean there isn't one.

People are able to do amazing feats because of specialized training not internal energy.

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#21 MichaeltheCM
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care to post some vid links TC? i've never seen anything very convincing to persuade me that this stuff was real :|
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#22 th3warr1or
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Just because you don't have a rational explanation doesn't mean there isn't one.

People are able to do amazing feats because of specialized training not internal energy.

jrhawk42
Cutting yourself in the same spot doesn't make you immune to cuts. Same goes for stabs.
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care to post some vid links TC? i've never seen anything very convincing to persuade me that this stuff was real :|MichaeltheCM
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#24 Sandvichman
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Ok I'm NOT trying to start a martial arts debate here, and honestly I am not a practitioner of any internal disciplines so I am not trying to promote internal martial arts here or say it is better than any external martial art.

What I'm trying to say is this: Tai Chi--It works right? I mean, not the ones you see being practiced in the park, but the actual applicable form of Tai Chi. That whole martial art is based off a strong center of gravity and supposedly 'redirecting' force from the opponent into the ground and/or back at him.

Then, the "Iron Body" skill that you see Shaolin Monks practice. It's actually works too, and has been documented on stuff like National Geographic and whatnot, right? The practictioners break spears using their throat, or push a van using 5 spears, tip first into the stomach. Even if you claim it's not razor sharp, it still has enough force over pressure to puncture your throat or cause significant marking on the bodies.

The examples I mentioned above just a few. So after seeing these things, what is the jusitification for these 'abilities' if not internal energy?

th3warr1or

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#25 Mochyc
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check out this awesome new thing called physics, its the latest rage with all the hip young scientists.

z4twenny
Hahahahaha, this is so true.
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#26 metroidfood
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

Just because you don't have a rational explanation doesn't mean there isn't one.

People are able to do amazing feats because of specialized training not internal energy.

th3warr1or

Cutting yourself in the same spot doesn't make you immune to cuts. Same goes for stabs.

Doesn't matter. There are ways of reducing the impact/force from even incredibly sharp and tiny blades. Just because someone can do it doesn't mean they have mystical magic/internal energy, just very good control and physical ability.

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Practiced monks can change the temperature of the air around them by meditating. Not making that up.
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Practiced monks can change the temperature of the air around them by meditating. Not making that up.Theokhoth
Give me a meal full of beans and sauerkraut, and I can do the same.

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Practiced monks can change the temperature of the air around them by meditating. Not making that up.Theokhoth
I can change the temperature of the air around me by living.
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X-Men. No other explanation.
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#32 HlHlHl
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lol ok Nothing mystical or spiritual about people being phsyically stronger than you.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Practiced monks can change the temperature of the air around them by meditating. Not making that up.cybrcatter

Give me a meal full of beans and sauerkraut, and I can do the same.

:lol:

It's great for making things disappear too.

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#34 Setsa
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It's all just conditioning and chemical phenomena within the body. Just like some people have means of stimulating their adrenal gland before physical activity.