High Fructose should be banned. WTF do we even use it? (Lolericans only)

Europeans can enter to laugh at us.TheTolemac

Personal choice. If people don't want to eat it, it's not that hard to just look at the ingredients of the food you eat, and avoid it. My brother decided on a whim that he was going to give up high fructose corn syrup like 3 years ago. Hasn't eaten any since.

The last thing we need is even more government regulations, taking freedom of choice away from the people. People NEED to deal with the consequences of their own actions.

Also, LOL at the FDA needing more power. The FDA needs to be eliminated entirely. They've done nothing good, ever.

Personal choice. If people don't want to eat it, it's not that hard to just look at the ingredients of the food you eat, and avoid it. My brother decided on a whim that he was going to give up high fructose corn syrup like 3 years ago. Hasn't eaten any since.

The last thing we need is even more government regulations, taking freedom of choice away from the people. People NEED to deal with the consequences of their own actions.

Also, LOL at the FDA needing more power. The FDA needs to be eliminated entirely. They've done nothing good, ever.

the_bi99man

[QUOTE="TheTolemac"]Europeans can enter to laugh at us.MrPraline

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="TheTolemac"]Europeans can enter to laugh at us.Abbeten

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Personal choice. If people don't want to eat it, it's not that hard to just look at the ingredients of the food you eat, and avoid it. My brother decided on a whim that he was going to give up high fructose corn syrup like 3 years ago. Hasn't eaten any since.

The last thing we need is even more government regulations, taking freedom of choice away from the people. People NEED to deal with the consequences of their own actions.

Also, LOL at the FDA needing more power. The FDA needs to be eliminated entirely. They've done nothing good, ever.

Yusuke420

He drinks water and makes meals out of basic stuff.;)

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="TheTolemac"]Europeans can enter to laugh at us.Abbeten

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Personal choice. If people don't want to eat it, it's not that hard to just look at the ingredients of the food you eat, and avoid it. My brother decided on a whim that he was going to give up high fructose corn syrup like 3 years ago. Hasn't eaten any since.

The last thing we need is even more government regulations, taking freedom of choice away from the people. People NEED to deal with the consequences of their own actions.

Also, LOL at the FDA needing more power. The FDA needs to be eliminated entirely. They've done nothing good, ever.

the_bi99man

He drinks water and makes meals out of basic stuff.;)

Lolericans....that's some mighty trollin.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="TheTolemac"]Europeans can enter to laugh at us.Abbeten

Exactly. And that's why the FDA doesn't need more power. The FDA has been, since its inception, in the business of approving foods and drugs that are known to be highly toxic, while using their power and influence to deliberately eliminate safer, healthier alternatives. Why? Well that's not hard to figure out, when you consider that the "appointed officials" who run the FDA have always been former high ranking executives at the very corporations that sell the highly toxic sh!t, and they usually still hold millions of dollars in stock in these companies.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] i don't know what this is about, but the less government bans the betterYusuke420

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"] i don't know what this is about, but the less government bans the betterthe_bi99man

Exactly. And that's why the FDA doesn't need more power. The FDA has been, since its inception, in the business of approving foods and drugs that are known to be highly toxic, while using their power and influence to deliberately eliminate safer, healthier alternatives. Why? Well that's not hard to figure out, when you consider that the "appointed officials" who run the FDA have always been former high ranking executives at the very corporations that sell the highly toxic sh!t, and they usually still hold millions of dollars in stock in these companies.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] i don't know what this is about, but the less government bans the betterthe_bi99man

Exactly. And that's why the FDA doesn't need more power. The FDA has been, since its inception, in the business of approving foods and drugs that are known to be highly toxic, while using their power and influence to deliberately eliminate safer, healthier alternatives. Why? Well that's not hard to figure out, when you consider that the "appointed officials" who run the FDA have always been former high ranking executives at the very corporations that sell the highly toxic sh!t, and they usually still hold millions of dollars in stock in these companies.

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I use to think HFCS should be banned but I feel now that even if HFCS never existed or rarely used, obesity would still rise. But I personally don't care if it gets banned or not. If you ever tried soda with sugar vs soda with HFCS, you'll notice a huge difference in taste and sweetness in that soda with sugar is vastly superior.

However, even if HFCS is banned, there will always be alternatives unless there is a regaltory measure that forces all companies to make their soda with cane sugar, thus there could be an increase in the price of soda, which could discourage consumers from buying more soda.

There is a reason why companies switched from sugar to HFCS (and why coke released New coke so that they could release Classic coke). :P

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="Abbeten"] on the contrary, high fructose corn syrup is so very common (and detrimental to public health) because our government subsidizes the **** out of corn

MrPraline

Corn is highly subsidized in the United States since our congressman "love" our farmers so much. However, these farmers tend to be very rich and successful so these subsidies tend to be a joke. Corn Syrup was created back in the 60s, and became the norm as sugar became more expensive due to US tariff on imported sugar to protect the sugar industry.

Then our congressman, mayors, governors, and nannies want to protect us from sugary sodas in which they should get their heads reexamined and shoot themselves.

But Markets react to changes and make changes when necessary in which they did. I can't blame. Blame the government for making sugar so expensive and subsidizing corn. Personally, I don't care.

We use it because it tastes F***ing good.

It isn't the governments job to protect people from themselves. If someone eats too much Fructose and gets fat from it, it is their own fault. Those same people will find ways to ingest that much sugar in other ways if they want to.

It's a high calorie substance. Just like sugar. . . . .

It's a high calorie substance. Just like sugar. . . . .

sonicare

But at this point the FDA is the only way to actually bring back less-deadly sugar back into our drinks and food,TheTolemac

Or people could just decide for themselves, and use their wallets to change the market. You know, the way society worked before people decided they'd rather let their government make all their decisions for them?

Reform the FDA to make it more effective and less corrupt....nah just get rid of it and have no regulatory agency to make sure your food and drugs are relatively safe. Makes sense.Person0

If they could actually do a reform, and successfully squash the corruption, great. I don't believe that they can. The FDA has been corrupt from day one, just like the majority of the government regulatory agencies. They were specifically designed for corruption, not to regulate safety. That's just the facade they put on, to keep people from catching on faster.

I don't need a regulatory agency to keep my food and drugs safe. If I'm worried about the quality of the food I'm eating, I'll eat something else. Worst case scenario, I'll stop eating things that come from places I don't know. As for drugs... well the safest way to go about using drugs, regardless of regulatory agencies, is to just not take artificial pharmaceuticals. Fvck that noise. I mean, sure, there's some basic stuff, that's been around for decades, and is actually relatively safe, and effective, but just listen to the list of side effects in the commercials for that sh!t these days. Even if a new drug actually treats what it's supposed to (which isn't often), the side effects are probably far worse than your illness was in the first place.

[QUOTE="TheTolemac"]But at this point the FDA is the only way to actually bring back less-deadly sugar back into our drinks and food,the_bi99man

Or people could just decide for themselves, and use their wallets to change the market. You know, the way society worked before people decided they'd rather let their government make all their decisions for them?

Reform the FDA to make it more effective and less corrupt....nah just get rid of it and have no regulatory agency to make sure your food and drugs are relatively safe. Makes sense.Person0

If they could actually do a reform, and successfully squash the corruption, great. I don't believe that they can. The FDA has been corrupt from day one, just like the majority of the government regulatory agencies. They were specifically designed for corruption, not to regulate safety. That's just the facade they put on, to keep people from catching on faster.

I don't need a regulatory agency to keep my food and drugs safe. If I'm worried about the quality of the food I'm eating, I'll eat something else. Worst case scenario, I'll stop eating things that come from places I don't know. As for drugs... well the safest way to go about using drugs, regardless of regulatory agencies, is to just not take artificial pharmaceuticals. Fvck that noise. I mean, sure, there's some basic stuff, that's been around for decades, and is actually relatively safe, and effective, but just listen to the list of side effects in the commercials for that sh!t these days. Even if a new drug actually treats what it's supposed to (which isn't often), the side effects are probably far worse than your illness was in the first place.

It is a bad joke, the government subsidized a poision (basically), then it wants to give you "free high quality health care." We could easily lower health care costs by banning unnatural foods.

It is a bad joke, the government subsidized a poision (basically), then it wants to give you "free high quality health care." We could easily lower health care costs by banning unnatural foods.

mahlasor

Hey, guess what, HFCS consuption is down quite a bit, thanks to the negative press:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/high-fructose-corn-syrup_n_2551894.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=3029293,b=facebook

Hey, guess what, HFCS consuption is down quite a bit, thanks to the negative press:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/high-fructose-corn-syrup_n_2551894.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=3029293,b=facebook

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Hey, guess what, HFCS consuption is down quite a bit, thanks to the negative press:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/high-fructose-corn-syrup_n_2551894.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=3029293,b=facebook

TheTolemac

[citation needed]

What's your proof that all this stuff is incredibly bad? Since I'm a chemistry teacher, I'm on top of most of these topics. There is suggestion that some of the artifical sweeteners might trick the body into needing more carbohydrates, but that's preliminary. All the artificial sweeteners are considered safe.

So what are your sources for you rantings?

Because corn is incredibly easy and cheap to grow.

[QUOTE="TheTolemac"]But at this point the FDA is the only way to actually bring back less-deadly sugar back into our drinks and food,the_bi99man

Or people could just decide for themselves, and use their wallets to change the market. You know, the way society worked before people decided they'd rather let their government make all their decisions for them?

Reform the FDA to make it more effective and less corrupt....nah just get rid of it and have no regulatory agency to make sure your food and drugs are relatively safe. Makes sense.Person0

If they could actually do a reform, and successfully squash the corruption, great. I don't believe that they can. The FDA has been corrupt from day one, just like the majority of the government regulatory agencies. They were specifically designed for corruption, not to regulate safety. That's just the facade they put on, to keep people from catching on faster.

I don't need a regulatory agency to keep my food and drugs safe. If I'm worried about the quality of the food I'm eating, I'll eat something else. Worst case scenario, I'll stop eating things that come from places I don't know. As for drugs... well the safest way to go about using drugs, regardless of regulatory agencies, is to just not take artificial pharmaceuticals. Fvck that noise. I mean, sure, there's some basic stuff, that's been around for decades, and is actually relatively safe, and effective, but just listen to the list of side effects in the commercials for that sh!t these days. Even if a new drug actually treats what it's supposed to (which isn't often), the side effects are probably far worse than your illness was in the first place.

This person seems like a really nieve fool that takes forgranted the benefits and security he has when he goes to a super market and is able to see the ingredients on the product and understand that it went through certain checks to ensure its safe.. Yeah except for the fact that there are drugs that have been banned by FDA due to hidious side effects and what not... You seem not to understand that its FDA standard that they have to divolge that information to begin with..

:lol: What a ingenious idea, lets have NO oversight what so ever on the drugs we take and the food we eat.. I swear to god, do people REALLY want to live in third world countries, because with comments like this make baffles the mind.

This reminds me of when I drunk a Mexican Coke last week. The Mexican coke had like only 6 ingredient: Water, Sugar, Caramel coloring, caffeine, phosphoric acid, and natural flavors. Why the **** does a Mexican Coke/Pepsi have only 6 ingredients, but an American Coke has like double that?

[QUOTE="TheTolemac"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Hey, guess what, HFCS consuption is down quite a bit, thanks to the negative press:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/high-fructose-corn-syrup_n_2551894.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=3029293,b=facebook

jimkabrhel

[citation needed]

What's your proof that all this stuff is incredibly bad? Since I'm a chemistry teacher, I'm on top of most of these topics. There is suggestion that some of the artifical sweeteners might trick the body into needing more carbohydrates, but that's preliminary. All the artificial sweeteners are considered safe.

So what are your sources for you rantings?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="TheTolemac"] lol IN 2011 two years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also some of those deadly sugar substitutes also are involved. It;s like using poison to replace the pesticides you were already drinkig. With Mio and all that other stuff being introduce, and all flavored beverages and some other fruit drinks using acesflame which is just as bad if not worse than HFCSTheTolemac

[citation needed]

What's your proof that all this stuff is incredibly bad? Since I'm a chemistry teacher, I'm on top of most of these topics. There is suggestion that some of the artifical sweeteners might trick the body into needing more carbohydrates, but that's preliminary. All the artificial sweeteners are considered safe.

So what are your sources for you rantings?

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

It is a bad joke, the government subsidized a poision (basically), then it wants to give you "free high quality health care." We could easily lower health care costs by banning unnatural foods.

jim_shorts

In the beast, you have to starve it, in this case financially, people need to stop buying the crap. It needs to stop being funded too.

It always comes down to a matter of personal choice. I haven't touched any high-sugar product for a long while, and that won't change whether more high sugar products are introduced or banned.

It should be. it's been linked to diabetes and that's a growing problem in the U.S.

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TC should be banned.

It's not the government's job to tell people what they can and cannot eat/drink.

Intellectually I'm against banning anything.

Emotionally I hope every unnatural food and substance gets banned, I hope there is nothing in supermarkets except grass-fed meat, veggies, fruit, egss, milk, and possibly bread.

Everything else they sell should be f*cking banned and their factories bombed.

Fluoride should be banned.

Hollywood should be nuked, and DC should suffer a riot whereby all of the federal govt are dragged behind pickup trucks and their offices burned to the ground.

That would all make me very happy, on an emotional level.

That High Fructose is bad for you

i hate the SH1t I find it BULL CRAP that company's are allowed to even list that crap under sugar or say "no sugar" on their products.

Every time i "no sugar" i say it never had sugar in the first place.

sadly living in America it's pain to find even soda with sugar yet you can go nearly anywhere in the world and find soda made with sugar.  I usually buy Pepsi throw back when it's on the self even though i prefer coke or root beer.