have you ever cheated on an exam? is it ever okay to cheat?

Have you ever cheated on an exam? Are there any circumstances in which cheating is justified?

like if your professor cheats you out of an education by making you memorize useless trivia for both the mid an final exam and spews his leftist bias every lecture instead of actually educating?

is it okay to cheat then, since he's cheating you out of your tuition money, time, and education?

I cheated on an exam before...sometimes I cheat because I just hear others tell the answer. Well as long as the answer is correct I say it's fine. :P

As for cheating being justified, I don't know...the only time I think that cheating is okay is when playing games on your own and you use cheats on the game.

In high school I can't recall, but probably.

In college? No.

Probably a couple times. I don't cheat in college though, you can get in serious shit if you get caught.

Oh and I've never had issues with teachers wasting class time. It amazes me that that even happens considering how little time the teacher gets with you a week. I know my teachers are usually trying to cram as much information into each lecture as possible.

Shit no, I don't even like studying with other people. My friends and I did well enough by ourselves.

I haven't. As for if it's ok, I'd say that depends on whether or not you accept the consequences that might be brought on by it... I personally feel that tests are a waste of time, as are the marks, because it doesn't prove you learn anything, it proves you were able to retain information from the night before... However, I still try to get good marks and such, but I don't think a mark has anything to do with actual knowledge.

Before high school yes. During high school probably. In university no. Anything before university is a waste of time anyway so I don't feel I did something wrong really.

In college... I don't know if you'd call it cheating, but I'd save all my essays/term papers on my computer and re-use them (or at least part of them) when I got similar assignments in other classes.

High school, yes.

College...no, not yet at least

There's nothing wrong with cheating until you get caught.

In high school, yeah, a lot. In college, no, never.

sounds like you are taking silly classes

sooooo many times in high school and middle school.

I don't believe in grades... so I really don't have a problem with cheating. In college you can get in some serious business if you get caught, but I have nothing against cheating. Higher education is broken, so I encourage students to cut as many corners as possible. Don't buy books, parking passes or meal passes. Just get through the awful system.

they're just speed bumps. expensive speed bumps.

sucks, man

i am pretty glad that my classes are all technical these days

@bob_toeback: It really depends on the format of the exam.

For my law degree, all of our exams were open-book - we could bring in as much pre-prepared material as we liked, so memory wasn't really an issue - but all of the cramming in the world wouldn't really help you if you didn't intimately know the material or couldn't comprehensively apply them to the facts in a 3.5 hour timeframe. That sort of knowledge could take weeks to prepare for.

So...at least some exams test your knowledge, rather than your memory?

Cheating is super effective, but the recoil damage can be high.

eh

i wouldn't call it super effective unless it happens to trigger a recollection shit ton of information you forgot

That is also memory - albeit not necessarily the shit that'll be in books.

That's not true at all. Most engineering tests have nothing to do with memorization. They have to do with understanding of the material.

In a way - one of my mates was sick on an exam day at university so his twin brother took the seat next to me and after I finished mine I did his right handed and his brother turned that one in and the teacher did give him a second look but didnt say anything.

our handwriting was very similar anyway and using the wrong hand disguised it enough that nothing was said and we both got the grades we expected.

Not really cheating as we were neighbors and best mates since middle school and nearly always had identical test scores - we were tested in separate rooms once to verify that we didn't have a system going on.

it is simply that we studied together and he dated one of my sisters.

i remember in high school that basically my entire biology class felt that our teacher was unfair. most high school kids grumble about their teacher, but this one got a particular amount of angst directed at them. looking back on it, i don't think my cheating was justified. i still don't see the class as a good part of my education, but sometimes you just have to say "tough sh*t" and deal with it.

I'm not a fan of cheating. I prefer relying on my own work and studying to succeed in an exam.

Though back in high-school I had a Biology teacher who apparently was too "light-headed" or just didn't give a shit when students opened their books in the middle of a test. I realized the class was a joke so I said "fvck it" and during the exam opened my book as well and copied all the answers.

You are only cheating yourself by not learning what you should be learning in that class. It will hit you hard in later classes that require previous class knowledge. So it's up to you.

I cheated a few times in high school, and if you count "everybody in the class copying off one guys lab results" cheating, then I cheated in CEGEP too. I haven't cheated in university though. Honestly, I don't think there is anything morally wrong with cheating on exams, post secondary education is mostly a scam anyways, and it really only effects you. The only people who seem to care are the super nerds who become furious if anyone does better than them. If you can get away with it, go for it, I personally don't think its worth the risk though.