Has Anyone Here Been Exposed To Third-Hand Smoke?

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#1 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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We all heard about the dangers of second-hand smoke...now there is a new danger, according to experts: Third-Hand Smoke.

It's a term that doctors from MassGeneral Hospital for Children in Boston are using to describe the lingering smell that are left in some smoker's hair, clothing, cushions and carpeting. Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke. According to Dr. Philip Landrigan, a pediatrician in who heads the Children's Environmental Health Center at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York:

"The central message here is that simply closing the kitchen door to take a smoke is not protecting the kids from the effects of that smoke," he said. "There are carcinogens in this third-hand smoke, and they are a cancer risk for anybody of any age who comes into contact with them."

It just seems that smokers can't catch a break. I don't smoke myself, but I don't look down on people who do. What do you think--it this a ligimate danger, or is it another way to guilt-trip smokers into qutting for good?

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#2 Oleg_Huzwog
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Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke.Hallenbeck77

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

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#3 MrMC7992
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wooow. i think it might possibly have an effect but it's mostly just more propaganda to mess with people's heads. i don't smoke but like you said, i won't look down upon someone who does. the effects that "third-hand smoke" has on someone is probably no worse than breathing in the polluted air of our planet.
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#4 psn_Jaimzl
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This whole smoking thing is ridiculouse. I'm 17 i don't smoke but i have no problem with other people smoking just as long as its not in my face. If people want to smoke let them smoke.
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#5 xTheExploited
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It basically sounds like second-hand smoke from a longer distance.
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#6 JustPlainLucas
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I heard about this on the radio this morning. I actually think there's some truth about it. Ever wonder why cigar smoke lingers around so much? It's because it seeps into things and brings with it those harmful chemicals that endanger the smoker. I wouldn't a child of mine crawling on someone's carpet that has accumulated months and months of cigar smoke... :?
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#7 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke.Oleg_Huzwog

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

I'm not saying it's not true, It's just seems the whole idea of third-hand smoke sounds like a strech.
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#8 thirteen_zombie
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why cant they just let smokers smoke and leave them alone. What about second hand wrestling, like in chris benoits case, it killed his children too and you dont see articles coming out every year about how to stop that.
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#9 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke.Hallenbeck77

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

I'm not saying it's not true, It's just seems the whole idea of third-hand smoke sounds like a strech.

I think the concept is solid. If you're smelling it, you're breathing it. I just roll my eyes whenever I see the words "just as harmful as".

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#10 Bourbons3
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Yep, plenty of it.
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#11 markop2003
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It is as harmful in the same densities.... but that would mean having hundreds of cushions all bathed in smoke for hours, it's commen sense that the only way it could be as harmfull is if the object has been soaked iin the substance for huge amounts of time without cleaning.
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I wonder whether scientists ever get bored and make crap up in between their games of Boggle. It seems they do.
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#14 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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I heard about this on the radio this morning. I actually think there's some truth about it. Ever wonder why cigar smoke lingers around so much? It's because it seeps into things and brings with it those harmful chemicals that endanger the smoker. I wouldn't a child of mine crawling on someone's carpet that has accumulated months and months of cigar smoke... :?JustPlainLucas

That's just plain disgusting to have your rugs/clothing/carpets reek of smoke. All the people I know who smoke know enough to actually clean & shampoo your rugs and such on a regular basis, and they always go outside the house to light up. Not just step outside the front door, but walk torward the street & smoke there. I know not everyone makes the effort to do so.

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#15 MrGeezer
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Did the study find a single instance of anyone ever getting cancer because of "third hand smoke"?
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#16 Punjabiking101
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so any smoke is bad anyways
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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

Oleg_Huzwog

I'm not saying it's not true, It's just seems the whole idea of third-hand smoke sounds like a strech.

I think the concept is solid. If you're smelling it, you're breathing it. I just roll my eyes whenever I see the words "just as harmful as".

Yeah, while it may contain the same carcinogens, it's bound to have it in much lower quantities.
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#18 Virus214
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i call bs....
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#19 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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It's not the smell, it's the toxins. Cigarette smoke contains a large number of dangerous compounds in low qualities. These compounds get deposited in the local environment. Smoke enough and your house gets inudated with them. Makes sense.
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#20 Parandrus
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All it does is smell bad. It's too hard to believe that it's bad for you.
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#21 CoreyNT
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wooow. i think it might possibly have an effect but it's mostly just more propaganda to mess with people's heads. i don't smoke but like you said, i won't look down upon someone who does. the effects that "third-hand smoke" has on someone is probably no worse than breathing in the polluted air of our planet.MrMC7992
Tru dat
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If that was true, almost everyone on Earth would have cancer.
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#23 Mad_Banana
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I saw an X-files episode where this guy smoked cigarettes and the second hand smoke had beetle eggs in them and they would hatch in people who breathed the smoke :X
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#24 Curlyfrii87
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I have a lot of friends and co-workers that smoke ... so yes.
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I saw an X-files episode where this guy smoked cigarettes and the second hand smoke had beetle eggs in them and they would hatch in people who breathed the smoke :XMad_Banana
They even almost killed Mulder!
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#26 Whicker89
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4th hand smoke, the smoke that lingers around someone who want next to someone with 3rd hand smoke
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"I'm sorry, I can't shake your hand. Because I can smell that you've been smoking, and if I touch you I might get cancer."

"I'm sorry, You can't be here. Yes, I am aware that this is the DMV office and you are only here so that you can renew your license so that you can continue to drive to work in order to feed your hungry children. Unfortunately, you are a smoker. I can smell that you have smoked. So you can't be here, because you're giving everyone else cancer."

"Yes, I believe you when you say that you don't smoke. But you smell like you've been smoking. Maybe you once shook a smoker's hand, I don't know. But the point is, even though you have never smoked in your life, you smell like tobacco smoke TO ME. So you have to leave this restaurant right now, because you are giving everyone else cancer. Even though you are a nonsmoker who is militantly opposed to smoking."

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#28 Sajedene
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Dude... I reek of barbecue smoke... enjoy your 3rd hand dinner.
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#29 soulless4now
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I guess I've been exposed to it then.
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#30 one_on_one
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I probably have, every time I go into a friends car, it always smelled like cigarettes and no one smoked at the time.

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#31 -xPANICx-
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i wonder what fourth hand smoke will be...
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#32 Toriko42
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I've had enough of this second hand smoke crap..I don't care too much.
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#33 MrGeezer
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i wonder what fourth hand smoke will be...-xPANICx-

That'll be when looking at a smoker gives you cancer.

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[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]i wonder what fourth hand smoke will be...MrGeezer

That'll be when looking at a smoker gives you cancer.

It has already given me cataracts.
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i call bs.... Virus214
this ^ , hands down.
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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke.Oleg_Huzwog

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

I think secondhand IS more dangerous. As for thirdhand, that's seems fake and harmless.
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke.Me2nice

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

I think secondhand IS more dangerous.

More dangerous than what? Smoking?
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#38 ineedanap
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Third-hand smoke? Now I've heard everything.
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lulz I wonder how this would compare to say... driving on a freeway.
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[QUOTE="Me2nice"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Apparently, they're claiming it's just as harmful as second-hand smoke.Hallenbeck77

Such a claim seems every bit as far fetched as the bogus notion that second-hand smoke is every bit as harmful as first-hand.

I think secondhand IS more dangerous.

:lol: Firsthand smoke is more "dangerous" than secondhand smoke. I mean, seriously guys.
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#41 BiancaDK
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Those last 4 words seem borderline defeatist, jandurin? :P too much OT? lol
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Those last 4 words seem borderline defeatist, jandurin? :P too much OT? lolBiancaDK
The last 4 words are the most important :o
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#43 DigitalExile
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I live in a house with a smoker so I get second and "third" hand smoke.

I'm not dead, can't be too bad.

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Ugh, and I hang around with people that smoke. Great friends.. I just wish they didn't smoke. There nice enough to ask first at least and smoke away from me, but no matter how far they hang there head out the window while we drive the smoke still gets to me :(.
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Those last 4 words seem borderline defeatist, jandurin? :P too much OT? lolJandurin
The last 4 words are the most important :o

lol so true x) which is a tragedy wrapped up in a travesty. There seem to be alot of those around in here :)
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Those last 4 words seem borderline defeatist, jandurin? :P too much OT? lolBiancaDK
The last 4 words are the most important :o

lol so true x) which is a tragedy wrapped up in a travesty. There seem to be alot of those around in here :)

Hmmm... paradoxical enigmas writing tragedies wrapped up in travesties? >_> *Jandurin just took it too far* :o
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Atleast you know you took it too far. Saving me the breath of pointing it out to you. Problem is i like pointing out stuff for people, even if they themselves have pointed it out beforehand and even on numerous occations. So refrain from retrospection, Jandurin! im gonna stop trying to decypher what exactly you actually wrote and the meaning hereof, my eyes are watering reading it.
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Atleast you know you took it too far. Saving me the breath of pointing it out to you. Problem is i like pointing out stuff for people, even if they themselves have pointed it out beforehand and even on numerous occations. So refrain from retrospection, Jandurin! im gonna stop trying to decypher what exactly you actually wrote and the meaning hereof, my eyes are watering reading it.BiancaDK
Speaking of pointing things out, I technically wouldn't have saved you any breath because you don't use your vocal cords to type... unless you say what you type aloud whilst typing. :lol: >_> :P :D
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Atleast you know you took it too far. Saving me the breath of pointing it out to you. Problem is i like pointing out stuff for people, even if they themselves have pointed it out beforehand and even on numerous occations. So refrain from retrospection, Jandurin! im gonna stop trying to decypher what exactly you actually wrote and the meaning hereof, my eyes are watering reading it.Jandurin
Speaking of pointing things out, I technically wouldn't have saved you any breath because you don't use your vocal cords to type... unless you say what you type aloud whilst typing. :lol: >_> :P :D

... for the sake of arguement, yes, i do vocalize my GS comments as i write them word for word. A-hah!
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Atleast you know you took it too far. Saving me the breath of pointing it out to you. Problem is i like pointing out stuff for people, even if they themselves have pointed it out beforehand and even on numerous occations. So refrain from retrospection, Jandurin! im gonna stop trying to decypher what exactly you actually wrote and the meaning hereof, my eyes are watering reading it.BiancaDK
Speaking of pointing things out, I technically wouldn't have saved you any breath because you don't use your vocal cords to type... unless you say what you type aloud whilst typing. :lol: >_> :P :D

... for the sake of arguement, yes, i do vocalize my GS comments as i write them word for word. A-hah!

Hahahahaha. You win this round, Bianca :x