Gun Control, Yay or Nay?

I'm from the U.K so we have laws that prevent the carrying or owning of a weapon. I havn't seen this really discussed before much on the OT forums and I'd just like to hear whether the majority of you guys from the U.S agree with the second amendment or disagree and why...

Discuss...

Nay, It's unconstitutional, and leaves us defenseless from criminals with black market guns.

Yes, I believe that responsible people should be able to have guns so that we can protect ourselves from the criminals who already have them

I'm from the U.K so we have laws that prevent the carrying or owning of a weapon. I havn't seen this really discussed before much on the OT forums and I'd just like to hear whether the majority of you guys from the U.S agree with the second amendment or disagree and why...

Discuss...

tomo90

Well, there obviously going to be limits to any right. That being said, I strongly support the right to bear arms. Gun control. hmmmm. I guess some controls are necessary, others are just pointless infringements. Keeping guns away from mentally unstable people seems like a must. Where I constantly end up debating with myself, is whether or not automatic weapons should be illegal or not.

I fully support the right to arm bears...

seeing how most criminals have them why should they have an edge?

no way

The only guns I support people having are rifles and shotguns both are useful for hunting while all others are made to kill people so there is no reason for them to be in the possession ofcivilian.

The only guns I support people having are rifles and shotguns both are useful for hunting while all others are made to kill people so there is no reason for them to be in the possession ofcivilian.

Communist_Soul

"If we didn't have guns around here, then the king of england could come in here and start pushing you around....is that what you want? IS IT?"

+10 points to whoever gets that reference

Yeah, I'm kind of for it but it won't stop criminals from acquiring guns since the illegal gun market in America is one of the biggest in the world next to that of African nationsToriko42

"If we didn't have guns around here, then the king of england could come in here and start pushing you around....is that what you want? IS IT?"

+10 points to whoever gets that reference

Anarchy4hire82

"If we didn't have guns around here, then the king of england could come in here and start pushing you around....is that what you want? IS IT?"

+10 points to whoever gets that reference

Anarchy4hire82

I fully support our constitutional right to bear arms.

Nay. Gun control doesn't work and has a terrible history. I'm surprised to why people even support such a policy when it doesn't work at all.

Nay. Gun control doesn't work and has a terrible history. I'm surprised to why people even support such a policy when it doesn't work at all.

leviathan91

Yay.

Without gun control, you'd shoot like a pu ssy (hey, have you ever seen a cat shoot a gun?) and hit the innocent person instead of the guy robbing Mcdonalds.

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

The only guns I support people having are rifles and shotguns both are useful for hunting while all others are made to kill people so there is no reason for them to be in the possession ofcivilian.

GrandJury

So a shotgun can't protect them?

[QUOTE="GrandJury"]

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

The only guns I support people having are rifles and shotguns both are useful for hunting while all others are made to kill people so there is no reason for them to be in the possession ofcivilian.

Communist_Soul

So a shotgun can't protect them?

Rocket launchers are different though. :(

Yes, I dont get alot of the people against it. Gun Control = certain guns are a no( Conceilable pistols, automatic weapons,etc) and harder for bad people to get. It does not mean banning all guns. If you are a Good, law abiding citizen and follow the rules and procedures then your going to get your guns, it may take alittle more to get them like a longer waiting period or more things you have to go through to get a license, but your gonna get them.

Im for Gun Control, Im fine with Rifles and Shotguns they have many applications, Hunting, sport, recreation, defense. The majority of the people I have seen **** about it are people who want to have unrestricted, unlimited access to pistols and automatic weapons. The common citizen doesnt need automatic weapons or small weapons that can be hidden. People love to bring up the second amendment. that, like most of the amendments. are Outdated and meant for a differernt world. at teh time it was drafted, there were no permenant standing armies( that wouldnt happen until Nepolean and the rise of Nationalism) just personal defense and Militia( armies werent raised until needed) In the modern world we have national Police forces and a very powerful military that protect us.

less guns, less criminality and it works how u can see it in eu strong laws and friendly culture, 0 deads example japan bad laws, high rate of criminality and a lot of deads good example usa =>eu laws are great, they save a lot of lifes NLahren

Nay, It's unconstitutional, and leaves us defenseless from criminals with black market guns.

megahaloman64

Yes, I dont get alot of the people against it. Gun Control = certain guns are a no( Conceilable pistols, automatic weapons,etc) and harder for bad people to get. It does not mean banning all guns. If you are a Good, law abiding citizen and follow the rules and procedures then your going to get your guns, it may take alittle more to get them like a longer waiting period or more things you have to go through to get a license, but your gonna get them.

Im for Gun Control, Im fine with Rifles and Shotguns they have many applications, Hunting, sport, recreation, defense. The majority of the people I have seen **** about it are people who want to have unrestricted, unlimited access to pistols and automatic weapons. The common citizen doesnt need automatic weapons or small weapons that can be hidden. People love to bring up the second amendment. that, like most of the amendments. are Outdated and meant for a differernt world. at teh time it was drafted, there were no permenant standing armies( that wouldnt happen until Nepolean and the rise of Nationalism) just personal defense and Militia( armies werent raised until needed) In the modern world we have national Police forces and a very powerful military that protect us.

SamusFreak

I'm for stricter gun regulations and laws.

However, the banning of guns in the U.S. seems impractical and unachievable, and thus I don't see the point in it.

Nay, It's unconstitutional, and leaves us defenseless from criminals with black market guns.

megahaloman64

I fully support the right to arm bears...

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

Yes, I dont get alot of the people against it. Gun Control = certain guns are a no( Conceilable pistols, automatic weapons,etc) and harder for bad people to get. It does not mean banning all guns. If you are a Good, law abiding citizen and follow the rules and procedures then your going to get your guns, it may take alittle more to get them like a longer waiting period or more things you have to go through to get a license, but your gonna get them.

Im for Gun Control, Im fine with Rifles and Shotguns they have many applications, Hunting, sport, recreation, defense. The majority of the people I have seen **** about it are people who want to have unrestricted, unlimited access to pistols and automatic weapons. The common citizen doesnt need automatic weapons or small weapons that can be hidden. People love to bring up the second amendment. that, like most of the amendments. are Outdated and meant for a differernt world. at teh time it was drafted, there were no permenant standing armies( that wouldnt happen until Nepolean and the rise of Nationalism) just personal defense and Militia( armies werent raised until needed) In the modern world we have national Police forces and a very powerful military that protect us.

wiistation36000

Nay to gun restrictions on law abiding citizens. Criminals don't care if a gun is banned or not (that makes them Criminals).

Look at a comparison of states.

Strict states: California, Illinois (Chicago), New York.

Lenient States: Alaska, Vermont, Kentucky (my home sweet home).

High crime states: California, Illinois, and New York.

Low crime states: Alaska, Vermont, Kentucky. My county's (odds are a house hold is armed) has a murder rate of 0.

Go figure. Guns are just tools, and tools can't murder.

nay, i disagree with the second agreement

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="GrandJury"]Protection? Civilians own guns for protection.

wiistation36000

So a shotgun can't protect them?

Rocket launchers are different though. :(

Most guns have been made for killing people.

Nay to gun restrictions on law abiding citizens. Criminals don't care if a gun is banned or not (that makes them Criminals).

Look at a comparison of states.

Strict states: California, Illinois (Chicago), New York.

Lenient States: Alaska, Vermont, Kentucky (my home sweet home).

High crime states: California, Illinois, and New York.

Low crime states: Alaska, Vermont, Kentucky. My county's (odds are a house hold is armed) has a murder rate of 0.

Go figure. Guns are just tools, and tools can't murder.

dercoo

[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

Yes, I dont get alot of the people against it. Gun Control = certain guns are a no( Conceilable pistols, automatic weapons,etc) and harder for bad people to get. It does not mean banning all guns. If you are a Good, law abiding citizen and follow the rules and procedures then your going to get your guns, it may take alittle more to get them like a longer waiting period or more things you have to go through to get a license, but your gonna get them.

Im for Gun Control, Im fine with Rifles and Shotguns they have many applications, Hunting, sport, recreation, defense. The majority of the people I have seen **** about it are people who want to have unrestricted, unlimited access to pistols and automatic weapons. The common citizen doesnt need automatic weapons or small weapons that can be hidden. People love to bring up the second amendment. that, like most of the amendments. are Outdated and meant for a differernt world. at teh time it was drafted, there were no permenant standing armies( that wouldnt happen until Nepolean and the rise of Nationalism) just personal defense and Militia( armies werent raised until needed) In the modern world we have national Police forces and a very powerful military that protect us.

shussub

Did you read any part of that quote besides "guns" and "tyranny"

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Nay to gun restrictions on law abiding citizens. Criminals don't care if a gun is banned or not (that makes them Criminals).

Look at a comparison of states.

Strict states: California, Illinois (Chicago), New York.

Lenient States: Alaska, Vermont, Kentucky (my home sweet home).

High crime states: California, Illinois, and New York.

Low crime states: Alaska, Vermont, Kentucky. My county's (odds are a house hold is armed) has a murder rate of 0.

Go figure. Guns are just tools, and tools can't murder.

[QUOTE="shussub"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] Don't you think the 2nd amendment was written so that people could also defend themselves from the government incase it became tyrranical? "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -Thomas Jefferson I think he hit it right on the nail.wiistation36000

Did you read any part of that quote besides "guns" and "tyranny"

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shussub

[QUOTE="shussub"] Oh, gawd.. Why does every gun control debate involve the comparison of nukes to guns? :roll:wiistation36000

[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="shussub"] Both are tools.sSubZerOo