Facebook's Randi Zuckerberg: Anonymity Online 'Has To Go Away'

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#1 games5522
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/randi-zuckerberg-anonymity-online_n_910892.html

Zuckerberg, who is Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg's sister, argued that putting an end to anonymity online could help curb bullying and harassment on the web.

"I think anonymity on the Internet has to go away," she said during a panel discussion on social media hosted Tuesday evening byMarie Clairemagazine. "People behave a lot better when they have their real names down. … I think people hide behind anonymity and they feel like they can say whatever they want behind closed doors."

Former Google CEO Eric Schmidthas also made this suggestion, calling online anonymity "dangerous" and predicting that governments will eventually "demand" that people use their names for all online activity.Huffington Post

I, personally, do not like the idea of this at all. Things that force someone to attach their real name to their opinions tend to restrict free discussion.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/randi-zuckerberg-anonymity-online_n_910892.html

I, personally, do not like the idea of this at all. Things that force someone to attach their real name to their opinions tend to restrict free discussion.

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I agree. Anonymity is crucial to free speech.

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#3 JML897
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Of course someone with strong ties to Facebook would be saying this.
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#4 Zeviander
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Or people could just stop taking everything on the internet as super-serious.
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#5 games5522
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What's funny is that most of the people who carry out this cyberbullying are teenage girls who generally use facebook to do so.

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#6 scorch-62
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Of course someone with strong ties to Facebook would be saying this. JML897
I came to say something like that, haha. Facebook is notorious for privacy issues, so it really isn't that surprising to hear from someone who works there.
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#7 branketra
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Considering his stake in Facebook, this seems a little biased. The way I see it, there are places that are anonymous and there are places that aren't. I prefer to keep it that way.
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#8 hadoken
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if it happened at least it would stop the psychopaths on the internet who threaten people, there are a lot of crazy people on youtube.
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#9 games5522
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if it happened at least it would stop the psychopaths on the internet who threaten people, there are a lot of crazy people on youtube.hadoken
If they were really psychopaths they wouldn't care. This would just make it easier for them to find their targets.
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#10 Ace6301
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What a silly thing to say. Anonymity just makes it so insults don't really do anything. At all. It's when you get actual names, affiliations and connections involved that the internet suddenly becomes something dangerous. The more anonymous you are on the internet the better.
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#11 Nibroc420
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Wow While we're at it, lets install cameras watching everywhere, so nothing is private. People need to stfu and suck it up. If some random on the internet goes "You're dumb", there's nothing to be offended at. You dont know who the person is, and they probbably dont know you..And if someone says something offensive VIA facebook, well, you'll know their name...
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#12 kuraimen
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I would rather see Facebook go away than anonymity.
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#13 akdiuuuryttt
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wow not at all what a dumb idiot

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#15 Nibroc420
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I hope Anonymous attacks Facebook for their ignorant assertions.
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#16 games5522
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I hope Anonymous attacks Facebook for their ignorant assertions.Nibroc420
If they did so the folks from Facebook would push harder for this sort of legislation.
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#17 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]I hope Anonymous attacks Facebook for their ignorant assertions.games5522
If they did so the folks from Facebook would push harder for this sort of legislation.

No-one takes Facebook seriously.
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[QUOTE="games5522"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]I hope Anonymous attacks Facebook for their ignorant assertions.Nibroc420
If they did so the folks from Facebook would push harder for this sort of legislation.

No-one takes Facebook seriously.

In the minds of the geriatric lawmakers in Washington it's the only tube they know the name of.
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#19 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="games5522"] If they did so the folks from Facebook would push harder for this sort of legislation.

No-one takes Facebook seriously.

In the minds of the geriatric lawmakers in Washington it's the only tube they know the name of.

Sigh. When will the intelligent people be the ones making laws? Currently it's just a bunch of idiots who know nothing about anything.
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#20 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Sigh. When will the intelligent people be the ones making laws? Currently it's just a bunch of idiots who know nothing about anything.

Intelligent people will be the ones making laws when intelligent people start voting. Or perhaps just when the stupid ones stop.
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#21 PernicioEnigma
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Having no anonymity on the web will cause a lot more problems then it'll solve. There's already things you can do to avoid "cyberbullying", and if worse comes to worst you can just stop using social networking altogether. I think the real reason they're against anonymity is because it can give the average person the power to do things they never could if their identity was known.
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#22 junglist101
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I hope Anonymous attacks Facebook for their ignorant assertions.Nibroc420
I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure if this turned out to be anything more than a ridiculus statement they would.

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#23 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Or people could just stop taking everything on the internet as super-serious.

Agreed. :D
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#24 -PureDemon-
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Dammit, there goes my relentless trolling, now everything will have my real name attached to it.

/sarcasm

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#25 lloveLamp
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well. they are going to have to force me if they want that. and at that point i would never say anything online
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#26 MissLibrarian
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I think she's confusing lack of anonymity with an artificial sense of community.

Even if the internet had either of these things bullies would still exist. Thankfully.

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#27 deactivated-5cacc9e03b460
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What a silly thing to say. Anonymity just makes it so insults don't really do anything. At all. It's when you get actual names, affiliations and connections involved that the internet suddenly becomes something dangerous. The more anonymous you are on the internet the better.Ace6301
I agree with this. Having your real information out there opens the doors for some serious stalking and makes the internet much more dangerous. It's common sense people... Also, people need to get thicker skin, seriously who cares about being insulted in real life let alone over the internet by someone who's probably living in his mothers basement...

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[QUOTE="games5522"]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/randi-zuckerberg-anonymity-online_n_910892.html

I, personally, do not like the idea of this at all. Things that force someone to attach their real name to their opinions tend to restrict free discussion.

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I agree. Anonymity is crucial to free speech.

If that's true, then it's not really Free Speech now, is it?

The idea of free speech is being able to OPENLY speak your mind without fear of retribution.

If you have to hide behind an IP address to speak your mind, it's not free speech.

(Not saying we need to get rid of anonyminity, just saying that Free Speech should not be dependent on it.)

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#29 Rattlesnake_8
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I remember long ago with these forums.. they were just ZDNet forums and as your username you were required to use your first and last name which would be displayed. It actually kept the community close. We had no mods to keep the trolls away, we did that ourselves with posting witty replies. I don't think its a good idea that everyone has their name attacked.. there are enough sick and twisted people out there already that do the wrong thing. It would just lead to more of it happening. And as said.. free speech. While you still can be tracked down, people do feel safer about speaking their mind when no one knows who they are.
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#30 weezyfb
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no way. anon is what makes this interesting
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#31 Planet_Pluto
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I think the only place where being anonymous needs to be preserved is government websites (for questions, complaints, whistle-blowing, etc). I don't think people who challenge the government should have it in the back of their mind that they can be persecuted. For all other places, I'd say it's up to the company running the site.

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#32 weezyfb
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="games5522"]

I, personally, do not like the idea of this at all. Things that force someone to attach their real name to their opinions tend to restrict free discussion.

Netherscourge

I agree. Anonymity is crucial to free speech.

If that's true, then it's not really Free Speech now, is it?

The idea of free speech is being able to OPENLY speak your mind without fear of retribution.

If you have to hide behind an IP address to speak your mind, it's not free speech.

(Not saying we need to get rid of anonyminity, just saying that Free Speech should not be dependent on it.)

it does, same reason why voting is anonymous. Its about being able to say what you want without fear of reprisal, look at countries like china... anyone posting anything anti government would be rounded up if they signed their name. In the past people used to have to get on a podium and yell out who they were voting for and they were subject to attacks reprisals from others or the gov

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#33 DigitalExile
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Cyber bullying only happens because people go back to their computers. Online allows you to strictly select who and when you communicate.

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#34 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Given facebook's lack of privacy features, I'd say she and her brother are putting forth their best effort.

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#36 Wolls
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Internet anonymity allows for a community completely different to anything out in the real world and for that I love it. Just because some people cannot handle a few insults doesn't mean it is a bad thing
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#37 XileLord
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Anonymity also allows for no consequence's to your actions. I'm under the belief that true Anonymity doesn't really exist on the Internet; if it did people wouldn't receive emails from their ISP's telling them to stop illegal downloading and the police wouldn't show up at somebodies house for looking at child pornography. If all Anonymity went away you wouldn't see as much trash and garbage on the internet as people would be less quick to act out of line when their personal image is on the line.

That being said it also has it's disadvantages to.

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#38 Scoob64
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Blah. i don't care for that notion. The internet would be boring if there was no anonymity.

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#39 mrbojangles25
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funny how I can say just about anything I want in public (where it has real impact) and still keep my name private, but the second I go online the entire world would know my name and, if Bookface has anything to do with it, my appearance and relationship status.

This is entirely bogus.

Privacy is one of the few luxuries that is A.) free, and B.) we humans have control over, but in this modern world it is disappearing at an alarming rate. The only two places I feel I have true privacy is when I go to take a crap or shower, or when I am in my room alone. THe latter is soon to disappear.

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#40 Scoob64
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funny how I can say just about anything I want in public (where it has real impact) and still keep my name private, but the second I go online the entire world would know my name and, if Bookface has anything to do with it, my appearance and relationship status.

This is entirely bogus.

Privacy is one of the few luxuries that is A.) free, and B.) we humans have control over, but in this modern world it is disappearing at an alarming rate. The only two places I feel I have true privacy is when I go to take a crap or shower, or when I am in my room alone. THe latter is soon to disappear.

mrbojangles25

yup, they need to just get it over with and stick a computer chip in us so they can monitor our every move... heh, its getting to that point. i aint gonna do it i tell ya.

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#41 Kvothe_Stark
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I love the irony of somebody from Facebook saying that internet anonymity has gone too far...

That being said, this reminds me of when Blizzard Entertainment wanted to implement RealID onto their forums (I'm pretty sure it had something to do with a partnership with Facebook come to think of it...), which basically would display posters' names next to their avatars. The Community Managers went on and on about how just knowing somebody's name wouldn't jeopardize them. After all, it's only a name. So one of the posters dared a Community Manager to post his first and last name. He did so and within ten minutes, that poster had his name, address, phone number, marital status, and basically all his personal information. The concept of RealID never went through due to the massive negative backlash, and for good reason.

People will be jerks online with or without their names displayed. The only thing real names will allow is ease of stalking and harrasment for people who before could only tell you to kill yourself.

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#42 cybrcatter
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My IRL trolling is far more potent than it is online.
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#43 001011000101101
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When is this facebook fad going to die?
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#44 Blue-Sky
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While I agree anonymity can lead to trolling, there's also a level of Honesty you won't get from meeting the real person.

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#45 SolidSnake35
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If you're being bullied online, you might do well to turn off the computer.
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#46 Swanogt19
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Totally against this. Avoid the website that you are being bullied on. That simple.

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#47 soulless4now
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I would rather see Facebook go away than anonymity.kuraimen
Agreed. I see bullying as only increasing if everyone were to use their actual names. Cyber stalkers would just follow people to another site and harass them there.
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#48 markop2003
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Using real names is a great idea in a utopia. However the world is full of idiots and identity theft and the government is far too nosey. If Google ran the world then i'ld be quite happy, they may keep tabs on everyone but as far as i'm aware they've never actually done anything bad with the information.
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#49 markop2003
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I would rather see Facebook go away than anonymity.soulless4now
Agreed. I see bullying as only increasing if everyone were to use their actual names. Cyber stalkers would just follow people to another site and harass them there.

Not just cyber stalkers but real stalkers too. If a kid is currently getting bullied at school their internet handle is usually unknown so they can't be tracked to any site which does not insist on real names.
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#50 branketra
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If you're being bullied online, you might do well to turn off the computer.SolidSnake35
I disagree. That's basically running away.