Do you think religion is just simply outdated?

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#1 LiquidAjax
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All religions have great core values and I think the delivery is just a little outdated. A lot of these things were designed hundreds or thousands of years ago when the world was a lot larger than it is now. What do you think OT? Do you think if we modernized religion it would have a better impact?
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#2 TrainerCeleste
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Another OT shi-storm thread I see :P

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#3 Fightingfan
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When on person has an imaginary friend they're crazy. When multiple people have the same imaginary friend it's religion.
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#4 chessmaster1989
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Well this thread is going to end well.
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#5 ScorpionTroll
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"Modernize" religion? I'm not sure I understand.

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#6 BossPerson
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Yea, bronze age customs and belief are totally not outdated...

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#7 LiquidAjax
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"Modernize" religion? I'm not sure I understand.

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make it new
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#8 KiIIyou
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Make one based around Star Trek or something.
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Make one based around Star Trek or something. KiIIyou

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#11 ScorpionTroll
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[QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"]

"Modernize" religion? I'm not sure I understand.

LiquidAjax

make it new

And how does one make a belief new?

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#12 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"]

"Modernize" religion? I'm not sure I understand.

ScorpionTroll

make it new

And how does one make a belief new?

modernize it to reflect it's environment and cultural relevance.
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Make one based around Star Trek or something. wis3boi

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I wanna go there!
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#14 BenedictArnold7
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Religion makes perfect senses no matter how you look at it. It stands the test of time. It is logical, supported by scientific evidence and nothing bad has ever come from it.
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#15 LJS9502_basic
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I think people in OT worry way too much about what other people believe and why.
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#16 surrealnumber5
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less so than the faith in rulers caring about the surfs.
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#17 The__Kraken
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The religious authority are actively modernizing religion, generally by ignoring certain parts of their scripture, cherry-picking and what not. In addition, others, such as the Catholic church, reverse their stance on issues (such as on astronomy).

To see modernization, just look at Christians in general. Modern Christians are nothing like the Christians during the time when Charlemagne was showing Jesus-like love and compassion to the pagans. Hell, modern Christians have very little in common with the original cult (aka: original followers of that Jesus dude).

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#18 ScorpionTroll
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I think people in OT worry way too much about what other people believe and why.LJS9502_basic
I couldn't agree more.

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Religion makes perfect senses no matter how you look at it. It stands the test of time. It is logical, supported by scientific evidence and nothing bad has ever come from it. BenedictArnold7
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Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

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#21 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Naw, Scientology is pretty cosmopolitan.

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Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

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#23 Chickity_China
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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

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disagree

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Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

Chickity_China

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#25 Stinger78
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Make one based around Star Trek or something. KiIIyou
That's called "Scientology".
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#26 Stinger78
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[QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] make it newLiquidAjax

And how does one make a belief new?

modernize it to reflect it's environment and cultural relevance.

Humanism kinda does that. "Believe in yourself".
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#27 theone86
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In some respects. In others, I think they took a wrong turn or even started out on false premises.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I think people in OT worry way too much about what other people believe and why.ScorpionTroll

I couldn't agree more.

People who think that the beliefs of other people are nothing to worry about, concerns me even more.

People vote, raise children and share society together. Their beliefs affect politics, economics, science research, education and communities. Damn right I care.

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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

wis3boi

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Good, practice your stop drop and roll cuz you'll be burning in hell.

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

Chickity_China

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Good, practice your stop drop and roll cuz you'll be burning in hell.

how cute, try harder

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I think people in OT worry way too much about what other people believe and why.Blue-Sky

I couldn't agree more.

People who think that the beliefs of other people are nothing to worry about, concerns me even more.

People vote, raise children and share society together. Their beliefs affect politics, economics, science research, education and communities. Damn right I care.

I'll make a note of that and be sure never to put an atheist in a position of power....
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

Chickity_China

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Good, practice your stop drop and roll cuz you'll be burning in hell.

No judging allowed.
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#33 Masculus
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I think the general tendency is of two different social phenomenons that are currently in motion on modern societies.

One pushes the practice of a faith or worship as an subject of individual privacy and out of the space of someones community.The other one in radical contradiction with the latter tendency is the elimination of peoples privacy in a increasigly more powerful culture of sharing one's self information and habits with the general public.

As you can see those two movements put together, eliminate to some degree from modern societies the social spaces on wich someone can practice any cult or faith. Therefore it gives rises to such ideologies as sometimes it is heard for example in northern Europe people saying 'that Christianism is immoral'.

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#34 FF3snes
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Religion in my opinion is the only reason humanity survived the 3 plagues in the middle ages.

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#35 ScorpionTroll
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[QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I think people in OT worry way too much about what other people believe and why.Blue-Sky

I couldn't agree more.

People who think that the beliefs of other people are nothing to worry about, concerns me even more.

People vote, raise children and share society together. Their beliefs affect politics, economics, science research, education and communities. Damn right I care.

Good luck getting people to change the way they think. I've tried everyone from religious zealots to commie atheists and got no where. They have a right exist, and as long as they're legal citizens of the US, they have the right to vote.

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#36 The__Kraken
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...more ignorant than the hardcore extremistswho believe ... everyone else is going to hell.

Chickity_China

Good, practice your stop drop and roll cuz you'll be burning in hell.

Chickity_China

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#37 Zelda99
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Religion has been around since almost the dawn of civilization. Sure the main religions we have today had their start in the last 2000-3000 years, but there was religion before Christ and Muhammad. To modernize religion is like to modernize animal husbandry or agriculture; it cant be done because it is not specific to a time as it is to the human race. In a thousand years there will still be animal husbandry and agriculture as well as religion. Its ideas may change, the way we go about it may change, but as long as there are humans, there will be religion. Its not something that goes out of style, becomes obsolete, or fades away like a fad.thats why you cant modernize it.

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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

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wis3boi

Good, practice your stop drop and roll cuz you'll be burning in hell.

how cute, try harder

Calm down, cry harder.

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#39 Chickity_China
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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

...more ignorant than the hardcore extremistswho believe ... everyone else is going to hell.

The__Kraken

Good, practice your stop drop and roll cuz you'll be burning in hell.

Chickity_China

Relax it was a joke.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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Ugh this thread is like stepping into a middle school.
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#41 undergroundLPx
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Religion is a tradition, it will be recognized as such and nothing more at some point during the 23rd century if I recall correctly.
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#42 curono
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Religion will never be outdated. It is something that gives moral values and gives you an uncorruptible strength (God) and some kind of faith of something beyond our life. Wether you believe in it or not, what it gives, is timeless.
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It is something that gives moral valuescurono

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#44 BuryMe
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"Modernize" religion? I'm not sure I understand.

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This argument has been made since the Enlightenment first began and religion hasn't gone anywhere.
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#46 curono
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[QUOTE="curono"]It is something that gives moral valueswis3boi

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Don't kill, love thy neightbor as you love thyself, don't lie, work hard, have faith.... Those are morals. Them from an uncanny and for all purposes fake stories (just like fables), is irrelevant. It brings through metaphors or tradition or _____________(place your favorite phrase) to a LARGE group of people moral bases and faith. I am atheist, but only a fool would deny this. You agreeing with these morals is different. But religion DOES bring morality and the way it does it, is timeless.
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Religion was created to explain the mysteries of the universe and assuage the fear of death. Since the concept of religion was first formed, science has made great strides in solving these mysteries but the fear of one's own mortality still remains. I believe as long as that fear exists so will religion.

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[QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] make it newLiquidAjax

And how does one make a belief new?

modernize it to reflect it's environment and cultural relevance.

you mean change the dogma. yeah...no..that wouldnt end well, I dont if you are atheist (I think you are) but believers certainly have a problem with someone changing stuff.
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="ScorpionTroll"] And how does one make a belief new?lightleggy
modernize it to reflect it's environment and cultural relevance.

you mean change the dogma. yeah...no..that wouldnt end well, I dont if you are atheist (I think you are) but believers certainly have a problem with someone changing stuff.

Beliefs can and have been changed to reflect modern views. The Christian Bible states the Earth is flat and people should be killed if they commit adultery, but you'll find the majority of Christians no longer believe such things.
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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

Religion only appears to be outdated to the narrowminded and ignorant imo. What all religions really are are just cultural interpretations of one universal God. They share similar core values, but the way their worship God varies due to different cultural influences.

People who see religion as nothing more than a bunch of fanatics paying homage to a make believe diety are even more ignorant than the hardcore extremists who believe their religion is the only correct one and everyone else is going to hell.

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I laughed so hard at that ROLF and agree with you.