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I do, better college = better career1337_ownage
Back in the day that was the case - now more people are getting college degrees and the name of the school doesnt bear as much weight unless you're talking about your masters.
Lets face it - what would look better - art major from Stanford or Business law major from so and so
I just want a good education. When it comes to programming, it's more about what you know and how you can apply it than the fancy college you attended.DeeJayInphinity
But wouldn't employers be more likely to give you an interview if you went to a prestigious institution?
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]I just want a good education. When it comes to programming, it's more about what you know and how you can apply it than the fancy college you attended.Aznsilvrboy
But wouldn't employers be more likely to give you an interview if you went to a prestigious institution?
Sure, but if you have the skill, you wont have any trouble finding a job.[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]I just want a good education. When it comes to programming, it's more about what you know and how you can apply it than the fancy college you attended.DeeJayInphinity
But wouldn't employers be more likely to give you an interview if you went to a prestigious institution?
Sure, but if you have the skill, you wont have any trouble finding a job.Yes I completely agree. It's just that an employer is certainly going to choose lets say...a MIT graduate in engineering over some other person with the same degree from some random school during the hiring process.
Sure, but if you have the skill, you wont have any trouble finding a job.
Still, at the end of the day, it comes down to skill. Do employers keep crappy employees just because they went to a nice school?DeeJayInphinity
Unfortunately in the real word, I have no idea what your skills are, except what you write down on paper. The school will get your foot in the door because I know Harvard teaches excellence.
[QUOTE="1337_ownage"]I do, better college = better careerSajedene
Back in the day that was the case - now more people are getting college degrees and the name of the school doesnt bear as much weight unless you're talking about your masters.
Lets face it - what would look better - art major from Stanford or Business law major from so and so
Well the degree certainly matters, so a business degree from stanford would be better than a business degrree from *insert community college*
not necessarily prestigious, i just want a university with a good program for undergraduate sciences. i recently accepted my offer to McGill University in Montreal, Quebec which I feel has a good science program.japa28
What was your average in HS? I read/heard that McGill admission averages are the highest in Canada (90%+).
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Sure, but if you have the skill, you wont have any trouble finding a job.
Still, at the end of the day, it comes down to skill. Do employers keep crappy employees just because they went to a nice school?LukeAF24
Unfortunately in the real word, I have no idea what your skills are, except what you write down on paper. The school will get your foot in the door because I know Harvard teaches excellence.
Hmm yup I guess it does make a big difference. It's also likely that a person who comes from a prestigious university will start with a higher salary, right?It matters to me a lot. My dream school was Stanford University. My dad went there, and so I had a lot of pressure to get in there as well. Unfortunately, I didn't get in, so instead I go to UC Berkeley. Don't get me wrong, CAL is a top #20 school, but I had my heart set on Stanford. It took a while, but now I'm not so dead set on Stanford anymore for MED school at least. I'd be grateful just to get in anywhere since the competition is out of this world now. I have learned, however, even if you end up going to the Carribean, you still have a shot at becoming a wealthy doctor when you transfer back over to the US. So yeah your grad school doesn't determine everything if you go into medicine, but it certainly would help to go to a top ranked one. Renegade_Fury
UC Berkely is a great school, my uncle went there. Good luck on getting into med school.
I don't care. I'm looking to go to the military after college, so it doesn't really matter what university/college I graduate fromColbert_Nation
Do you even need to go to college to be in the military...?
[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]It matters to me a lot. My dream school was Stanford University. My dad went there, and so I had a lot of pressure to get in there as well. Unfortunately, I didn't get in, so instead I go to UC Berkeley. Don't get me wrong, CAL is a top #20 school, but I had my heart set on Stanford. It took a while, but now I'm not so dead set on Stanford anymore for MED school at least. I'd be grateful just to get in anywhere since the competition is out of this world now. I have learned, however, even if you end up going to the Carribean, you still have a shot at becoming a wealthy doctor when you transfer back over to the US. So yeah your grad school doesn't determine everything if you go into medicine, but it certainly would help to go to a top ranked one. Aznsilvrboy
UC Berkely is a great school, my uncle went there. Good luck on getting into med school.
Thanks, I apprecitate it. It seems now you pretty much need at least a 3.8 GPA (let alone your science GPA) and a near perfect MCAT score to get in anywhere prestigous now. Not only that, but if you have never done any research, followed a doctor, and have not done any community service on top of it, schools might not even look at you.
[QUOTE="Colbert_Nation"]I don't care. I'm looking to go to the military after college, so it doesn't really matter what university/college I graduate fromAznsilvrboy
Do you even need to go to college to be in the military...?
No, but I want to go in as an officer.
[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"][QUOTE="Colbert_Nation"]I don't care. I'm looking to go to the military after college, so it doesn't really matter what university/college I graduate fromColbert_Nation
Do you even need to go to college to be in the military...?
No, but I want to go in as an officer.
ROTC? What branch? I start in 2 months - Army.Simply put, No. Less than 20 percent of Americans (believe it or not) have a bachelors degree, so in the grand scheme of things it's not where you go that matters, but what you make of it. I didn't apply to any "prestigious" colleges mainly because most of the people who go to those institutions are so smug and full of themselves that it makes me sick. specialedpal
65% of Americans are also 0-21 or 55+. That's a flawed statistic.
[QUOTE="specialedpal"]Simply put, No. Less than 20 percent of Americans (believe it or not) have a bachelors degree, so in the grand scheme of things it's not where you go that matters, but what you make of it. I didn't apply to any "prestigious" colleges mainly because most of the people who go to those institutions are so smug and full of themselves that it makes me sick. LukeAF24
65% of Americans are also 0-21 or 55+. That's a flawed statistic.
True. Either way though, what im trying to get at is that if you get a bachelors degree, no matter where its from, you can be successful.True. Either way though, what im trying to get at is that if you get a bachelors degree, no matter where its from, you can be successful. specialedpal
Certainly, but that's not what we were debating. The debate was if a degree from University A holds more clout than a degree from University B.
[QUOTE="specialedpal"]True. Either way though, what im trying to get at is that if you get a bachelors degree, no matter where its from, you can be successful. LukeAF24
Certainly, but that's not what we were debating. The debate was if a degree from University A holds more clout than a degree from University B.
Well yes, it does. Heck I dont care though im going into the Army after college so none of that really matters to me :PMIT is different, it's...MIT, if you go to an Ivy league svhool it's different, but anything beow Ivy Legaue doen't make too much of a difference as long as it isn't community college.Luke-85
I beieve MIT is not an Ivy league school, but I'd put it in a league of it's own anyways:P
I got in to a very prestigious university, however I couldn't pay for it. That's not to say that where I'm going is bad in any way. I would have liked to go to a really elite school, but it's really not a huge issue any more.bman784
Do you mind sharing what university that would be? I know American universities have crazy tuition compared to the ones over here in Canada...
[QUOTE="bman784"]I got in to a very prestigious university, however I couldn't pay for it. That's not to say that where I'm going is bad in any way. I would have liked to go to a really elite school, but it's really not a huge issue any more.Aznsilvrboy
Do you mind sharing what university that would be? I know American universities have crazy tuition compared to the ones over here in Canada...
California Institute of Technology. I'm currently going to the University of Colorado, Boulder.[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"][QUOTE="bman784"]I got in to a very prestigious university, however I couldn't pay for it. That's not to say that where I'm going is bad in any way. I would have liked to go to a really elite school, but it's really not a huge issue any more.bman784
Do you mind sharing what university that would be? I know American universities have crazy tuition compared to the ones over here in Canada...
California Institute of Technology. I'm currently going to the University of Colorado, Boulder.Wow...very impressive...
I go to one currently, so I guess so :P
Currently finishing 3rd and final year of a BSc at the University of Western Australia. Aiming for medical school after.
I think they're over rated. Sure they may have a higher chance of educating better than the average other university, but that doesn't guarrantee your local community college can't teach it any better. So from a perspective of money, it's not even close to being worth the $20,000 a year to go to some of them. It's ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is that most colleges consist of a guy standing in front of a group of hundreds of students (who the prof. doesn't even know all the names to) and you for some reason have to pay for that....When they could simply record all the lectures and put them on Youtube for free for everyone to access. GEE what a concept?!
At this point I have little chance in getting into the bigger name universities because of my grades, but what matters more is the field I'm interested in and my aspirations and how they get be developed through much cheaper and nearly equally good colleges. I don't see why people look at those colleges and takes them seriously.
[QUOTE="1337_ownage"]I do, better college = better careerSajedene
Back in the day that was the case - now more people are getting college degrees and the name of the school doesnt bear as much weight unless you're talking about your masters.
Lets face it - what would look better - art major from Stanford or Business law major from so and so
Your totally right, now employers only care aboutthe paper... they don't care about marks or skills.
I know, I am an engineer searching for my first job and I can only notice how stupid the peoples searching for us are.
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