Do u think creationists may believe in evolution if they looked at the evidence?

get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Thanatos1337

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

There is no evidence to make the claim as factual evidence that god created everything, that there was Adam or Eve etc.. If there were evidence on both sides the science community would be adamently divided and they are not.

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Thanatos1337

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

Really now. So what did it look like when your dog grew wings to get at the cats in trees?

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

You state that there is eveidence for creationism, then when pressed for it come up with nothing. Great job supporting your view point. This seems to be common among creationists. It's all "fact" until you actually press them. And for the record, "I can feel it" is *not* a fact. In the end, it seems that you sir, not the TC are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

Really now. So what did it look like when your dog grew wings to get at the cats in trees?

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Thanatos1337

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

Really now. So what did it look like when your dog grew wings to get at the cats in trees?

this crap has got to stop

the only way humankind will progress forward is if both sides of this debate just drop it and start respecting eachother. Sooner or later the undeniable truth will come out and that will be that.

Until then, stfu and keep your spiritual/scientific beliefs to yourself and mind your own business please.

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.KumaJr

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

You state that there is eveidence for creationism, then when pressed for it come up with nothing. Great job supporting your view point. This seems to be common among creationists. It's all "fact" until you actually press them. And for the record, "I can feel it" is *not* a fact. In the end, it seems that you sir, not the TC are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.

I've heard there is evidence for both. However I am not a deuchebag intent on falsifying people's beliefs, so I do not know of any evidence, and as I said before, nor do I care. Off my nuts, thxbai.

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

Really now. So what did it look like when your dog grew wings to get at the cats in trees?

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.swizz-the-gamer

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

Really now. So what did it look like when your dog grew wings to get at the cats in trees?

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Thanatos1337

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

Really now. So what did it look like when your dog grew wings to get at the cats in trees?

Ah he's just trolling, nevermind him...

I don't think the born and bred creationists could ever believe in it, but ones that aren't as sure of their beliefs probably could realize it's a well supported theory.

[QUOTE="KumaJr"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Sexy_Pirate

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

You state that there is eveidence for creationism, then when pressed for it come up with nothing. Great job supporting your view point. This seems to be common among creationists. It's all "fact" until you actually press them. And for the record, "I can feel it" is *not* a fact. In the end, it seems that you sir, not the TC are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.

I've heard there is evidence for both. However I am not a deuchebag intent on falsifying people's beliefs, so I do not know of any evidence, and as I said before, nor do I care. Off my nuts, thxbai.

I think that fact that researchers have recently demonstrated that they can alter the genetic machinery of birds using science to unlock previously dormant genetic material in order to get them to grow dinosaur tails, scales, and teeth speaks volumes for those that think evolution is not only a theory, but a law of nature.

The same researchers plan on taking an Emu and turning it into a raptor by turning on its dormant genes within the next few decades.

Who gives a flying ****? Believe what you want, no one knows the complete truth.TM_Darkside

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="KumaJr"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.Thanatos1337

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

You state that there is eveidence for creationism, then when pressed for it come up with nothing. Great job supporting your view point. This seems to be common among creationists. It's all "fact" until you actually press them. And for the record, "I can feel it" is *not* a fact. In the end, it seems that you sir, not the TC are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.

I've heard there is evidence for both. However I am not a deuchebag intent on falsifying people's beliefs, so I do not know of any evidence, and as I said before, nor do I care. Off my nuts, thxbai.

/thread

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="KumaJr"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.KumaJr

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

You state that there is eveidence for creationism, then when pressed for it come up with nothing. Great job supporting your view point. This seems to be common among creationists. It's all "fact" until you actually press them. And for the record, "I can feel it" is *not* a fact. In the end, it seems that you sir, not the TC are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.

I've heard there is evidence for both. However I am not a deuchebag intent on falsifying people's beliefs, so I do not know of any evidence, and as I said before, nor do I care. Off my nuts, thxbai.

/pointlessthread and tc dies

fixed for truth

how is it so hard to believe in evolution to some extent and God the creator?

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="KumaJr"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

[QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]get this bs off here. You have no idea what you are talking about. There's evidence on both sides.KumaJr

I don't know, nor do I care. Why do you?

You state that there is eveidence for creationism, then when pressed for it come up with nothing. Great job supporting your view point. This seems to be common among creationists. It's all "fact" until you actually press them. And for the record, "I can feel it" is *not* a fact. In the end, it seems that you sir, not the TC are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.

I've heard there is evidence for both. However I am not a deuchebag intent on falsifying people's beliefs, so I do not know of any evidence, and as I said before, nor do I care. Off my nuts, thxbai.

/pointlessthread and tc dies

fixed for truth

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Dracargen

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Dracargen

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Dracargen

Bible aside though, the young creationist doesn;'t have much evidence.. I have seen the major points to their debate and they either twist scientific evidence or completely ignore it all together.. A young earth creationist has contridictory evidence in just about eveyr major field of science from astronomy, enviromental, geogloical etc etc..
What scares me the most is alot of them try to twist and claim dinosaurs walked with man.. Now this is not whether god exists or not.. But alot of these older stories like Noah's Ark basically goes against common sense in general.

And unfortantely the second part you said is extremely hard to do.. There is very few general accepted consensus on alot of parts of the bible.. Many people are still grappling today as a immense majority that thigns like Noah's Ark is metaphore, actuality, or exgerration.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

swizz-the-gamer

Yes, but if I ever had a gun pointed to my head and the attacker was under the delusion that only one could be believed, I'd pick creationism.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Dracargen

Yes, but if I ever had a gun pointed to my head and the attacker was under the delusion that only one could be believed, I'd pick creationism.

What premise of creationism though? Because isn't creationism the idea of adam and eve and such?

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Dracargen

Yes, but if I ever had a gun pointed to my head and the attacker was under the delusion that only one could be believed, I'd pick creationism.

Everyone finds religion in a fox hole

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Sexy_Pirate

Yes, but if I ever had a gun pointed to my head and the attacker was under the delusion that only one could be believed, I'd pick creationism.

Everyone finds religion in a fox hole

I remember that line, but I heard it as "No atheists in the foxhole."

Makes sense.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

sSubZerOo

And unfortantely the second part you said is extremely hard to do.. There is very few general accepted consensus on alot of parts of the bible.. Many people are still grappling today as a immense majority that thigns like Noah's Ark is metaphore, actuality, or exgerration.

It's actually easy to set up a disproof of YEC using established doctrines in the Bible, but there's a catch.

God in the Bible cannot lie.

Evolution, as far as we can tell, appears to be true.

If YEC is true, then God lied about how the world was created.

Therefore, Christianity is false.

A YEC cannot have that, now can he? It's more spelled out here.

But then, here's the catch: There is not a YEC that doesn't know this already. So they go after the science of evolution, doing what you said by twisting the evidence. They then claim that there is enough reason to discount it, and so the proof is null.

It's pretty awesome when people try and tell other people how to live their lives.

I hope you don't get pissed off when people preach to you, or else you're a gigantic hypocrite.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

sSubZerOo

Bible aside though, the young creationist doesn;'t have much evidence.. I have seen the major points to their debate and they either twist scientific evidence or completely ignore it all together.. A young earth creationist has contridictory evidence in just about eveyr major field of science from astronomy, enviromental, geogloical etc etc..
What scares me the most is alot of them try to twist and claim dinosaurs walked with man.. Now this is not whether god exists or not.. But alot of these older stories like Noah's Ark basically goes against common sense in general.

And unfortantely the second part you said is extremely hard to do.. There is very few general accepted consensus on alot of parts of the bible.. Many people are still grappling today as a immense majority that thigns like Noah's Ark is metaphore, actuality, or exgerration.

What premise of creationism though? Because isn't creationism the idea of adam and eve and such?

sSubZerOo

That's the funny thing, because theistic evolution is creationism.:lol:

As for Adam and Eve, it is not impossible to believe in them and not YEC.

It's pretty awesome when people try and tell other people how to live their lives.

I hope you don't get pissed off when people preach to you, or else you're a gigantic hypocrite.

WildLIkeChild

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

What premise of creationism though? Because isn't creationism the idea of adam and eve and such?

Dracargen

That's the funny thing, because theistic evolution is creationism.:lol:

As for Adam and Eve, it is not impossible to believe in them and not YEC.

Yeah but creationism has become too much of a overbroad term.. Creationism can mean intelligent design, or it could mean adam and eve and a young earth..

It's pretty awesome when people try and tell other people how to live their lives.

I hope you don't get pissed off when people preach to you, or else you're a gigantic hypocrite.

WildLIkeChild

beautiful quote

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Mr_sprinkles

Bible aside though, the young creationist doesn;'t have much evidence.. I have seen the major points to their debate and they either twist scientific evidence or completely ignore it all together.. A young earth creationist has contridictory evidence in just about eveyr major field of science from astronomy, enviromental, geogloical etc etc..
What scares me the most is alot of them try to twist and claim dinosaurs walked with man.. Now this is not whether god exists or not.. But alot of these older stories like Noah's Ark basically goes against common sense in general.

And unfortantely the second part you said is extremely hard to do.. There is very few general accepted consensus on alot of parts of the bible.. Many people are still grappling today as a immense majority that thigns like Noah's Ark is metaphore, actuality, or exgerration.

That was unnecessary and non-sensical, unless you maintain that six billion out of the 6.5 billion people in the world reject common sense.:roll:

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

It's hardly a matter of evidence. Young Earth Creationists are not blind--they can see the evidence just as well as anyone else. The problem is, they believe that their evidence is stronger.

The only way to convince a young earth creationist is to show him that young earth creationism is against the Bible.

Dracargen

Bible aside though, the young creationist doesn;'t have much evidence.. I have seen the major points to their debate and they either twist scientific evidence or completely ignore it all together.. A young earth creationist has contridictory evidence in just about eveyr major field of science from astronomy, enviromental, geogloical etc etc..
What scares me the most is alot of them try to twist and claim dinosaurs walked with man.. Now this is not whether god exists or not.. But alot of these older stories like Noah's Ark basically goes against common sense in general.

And unfortantely the second part you said is extremely hard to do.. There is very few general accepted consensus on alot of parts of the bible.. Many people are still grappling today as a immense majority that thigns like Noah's Ark is metaphore, actuality, or exgerration.

That was unnecessary and non-sensical, unless you maintain that six billion out of the 6.5 billion people in the world reject common sense.:roll:

I think he is pointing out the people who believe in stories/myths like Noah's Ark and other such related ones.. That defy reason or logic. Top that off you have to understand those 6.3 billion people do not have much of a education the vast majorityof them.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

What premise of creationism though? Because isn't creationism the idea of adam and eve and such?

sSubZerOo

That's the funny thing, because theistic evolution is creationism.:lol:

As for Adam and Eve, it is not impossible to believe in them and not YEC.

Yeah but creationism has become too much of a overbroad term.. Creationism can mean intelligent design, or it could mean adam and eve and a young earth..

Well, religion could mean Christianity, Islam, or thousands of other things, just like Christianity can mean Baptism, Catholicism, Methodism, and Mormonism among others.

I just wish people would say "young earth creationism" when they mean young earth creationism, rather than creationism, which is basically synonymous with religion.

Intelligent design can include aliens, so in that sense it is not creationism.

I personally worship an orbiting teapot and you can't disprove it. Oh, and of course the teapot is too small to be observed. Respect my religion!jodamn

Russell's flying teapot.:roll:

If you can't see it, how do you know it orbits the sun?

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"]

It's pretty awesome when people try and tell other people how to live their lives.

I hope you don't get pissed off when people preach to you, or else you're a gigantic hypocrite.

Thanatos1337

When science can explain absolutely everything, or even half of everything, then you can say it has overwhelming evidence.