Do think the way rap music demeans women is acceptable?

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#1 kingyotoX
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Rap music often portrays women as nothing more than sex objects do find that acceptable, do think women dont deserve respect?
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#2 TheCaveRat
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They deserve respect, they definitely do. It's just in rap, it's accepted to disrespect them, why, I'll never know. It isn't going to change any time soon though. The funny thing is, is that this type of music gets most listened to by white high school girls, so... maybe that's encouraging rappers. Idk, it's stupid, gangster rap is stupid, nuff said.
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#3 Trickshot771
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Of course we're suppose to respect women. We're also not suppose to be listening to rap.
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#4 HeebsDizzle
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I don't agree with it, but the people who enjoy demeaning gangster rap have a right to feel however they want, as do the women who portray themselves in that light.
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#5 Jaysonguy
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No, no one should have a problem with it. What music we listen to does not direct our actions

Has anyone ever blamed the lyrics "I want to rock and roll all night, and party every day" with an economic crisis?

There are stupid people that listen to a song and follow the words exactly (they usually make the news at some point), thankfully they are at a minimum.

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#6 b3yondstupidity
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They're just songs.. Yeesh..
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#7 Serraph105
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women deserve to be respected but considering the sheer amount of girls I've seen dancing to the exact "music" your referring too maybe we should revise that to we should respect the women who find that kind of music offensive

EDIT im thinking we shouldnt lump all women into the same group some deserve respect while others may not

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#8 Led_poison
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Ofcourse, because looking at the women distracts us from the bigger picture, how bad the lyrics are.
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#9 bededog
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Artist have the right to put whatever they want into their songs. But you shouldn't be taking your values from media so I don't know why you really care about it.
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#10 Shadow2k6
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Its just a song. :|

Also the fact that a artist has the freedom to say/sing anything in a song is part of freedom of speech.

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#11 bededog
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Your poll is messed up. It should be "No, women deserve to be respected." and "Yes, who cares about women they shouldn't even have the right to vote!"
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#12 mr-sheep
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as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.
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#13 -Sluggo-
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I'm not going to vote since this is ridiculous.

Not all rap demeans women.

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#14 -Sluggo-
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as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.mr-sheep

Why is you avatar and sig Jay Z? :|

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#15 rastaman219
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Rap music often portrays women as nothing more than sex objects do find that acceptable, do think women dont deserve respect?kingyotoX

Wooooooooooo wait up women aint just for zex?

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#16 Tjeremiah1988
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its not ALL rap music oh and TC, its other genres of music too! Thats it, im never posting in these ignorant threads again.
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#17 RiSkyBiZ-13
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Rap music often portrays women as nothing more than sex objects do find that acceptable, do think women dont deserve respect?kingyotoX

Women listen to rap like crazy, I think it's hilarious. It's like blacks listening to white power music.

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#18 mr-sheep
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[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.-Sluggo-

Why is you avatar and sig Jay Z? :|

Jay-Z = Hip-hop. Rap is not hip-hop. Rap is the ignorant commercial bullsh*t. Hip-hop is poetry.

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#19 tofu-lion91
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They deserve respect, they definitely do. It's just in rap, it's accepted to disrespect them, why, I'll never know. It isn't going to change any time soon though. The funny thing is, is that this type of music gets most listened to by white high school girls, so... maybe that's encouraging rappers. Idk, it's stupid, gangster rap is stupid, nuff said.TheCaveRat

This. I don't know how they've been getting away with it tbh :|

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#20 kingyotoX
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They're just songs.. Yeesh..b3yondstupidity

I understand it's just music, but if I made a song that was called I hate back people and in the music video I was killing black people (of course it would be pretend) wouldn't you be offended.

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#21 fat_rob
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Nope...but it does hurt me soul

I used to hate hip hop
Yep, because the women degraded
But Too Short made me laugh,
Like a hypocrite i played it
A hypocrite i state it
Though I only recited half
Omitting the word b****, cursingg i wouldn't say it
Me and dog couldn't relate to the b**** that i dated
Forgive my favorite word for hers and hers alike
But i heard it from a song i heard and sorta liked

Honestly, some women just degrade themselves...does hip-hop exploit it? Yeah, but these chicks are out to get exploited...

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#22 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.mr-sheep

Why is you avatar and sig Jay Z? :|

Jay-Z = Hip-hop. Rap is not hip-hop. Rap is the ignorant commercial bullsh*t. Hip-hop is poetry.

Hip-hop is the culture...Rap is the music of the cultrue..therefore Jay-Z is hip-hop
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#23 -Sluggo-
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.mr-sheep

Why is you avatar and sig Jay Z? :|

Jay-Z = Hip-hop. Rap is not hip-hop. Rap is the ignorant commercial bullsh*t. Hip-hop is poetry.

I know what you mean. Rap - Lies = Hip-Hop. That said, I would consider Jay Z rap.

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#24  Edited By f15srcool
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#25 kingyotoX
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The rap I listen to doesn't demean women.f15srcool

sure :roll:

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#26 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="f15srcool"]The rap I listen to doesn't demean women.kingyotoX

sure :roll:

I can give you about 25 artist who do not demean women...but you wouldn't listen to them
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#27 WildLIkeChild
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.mr-sheep

Why is you avatar and sig Jay Z? :|

Jay-Z = Hip-hop. Rap is not hip-hop. Rap is the ignorant commercial bullsh*t. Hip-hop is poetry.

Isn't rap the music and hip-hop the style?

And maybe we should ask the countless rock artists who treat women as objects.

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#28 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]

[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]as much as i hate rap, id like you to know that it is not only rap that demeans women, FYI other music genres do it too.WildLIkeChild

Why is you avatar and sig Jay Z? :|

Jay-Z = Hip-hop. Rap is not hip-hop. Rap is the ignorant commercial bullsh*t. Hip-hop is poetry.

Isn't rap the music and hip-hop the style?

Hip-Hop=the culture as a whole and Rap=the music of Hip-Hop
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#29 kingyotoX
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="f15srcool"]The rap I listen to doesn't demean women.fat_rob

sure :roll:

I can give you about 25 artist who do not demean women...but you wouldn't listen to them

I would. I don't hate rap, I just don't appreciate a lot of the messages it portrays.

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#30 Erasorn
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Why do I allways get the feeling that the people who are most eager to talk about respect for women are the ones who thinks they are less capable somehow? Heck, there is loads of music that portray men as filth or other negative sterotypes but it's okay because we can handle it! however If it's about women it's suddenly "Waaaah, we have to protect them because they're weak!". Give me a break.. I respect people regardless of their gender and I also respect the Freedom of Speech which is like the coolest thing ever.
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#31 MKHavoc
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Women do deserve to be respected, but it's not just rap that disrespects them. Although I hate to admit it, plenty of video games treat women the same way.
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#32 Truth_Seekr
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As much as I would love to bang Trina - Foxxy Brown etc, they bring women in Hip-Hop down. Always singing swallowing men, taking it hard roguh all the time, naming songs like "I got a problem, I like to ****", etc. They bring down women more than men do.

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#33 NetYankEagle
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jesus another rap hate thread:roll:
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#34 Ninja-Hippo
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Meh. Kid Rock does exactly the same. I dont see why we have to turn this into more rap-hate. No music or film should do it.
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#35 muffincakes87
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T.V and Video games and alot other things demean women too...

Plus the videos of girls in rap videos choose to be in them. Just like how girls choose to be in p0rn.

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#36 VoodooGamer
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Woman listen to rap, think about it. ;)
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#37 Berzz
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Yes. Duh.
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#38 ChicaQueenWarGa
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I say no, but your poll question is stupid.
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#39 -Austin-
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It's unfair to say an entire genre of music is demeaning.
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#40 Matt-4542
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I have never and will never accept the way rap demeans women. Then again, I listen to the occasional song demeaning religion and people might not accept :P

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#41 GodLovesDead
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If it sells, it's acceptable.
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#42 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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Huge, false dichotomy in the poll... funny that I never hear the word 'demean' from anyone but those with a touch of misandry and those who believe in an anti-woman conspiracy.
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#43 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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its not ALL rap music oh and TC, its other genres of music too! Thats it, im never posting in these ignorant threads again. Tjeremiah1988
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#44 southy787
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Rap is not to blame. A large proportion of society see women as sex objects.
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#45 muffincakes87
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Rap is not to blame. A large proportion of society see women as sex objects.southy787

And in some sad cases women think of themeselves as sex objects too.

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#46 -Austin-
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[QUOTE="southy787"]Rap is not to blame. A large proportion of society see women as sex objects.muffincakes87

And in some sad cases women think of themeselves as sex objects too.

Yeah, I think the music just reflects what is happening in society. I must reiterate that not all rap music is demeaning.

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#47 Jacboy71
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Oh so we blame rap for demeaning women whatever dude nobody calls out porno playboy FHM none of that. Hell back in the day women could'nt even vote so its been a problem don't blame rap kid blame society.
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#48 -Austin-
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nobody calls out porno playboy FHM none of that.Jacboy71

Are you sure about that? I think feminist groups must have called out Playboy and porn companies at some point...

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#49 Jacboy71
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[QUOTE="Jacboy71"]nobody calls out porno playboy FHM none of that.-Austin-

Are you sure about that? I think feminist groups must have called out Playboy and porn companies at some point...

I am sure of that as well but rap music or the hip hop culture in general is called out so much more.

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#50 heyfunboy
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I'm a little confused about the poll chap. The question you posted was "Do think the way rap music demeans women is acceptable?" and then you say "Yes women deseve to be respected." Which means that it's okay for rap music to demean women.

Then you say "No who cares about women they shouldn't even have the right to vote!" Shouldn't the answer options be switched around so that it can make sense to the posted poll question of "Do think the way rap music demeans women is acceptable?"?