CNN exposes Obama and Bill Ayers link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ

even CNN is exposing this link...

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

Netherscourge

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. htekemerald

Did you watch the video?

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The_Mac_Daddy

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

OMG - I just heard John McCain was in VIETNAM during the war!

(nevermind the fact he was a prisoner in a bamboo cage)

This must mean he was a Viet-cong sympathizer!

TRAITOR!!!!

OMG - I just heard John McCain was in VIETNAM during the war!

(nevermind the fact he was a prisoner in a bamboo cage)

This must mean he was a Viet-cong sympathizer!

TRAITOR!!!!

Netherscourge

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. The_Mac_Daddy

Did you watch the video?

this is better.

anyway.. the mccain campaign is reeking of desperation these days.. :|

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

OMG - I just heard John McCain was in VIETNAM during the war!

(nevermind the fact he was a prisoner in a bamboo cage)

This must mean he was a Viet-cong sympathizer!

TRAITOR!!!!

htekemerald

Did you know McCain went to Iraq and left only a few days later? Cut and run, thats all hes good at.

So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. During the vietnam war... God knows how may years ago.htekemerald

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. MattUD1

Did you watch the video?

He has known him for a long time.. it said in the video he's been knowing him for years and served on a board with him for years. After september 11, 2001, ayers says he wished he would have bombed more. Obama was still working with him after that. He has been working with an unrepentant terrorist. It also said ayers basically launched his political career. That doesn't raise a red flag??

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

RuprechtMonkey

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. The_Mac_Daddy

Did you watch the video?

He has known him for a long time.. it said in the video he's been knowing him for years and served on a board with him for years. After september 11, 2001, ayers says he wished he would have bombed more. Obama was still working with him after that. He has been working with an unrepentant terrorist. That doesn't raise a red flag??

No not really, considering they were working on funding schools. This argument didn't hold any water during the primaries so I don't know why it would now.

"When you have no platform to run on, you paint the other guy as someone you should run from"eggdog1234

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. The_Mac_Daddy

Did you watch the video?

He has known him for a long time.. it said in the video he's been knowing him for years and served on a board with him for years. After september 11, 2001, ayers says he wished he would have bombed more. Obama was still working with him after that. He has been working with an unrepentant terrorist. It also said ayers basically launched his political career. That doesn't raise a red flag??

Considering how awful the conomy is right now, I think the Keating 5 is worse then any obscure association Obama may have had with anyone in his youth...

McCain just can't hide from that.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

RuprechtMonkey

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

this is better.

anyway.. the mccain campaign is reeking of desperation these days.. :|

comp_atkins

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The_Mac_Daddy

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

I stopped reading when I saw "foxnews" in the url...

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The_Mac_Daddy

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

:lol: of course a Fox poll!!

Considering how awful the conomy is right now, I think the Keating 5 is worse then any obscure association Obama may have had with anyone in his youth...

McCain just can't hide from that.

Netherscourge

Why do you keep saying during his youth? You are completely ignoring the most important parts. His political career was launched in ayers living room. And they have worked together even after september 11, 2001 when ayers said he wished he would have done more terroristic activities.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The_Mac_Daddy

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]So? obama new a guy when he was 7 years old that commited violence acts. MattUD1

Did you watch the video?

He has known him for a long time.. it said in the video he's been knowing him for years and served on a board with him for years. After september 11, 2001, ayers says he wished he would have bombed more. Obama was still working with him after that. He has been working with an unrepentant terrorist. It also said ayers basically launched his political career. That doesn't raise a red flag??

That's hardly the point. Obama also said he was just a guy that lived in his neighborhood and that was all...

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

Netherscourge

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

I stopped reading when I saw "foxnews" in the url...

Exactly, what people, regardless of what political party they tell the Fox News representative over the phone, are more likely to stay on the phone when Fox news calls?

I remember that when after each debate Fox news asked their viewers to text/call-in to vote on who "won" the debates, each time it was over 85% for the Republicans.

Hm, wonder why.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

Engrish_Major

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

:lol: of course a Fox poll!!

Yeah, the #1 news network is highly shady.

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

comp_atkins

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

RuprechtMonkey

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

I stopped reading when I saw "foxnews" in the url...

Exactly, what people, regardless of what political party they tell the Fox News representative over the phone, are more likely to stay on the phone when Fox news calls?

I remember that when after each debate Fox news asked their viewers to text/call-in to vote on who "won" the debates, each time it was over 85% for the Republicans.

Hm, wonder why.

Because the poll during the debates is a text poll and not a scientific poll like the one in the story?

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

comp_atkins

You are COMPLETELY missing the point. If you knew somebody bombed your country, your capitol, the pentagon, why in the hell would you ever in a million years agree to do business with him??? If you really hated what he did in his past, you would not even want to be near a dispicable person like that.. much less work with him, no matter what the cause is. But not only that, it's the fact that he is lying about his ties to him.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The_Mac_Daddy

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

:lol: of course a Fox poll!!

Yeah, the #1 news network is highly shady.

If you want to play the guilt by association game, than you better not vote for John McCain, either. Link256

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

willtsherman

well, then you think the same as many others who seem to think protecting their self-image is more important that getting something beneficial done for people. go america!

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

The_Mac_Daddy

You are COMPLETELY missing the point. If you knew somebody bombed your country, your capitol, the pentagon, why in the hell would you ever in a million years agree to do business with him??? If you really hated what he did in his past, you would not even want to be near a dispicable person like that.. much less work with him, no matter what the cause is.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The only people who care about this are the people who are already comitted to voting for McCain...

The_Mac_Daddy

Not true. A poll came out today saying that a third of independents say the ayers link will make them less likely to vote for obama..

What poll?

Hello?

I'd really like to see that poll, I looked but couldn't find it.

I'm not trying to start a political argument either, I genuinely want to see the poll.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-candidates-character/

I stopped reading when I saw "foxnews" in the url...

Exactly, what people, regardless of what political party they tell the Fox News representative over the phone, are more likely to stay on the phone when Fox news calls?

I remember that when after each debate Fox news asked their viewers to text/call-in to vote on who "won" the debates, each time it was over 85% for the Republicans.

Hm, wonder why.

Because the poll during the debates is a text poll and not a scientific poll like the one in the story?

When a company calls they first identify themselves, my point is someone who is willing to sit on the phone with a Fox news representative probably leans somewhat towards the right regardless of how they identify themselves (ind., etc.) to the person on the other end. That was why I made that point about the text-in votes, it's clear what base they appeal to. I've watched the three debates, the 2 P and the one VP debate, on Fox, I had to laugh when I saw that thing on the bottom of the screen.

Either way, I think most sane people, be they Democrat, Republican, Or Ind, don't stay on the phone with any of these politcal pollster companies.

One morning I got called by some Obama rep., part of the Democratic party's hype team, at 8AM in the morning during the primaries a while back. I picked up the phone, the lady got out one sentence, I said "Don't call me again, especially not at 8 in the morning," and I hung the phone up.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

The_Mac_Daddy

You are COMPLETELY missing the point. If you knew somebody bombed your country, your capitol, the pentagon, why in the hell would you ever in a million years agree to do business with him??? If you really hated what he did in his past, you would not even want to be near a dispicable person like that.. much less work with him, no matter what the cause is.

because the world is not black and white like you all seem to think.

[QUOTE="willtsherman"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

comp_atkins

well, then you think the same as many others who seem to think protecting their self-image is more important that getting something beneficial done for people. go america!

let me get this right.

they are picking on obama because he ( at the age of eight ) met someone by the name of Ayers who protested against wars and poor living?

and when i look at the vid all i'm seeing is good deeds being preformed by these same ppl. which also doesn't really prove they worked together. hmmm....all i see is this back firing on the REP's. itz getting really hilarious now.

let me get this right.

they are picking on obama because he ( at the age of 8) met someone by the name of Ayers who protested against wars and poor living?

and when i look at the vid all i'm seeing is good deeds being proform by these same ppl. which also dosen't really prove they worked together. hmmm....all i see is this back firing on the REP's. itz getting really hilarious now.

shyskillz

You are COMPLETELY missing the point. If you knew somebody bombed your country, your capitol, the pentagon, why in the hell would you ever in a million years agree to do business with him??? If you really hated what he did in his past, you would not even want to be near a dispicable person like that.. much less work with him, no matter what the cause is. But not only that, it's the fact that he is lying about his ties to him. The_Mac_Daddy

[QUOTE="shyskillz"]

let me get this right.

they are picking on obama because he ( at the age of 8) met someone by the name of Ayers who protested against wars and poor living?

and when i look at the vid all i'm seeing is good deeds being proform by these same ppl. which also dosen't really prove they worked together. hmmm....all i see is this back firing on the REP's. itz getting really hilarious now.

willtsherman

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]You are COMPLETELY missing the point. If you knew somebody bombed your country, your capitol, the pentagon, why in the hell would you ever in a million years agree to do business with him??? If you really hated what he did in his past, you would not even want to be near a dispicable person like that.. much less work with him, no matter what the cause is. But not only that, it's the fact that he is lying about his ties to him. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

comp_atkins

You are COMPLETELY missing the point. If you knew somebody bombed your country, your capitol, the pentagon, why in the hell would you ever in a million years agree to do business with him??? If you really hated what he did in his past, you would not even want to be near a dispicable person like that.. much less work with him, no matter what the cause is.

because the world is not black and white like you all seem to think.

Wow, that's an incredibly vague, weak response. I don't see how you can turn a blind eye like meh, no big deal. So he worked with a terrorist who bombed the pentagon and the capitol building. Meh, no big deal.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="willtsherman"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

holy crap is the whole freaking country insane!? yes, obama worked with the guy. not to blow up federal building or to kill teh troops.. but to, get ready for this folks because it'a a real shocker, HELP SCHOOL CHILDREN!! :shock: what a bastard! how can anyone support and work with a man to improve the educational opportunities of inner city youth?!? what a scumbag!!! you BETTER not vote for obama or i'm taking away your parking!

willtsherman

well, then you think the same as many others who seem to think protecting their self-image is more important that getting something beneficial done for people. go america!

thanks for making my point for me.