Canada could face civil War soon.

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Former military official says poverty and anger in indigenous communities mean conditions for an "insurgency" are ripe.

Living standards for indigenous people on par with "third world" countries, buttressed by a large population of unemployed young men in a "warrior cohort", and easy-to-target economic infrastructure, all mean Canada has conditions for a potential indigenous "insurgency".

That's according to a new report penned by a former Canadian military officer for the MacDonald Laurier Institute, a think-tank supported by corporate executives.

"For many Aboriginal people in Canada, but especially for First Nations women and children, life on-reserve is dreary, dark and dangerous," wrote Douglas Bland in the report, Canada and the first Nations: Cooperation or Conflict? "Social fractionalisation significantly increases the risk of social conflict. The phenomenon provides motives for an insurgency," read the report, issued in May.

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#2 Jimn_tonic
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So the natives are pissed?

What else is new in Canada?

BTW I like how one of your links leads to a non-existant article. Very thought-provoking 

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The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..
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What are they gonna do, throw snowballs at eachother?

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#5 Zeviander
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That would require them to actually get up and do something.
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The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..FrostyPhantasm

Poor Natives is a group of people I have absolutely no sympathy for.  When I went on a reservation in South Dakota I learned alot.  I basically learned how lazy and racist many (not all) of these people are.  We were putting new tiles in a day care center.  It was a two day project, when we go in the next day the building is covered in racist words spray painted onto the sides.  The girls in my group were threatened with rape.  

Every chore we did for individuals cost us zero dollars to do, only a few hours time (meaning they were just lazy bums who didn't feel like doing any work).

 Then one of the guys there was so addicted to alcohol that he would go around and gather up old hair spray cans and distill the remains into alcohol and drink that (He lived in a shed which we replaced the roof on).  He atleast gave adviced to the kids saying "dont end up like me."

My dad told me stories of how he did a similar thing, going on a reservation and fixing things, but his group actually left all of their tools there so the people on the res could continue working for themselves.  He said someone from his group visited the same place a year later and the tools hadn't even been TOUCHED.

Anyways, the natives would be crushed. 

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..hoola

Poor Natives is a group of people I have absolutely no sympathy for.  When I went on a reservation in South Dakota I learned alot.  I basically learned how lazy and racist many (not all) of these people are.  We were putting new tiles in a day care center.  It was a two day project, when we go in the next day the building is covered in racist words spray painted onto the sides.  The girls in my group were threatened with rape.  

Every chore we did for individuals cost us zero dollars to do, only a few hours time (meaning they were just lazy bums who didn't feel like doing any work).

 Then one of the guys there was so addicted to alcohol that he would go around and gather up old hair spray cans and distill the remains into alcohol and drink that (He lived in a shed which we replaced the roof on).  He atleast gave adviced to the kids saying "dont end up like me."

My dad told me stories of how he did a similar thing, going on a reservation and fixing things, but his group actually left all of their tools there so the people on the res could continue working for themselves.  He said someone from his group visited the same place a year later and the tools hadn't even been TOUCHED.

Anyways, the natives would be crushed. 

That's how it is here, very very few graduate from highschool as many just end up in gangs or drinking and doing drugs at 16 and end up getting in so many fights they get kicked out. Thus they do not get an education, don't go to college/uni, don't get a job, sell drugs, get someone pregnant, and have kids that repeat the same thing. Then complain that we don't do enough..
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That would require them to actually get up and do something.Zeviander
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That would require them to actually get up and do something.Zeviander
Haha yup, Put down the booze, stop living off welfare and get a job. Natives are always whining and complianing, when first they need to be the change that they want to see
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The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..FrostyPhantasm

Like having all their land stolen from them by whites.

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..GummiRaccoon

Like having all their land stolen from them by whites.

Huh? I don't recall us stealing land from anyone for over hundreds of years. Time to put the big boy civilization pants, stop playing victim, and act like a productive member of society.
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]That would require them to actually get up and do something.gamerguru100

 lol

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..GummiRaccoon

Like having all their land stolen from them by whites.

I'd be fine with giving them Michigan. If only it weren't for the fact it isn't ours to give.
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..FrostyPhantasm

Like having all their land stolen from them by whites.

Huh? I don't recall us stealing land from anyone for over hundreds of years. Time to put the big boy civilization pants, stop playing victim, and act like a productive member of society.

Pretty much. Whites in the 21st century aren't responsible for the actions of whites in the 19th century. I don't get why some people find that so difficult to understand.
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Down with the french.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..LightR

Like having all their land stolen from them by whites.

I'd be fine with giving them Michigan. If only it weren't for the fact it isn't ours to give.

They can take Michigan from my cold, bloody hands!

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Like having all their land stolen from them by whites.

gamerguru100

Huh? I don't recall us stealing land from anyone for over hundreds of years. Time to put the big boy civilization pants, stop playing victim, and act like a productive member of society.

Pretty much. Whites in the 21st century aren't responsible for the actions of whites in the 19th century. I don't get why some people find that so difficult to understand.

Except Canada really **** up the Native communities till the 1990s. http://www.rcinet.ca/english/archives/column/the-link-africa/TruthandReconciliationCanadaSouthAfricaResidentialSchoolsAbuses/

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haha you canadians are racists

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Give them some $$ and they can use the $$ to build casinos, ???, profit?

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why do they choose to live on a reserve in the middle of buttf*ck no where? no sh*t its gonna be like a third world countryJustSignedUp
Because many are born there. Alcoholism and unemployment are rampant amongst natives communities and it sets up an unfortunate cycle. The government has tried to get these communities on par with the rest of the country in terms of crime, drug consumption and joblessness but they've gone about it poorly for the most part and it's either been ineffective or exacerbated the issues. When you're raised with little money can't get a job when you come of age what else are you going to do? You're going to stay where you are, same deal with people living in ghettos around the world. That's just for the ones who actually want to move as many seem to feel a connection to their heritage which is for the most part quite location based. Vicious cycle is a term for a reason and while it's certainly not exclusive to them it sums up a large portion of Native Americans situation quite well.
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beavers have had enough?
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Give them some $$ and they can use the $$ to build casinos, ???, profit?

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Oh wait, we gave them millions of acres of "their land" back, and each band gets millions (sometimes tens of millions) yearly as a means to make amends. Then they turn around and complain because their land doesn't have a working sewer system, or jobs for them to work. They can't have it both ways.
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#24 Angie7F
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It takes hell of a lot more than that to start a war...

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I do not know if the Candians even know how to have a war.
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you live in fcking canada, one of the best countries in the world, if you can't even manage with all the support the government gives you, just kill yourself.
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not during the nhl playoffs...
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you live in fcking canada, one of the best countries in the world, if you can't even manage with all the support the government gives you, just kill yourself. Lonelynight
"Just kill yourself"? You need to grow up kid.
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My main concern is this could lead to a Maple Syrup shortage, the life blood of the world economy.

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#30 Strakha
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Down with the french.

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Down with the English. Vive la Revolution!

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ITT: so much racism
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]you live in fcking canada, one of the best countries in the world, if you can't even manage with all the support the government gives you, just kill yourself. heeweesRus
"Just kill yourself"? You need to grow up kid.

I think it's they who need to grow up. and don't give me that sh!t about wanting to stay in their ancestral lands, you don't need no god damn ancestral lands, just move away.
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you live in fcking canada, one of the best countries in the world, if you can't even manage with all the support the government gives you, just kill yourself. Lonelynight

Meh is far behind Murica and best Korea.

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The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..FrostyPhantasm
How about the fact that they were put into those communities? Idiots... idiots everywhere.
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From who will Canada request military help from? UK or the USA?

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[QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Huh? I don't recall us stealing land from anyone for over hundreds of years. Time to put the big boy civilization pants, stop playing victim, and act like a productive member of society. Communist_Soul

Pretty much. Whites in the 21st century aren't responsible for the actions of whites in the 19th century. I don't get why some people find that so difficult to understand.

Except Canada really **** up the Native communities till the 1990s. http://www.rcinet.ca/english/archives/column/the-link-africa/TruthandReconciliationCanadaSouthAfricaResidentialSchoolsAbuses/

But is that the fault of the 20-25 million white people in Canada just living out their lives? No. The government needs to be blamed, not the entire racial group.
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I think it's they who need to grow up. and don't give me that sh!t about wanting to stay in their ancestral lands, you don't need no god damn ancestral lands, just move away. Lonelynight

Because just moving away is so easy, right?

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]The natives are complaining in Canada? There is a shocker.. Not to mention most of what's wrong in their communities is their fault..lowkey254
How about the fact that they were put into those communities? Idiots... idiots everywhere.

Uhh. Them? They aren't forced labour camps. They wanted their land back and were given large portions of it and given millions of dollars. They could easily move to somewhere better if they so desired.
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That would require them to actually get up and do something.Zeviander

Oh no you di'int!

But yeah, Natives would never rebel, they are too used to suckling the teat of the sympathetic white man.

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If they want to live on a "reserve" then why do they complain about not getting things from the government? Isnt the whole point to be isolated from the society? Oh but of course they want to have their cake and eat it too
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Wow. All of this anti-native speech is very disappointing...and quite surprising to be honest.
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I do not know if the Candians even know how to have a war. LAN7ERN

Well I know one thing,you don't know much.Never heard of the war of 1812,you american aholes lost that war.Do you remember Vietnam?Another war the U.S.A. fought alone and lost thousands of lives for nothing.A country that fight with sticks and stones againts war jets and MK-16.Americans lost that war too.America can't go into a problem country and handle it yourselfs.To answer your Stupid question if Canada can fight in a war....Why don't you grow a pair and act your age,not your penis size.Just to add to it,why don't you fvcking Americans stay out of the worlds problems and mind your own fvcking bussiness for a while,a long while.The world would be in a better situation right now if the Americans would just concentrate on their OWN issues,not the worlds.

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Wow. All of this anti-native speech is very disappointing...and quite surprising to be honest.thebest31406
Welcome to Canada where we're perfectly accepting of everyone except an entire Province and our natives. Also I don't see how it's surprising, maybe because I've lived here all my life. I know some natives who have said things pretty similar to what has been said by others in this thread. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the statistics point to something very wrong and looking at what happened in the past and what circumstances those past actions created it really isn't hard to see why, it would happen to any group.
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"]Wow. All of this anti-native speech is very disappointing...and quite surprising to be honest.Ace6301
Welcome to Canada where we're perfectly accepting of everyone except an entire Province and our natives.

Which province is that? Alberta?
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[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"]

Down with the french.

Strakha

Down with the English. Vive la Revolution!

Two noodleheads.

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[QUOTE="LAN7ERN"]I do not know if the Candians even know how to have a war. brimmul777

Well I know one thing,you don't know much.Never heard of the war of 1812,you american aholes lost that war.Do you remember Vietnam?Another war the U.S.A. fought alone and lost thousands of lives for nothing.A country that fight with sticks and stones againts war jets and MK-16.Americans lost that war too.America can't go into a problem country and handle it yourselfs.To answer your Stupid question if Canada can fight in a war....Why don't you grow a pair and act your age,not your penis size.Just to add to it,why don't you fvcking Americans stay out of the worlds problems and mind your own fvcking bussiness for a while,a long while.The world would be in a better situation right now if the Americans would just concentrate on their OWN issues,not the worlds.

Shh...let the butthurt flow...

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"]Wow. All of this anti-native speech is very disappointing...and quite surprising to be honest.Ace6301
Welcome to Canada where we're perfectly accepting of everyone except an entire Province and our natives. Also I don't see how it's surprising, maybe because I've lived here all my life. I know some natives who have said things pretty similar to what has been said by others in this thread. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the statistics point to something very wrong and looking at what happened in the past and what circumstances those past actions created it really isn't hard to see why, it would happen to any group.

Guess I'm just surprised at the overwhelming racism towards them on this forum. I know of maybe 6 or 7 blatant racist here on GS; 3 of which I've blocked. But when the talk of Canadian natives comes up, the resentment is almost universal lol.
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="thebest31406"]Wow. All of this anti-native speech is very disappointing...and quite surprising to be honest.thebest31406
Welcome to Canada where we're perfectly accepting of everyone except an entire Province and our natives. Also I don't see how it's surprising, maybe because I've lived here all my life. I know some natives who have said things pretty similar to what has been said by others in this thread. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the statistics point to something very wrong and looking at what happened in the past and what circumstances those past actions created it really isn't hard to see why, it would happen to any group.

Guess I'm just surprised at the overwhelming racism towards them on this forum. I know of maybe 6 or 7 blatant racist here on GS; 3 of which I've blocked. But when the talk of Canadian natives comes up, the resentment is almost universal lol.

Try living in Canada and talking about the Idle No More movement, Natives requesting more income for their reserves, more land, or natives trying to stop Oil Pipelines being built and see how low of a percentage support them.
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Welcome to Canada where we're perfectly accepting of everyone except an entire Province and our natives. Also I don't see how it's surprising, maybe because I've lived here all my life. I know some natives who have said things pretty similar to what has been said by others in this thread. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the statistics point to something very wrong and looking at what happened in the past and what circumstances those past actions created it really isn't hard to see why, it would happen to any group.

Guess I'm just surprised at the overwhelming racism towards them on this forum. I know of maybe 6 or 7 blatant racist here on GS; 3 of which I've blocked. But when the talk of Canadian natives comes up, the resentment is almost universal lol.

Try living in Canada and talking about the Idle No More movement, Natives requesting more income for their reserves, more land, or natives trying to stop Oil Pipelines being built and see how low of a percentage support them.

I think that would be implying anybody took that movement seriously, including the natives. People thought OWS was poorly done and organized...
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Welcome to Canada where we're perfectly accepting of everyone except an entire Province and our natives. Also I don't see how it's surprising, maybe because I've lived here all my life. I know some natives who have said things pretty similar to what has been said by others in this thread. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the statistics point to something very wrong and looking at what happened in the past and what circumstances those past actions created it really isn't hard to see why, it would happen to any group.FrostyPhantasm
Guess I'm just surprised at the overwhelming racism towards them on this forum. I know of maybe 6 or 7 blatant racist here on GS; 3 of which I've blocked. But when the talk of Canadian natives comes up, the resentment is almost universal lol.

Try living in Canada and talking about the Idle No More movement, Natives requesting more income for their reserves, more land, or natives trying to stop Oil Pipelines being built and see how low of a percentage support them.

I don't know much about Canada or its relationship with its minority and indigenous populations but life has taught me that whenever one ethnic or racial group starts bad mouthing another racial or ethnic group, it's better to research the situation properly to see where the truth lies.