@MakeMeaSammitch said:
Art in college is kinda a joke. Art today is in general a joke, just look at that modern art thread where we couldn't tell the difference between toddler paintings and 10,000 dollar pieces.
Yes, that guy is a jerk, if the trumpeter isn't very good, how does he expect the trumpeter to get better if he doesn't practice?
I didn't watch the video, so I won't comment on that.
I also can't say whether or not the art in that "modern art" thread was good or bad, so I won't speak about that either.
However, let me point out that a significant number of people were correctly able to identify most of those paintings as either "modern art" or "art made by toddlers". I guess it's POSSIBLE that those people just made lucky guesses, but it's also POSSIBLE that a whole lot of "modern art" that supposedly "looks like something a toddler could have done" also have signs of deliberste intent that would not be readily apparent to someone who hasn't been as well versed in art.
Given that, I find it a little bit disturbing that you'd say formal education in art is a joke. That argument sort of boils down to "it's not worth being educated about, because most people aren't educated about it." And, like, holy $hit! That's blatantly anti-education.
I like how you pointed out that art "in college" is a joke. Art in college is a joke compared to what? Art in high school? Art in kindergarten? Dude...at least in college, teachers actually get sort of serious about psychology, purpose, applications, and visual literacy. At lower levels such as K-12, this $hit is usually treated more as a free A where everyone gets a free pass regardless of merit. It's basically the special olympics. Are you really so willing to have an entire f***ing field (a HUGE field which permeates basically every facet of day-to-day life) relegated to people who are f***ing uneducated with it? If it wasn't for "art" or "art in college", think about how many of our beloved videogames and movies would have never been f***ing made. Seriously, do that. Think about some of your most favorite stuff (and this not only applies to visual art, but literature and music as well). Look up the credits, then look up the backgrounds of the people involved. Certainly not in every case, but in an absolute $hitload of cases you'll see that the people instrumental in making that work got their education by formally studying art in college.
This stuff doesn't come out of a vacuum. People look at "modern art", don't understand it, and think that education in the arts is worthless. This is largely due to the BS PC attitude in which everyone gets a medal for participating. And that's f***ing wrong, because art is a f***ing meritocracy. ESPECIALLY now due to the fact that the barrier of entry has been lowered so much that everyone can do it. Think about YOUR job, then ask yourself if anyone would be willing to pay you for it if everyone was qualified and able to do it and there was an unlimited supply of people willing to do it for free. And the obvious answer is that if that was the case, you wouldn't have that job. THE SAME APPLIES FOR ARTISTS. We're talking about applied science and communication here. And YES, that requires people to know their $hit. And no...despite being "fans", most people DON'T know their $hit. While a formal college education doesn't guarantee work and isn't necessary to get work, it can sure as hell help out a whole f***ing lot.
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