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#1 dave123321
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Hey guys. Any of you folks teachers? Planning to become one ? What do you (plan to) teach? Are you a difficult or less rigorous teacher? What is the workload you give your students? Best and worst experiences? What are the aspects you enjoy the most/least? Any particular stories from that may be of interest? Anywho, discuss. Above questions need not be answered specifically, just a guideline for discussion.
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#2 Pirate700
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Are you wanting to become one or something?

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#3 comp_atkins
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don't forget the perk of anything being able to look up how much money you make ( assuming public school of course )
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Are you wanting to become one or something?

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I am exploring the possibility. Though this thread is not really related to that much at all.
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i tutor math, does that count? i even do it for free, that should appease the socialists.

teaching is noble but in a system where teachers are not accountable for what and how well they teach.... rant avoided.

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i tutor math, does that count? i even do it for free, that should appease the socialists.

teaching is noble but in a system where teachers are not accountable for what and how well they teach.... rant avoided.

surrealnumber5

Or in the case with some teachers I had in HS, whether or not they teach at all. I had several teachers that pretty much just had us read the book and answer the questions at the end of the chapter. Meanwhile, they'd be surfing the web or doing something else.

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don't forget the perk of anything being able to look up how much money you make ( assuming public school of course )comp_atkins
how can the country that spends the second most on primary education educate so poorly? for one it is not spent on teachers and most that is spent on teachers is not spent on discretionary income(cash), just benefits they may or may not use, the incentives as set are not good, i know what i would blame but that is immaterial to where we are..

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

i tutor math, does that count? i even do it for free, that should appease the socialists.

teaching is noble but in a system where teachers are not accountable for what and how well they teach.... rant avoided.

Or in the case with some teachers I had in HS, whether or not they teach at all. I had several teachers that pretty much just had us read the book and answer the questions at the end of the chapter. Meanwhile, they'd be surfing the web or doing something else.

i had a handfull of teachers in the 11 and 12th grade that actually cared and taught, but i know what you mean in large part.
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]don't forget the perk of anything being able to look up how much money you make ( assuming public school of course )surrealnumber5

how can the country that spends the second most on primary education educate so poorly? for one it is not spent on teachers and most that is spent on teachers is not spent on discretionary income(cash), just benefits they may or may not use, the incentives as set are not good, i know what i would blame but that is immaterial to where we are..

part of it is cultural imo.. we may spend a ---load on education but as a society i don't we have the appropriate value on education or its benefits. seems like we have a "well, i pay them to do it for me, so it's their fault my kid is failing" attitude. if society doesn't give a s---, why expect the kids to give a s---.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

i tutor math, does that count? i even do it for free, that should appease the socialists.

teaching is noble but in a system where teachers are not accountable for what and how well they teach.... rant avoided.

surrealnumber5

Or in the case with some teachers I had in HS, whether or not they teach at all. I had several teachers that pretty much just had us read the book and answer the questions at the end of the chapter. Meanwhile, they'd be surfing the web or doing something else.

i had a handfull of teachers in the 11 and 12th grade that actually cared and taught, but i know what you mean in large part.

Same. I had many teachers that were fantastic. There were some though that pretty much ran their class like daycare.

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taught few on basic computers usage , does it count dave? :P

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a browny teaching little kids that will end real nicely
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]don't forget the perk of anything being able to look up how much money you make ( assuming public school of course )comp_atkins

how can the country that spends the second most on primary education educate so poorly? for one it is not spent on teachers and most that is spent on teachers is not spent on discretionary income(cash), just benefits they may or may not use, the incentives as set are not good, i know what i would blame but that is immaterial to where we are..

part of it is cultural imo.. we may spend a ---load on education but as a society i don't we have the appropriate value on education or its benefits. seems like we have a "well, i pay them to do it for me, so it's their fault my kid is failing" attitude. if society doesn't give a s---, why expect the kids to give a s---.

so you blame the people that pay the bill over the teachers that are assigned a methodologies? i am bias as all hell on this topic because of my experience in public schools, in short i dont agree with that at all. i look at the correlation between federal involvement and lowering standards and outcomes and i do draw a large portion of causation. there may be other factors but lest not ignore the thousand pound gorilla in the room. i think, when you get politics into education you get a political education and that only benefits politicians.

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]a browny teaching little kids that will end real nicely

I am beginning to see why so people are leaving OT
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#15 Pirate700
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a browny teaching little kids that will end real nicelyJigglyWiggly_
I think you mean a Brony.

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I am currently exploring the possibility of being a teacher.
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I was expecting this to be a "i need help with something" thread.
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#18 Kats_RK
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I once spoke to a teacher on gamespot.I forgot his username :(

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#19 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]a browny teaching little kids that will end real nicelydave123321
I am beginning to see why so people are leaving OT

i think it might be time for another few months away. also, lol @ daves rank being zenny, enjoy the little things.

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]a browny teaching little kids that will end real nicelyPirate700

I think you mean a Brony.

i meant brownies sorry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3DnhD8Gls
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] how can the country that spends the second most on primary education educate so poorly? for one it is not spent on teachers and most that is spent on teachers is not spent on discretionary income(cash), just benefits they may or may not use, the incentives as set are not good, i know what i would blame but that is immaterial to where we are..

surrealnumber5

part of it is cultural imo.. we may spend a ---load on education but as a society i don't we have the appropriate value on education or its benefits. seems like we have a "well, i pay them to do it for me, so it's their fault my kid is failing" attitude. if society doesn't give a s---, why expect the kids to give a s---.

so you blame the people that pay the bill over the teachers that are assigned a methodologies? i am bias as all hell on this topic because of my experience in public schools, in short i dont agree with that at all. i look at the correlation between federal involvement and lowering standards and outcomes and i do draw a large portion of causation. there may be other factors but lest not ignore the thousand pound gorilla in the room. i think, when you get politics into education you get a political education and that only benefits politicians.

that probably wasn't worded well. i ( partially ) blame the people who pay the bills in that they're not demanding real accountability and being appeased by the solution of just throwing more money at the problem to fix it. we're accepting a sh--y system.. kinda like how everyone complains about congress but only 5% of its members lose their next election.. i don't have the answers, but we're defiantly not serious about fixing things yet.... :P
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not a teacher, but literally all the teachers i've had, with few really rare exceptions, are in it for the money and so should you general rule, do your job, know its system, and try not to be the ahole teacher everybody hates, unless you enjoy that
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Hey guys. Any of you folks teachers? Planning to become one ? What do you (plan to) teach? Are you a difficult or less rigorous teacher? What is the workload you give your students? Best and worst experiences? What are the aspects you enjoy the most/least? Any particular stories from that may be of interest? Anywho, discuss. Above questions need not be answered specifically, just a guideline for discussion. dave123321

I teach music at college. I push my students hard, but only after establishing a good rapport with them and spending some time helping them understand WHY they have to work so hard. It's college, so they always have something on the go for me, but much of it is self-directed or project-based, rather than fill-in-the-blank assignments, which I frankly feel have little educational value beyond helping develop work ethic. I've had no bad experiences - seriously. I have the right temperament and a talent for instruction, and so I consistently get great reviews from both my students and colleagues that far exceed both my department and institution's overall instructor ratings. Moreover, both I and my students seem to enjoy the experience.

I least enjoy the administrative aspect of instruction. Meetings, organizing, paper pushing... all a bunch of crap that gets in the way of actually teaching. But someone's got to do it. I also dislike the obsessive and overbearing enforcement of PD activities on instructors who have repeatedly proven the quality of their work. I very often feel that there is no trust whatsoever from upper admin that a good instructor will continue to do a good job without jumping through hoops. Or maybe they just need some more paper to be pushed to ensure they aren't deemed expendable. In any event, most of the PD activities I've engaged in are a bunch of nonsense that did nothing to improve my teaching and just wasted my time. It reminds me to be careful in crafting my students' assignments to avoid inflicting the same useless learning experience on them.

Anyways, I like the job a lot. If I need to work, I'd choose this job any day of the week. But I'd also retire at the first opportunity if I hit it big with investments, not because I dislike the teaching, but because I despise the rest of the baggage that comes with it.

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not a teacher, but literally all the teachers i've had, with few really rare exceptions, are in it for the money and so should you general rule, do your job, know its system, and try not to be the ahole teacher everybody hates, unless you enjoy thatVictorious_Fize

The money's not all that good. Certainly enough to earn a decent living, but chances are you'll never get rich teaching, unless you start up a successful religious cult. At least in my neck of the woods, there are jobs that pay a heck of a lot more and require far less education.

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What types of music do you teach? Any Notorious BIG on the playlist?

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What types of music do you teach? Any Notorious BIG on the playlist?

Yusuke420

My expertise is cIassical, and that's what I teach. We have other people who teach the more recent stuff.

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

What types of music do you teach? Any Notorious BIG on the playlist?

pianist

My expertise is cIassical, and that's what I teach. We have other people who teach the more recent stuff.

Is it hard to keep your students enthusiastic about classical music?

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I do 4K, it's great. I love that age when kids are excited for school, for learning, and are little sponges. Unlike when they get older and they just want to lash out at the world, going through puberty, etc.

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I tutor
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If teaching my UNI friends.....EVERYTHING makes me a teacher then yes! XD
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I tutor themajormayor

mhm

go on tell what you teach, i'm willing to learn :oops:

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If teaching my UNI friends.....EVERYTHING makes me a teacher then yes! XDFMAB_GTO

I often do that too.

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#33 indzman
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If teaching my UNI friends.....EVERYTHING makes me a teacher then yes! XDFMAB_GTO

Hi proffessor Hana =D

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]I tutor indzman

mhm

go on tell what you teach, i'm willing to learn :oops:

Math, english and natural science. Mostly math

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#35 FMAB_GTO
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I often do that too.

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Awesome John! ^w^

Hi proffessor Hana =D

indzman
rofl, someone called me that here one time =P
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#36 indzman
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[QUOTE="johnd13"]

I often do that too.

FMAB_GTO

Awesome John! ^w^

Hi proffessor Hana =D

indzman

rofl, someone called me that here one time =P

see i told ya :P

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#37 indzman
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]I tutor themajormayor

mhm

go on tell what you teach, i'm willing to learn :oops:

Math, english and natural science. Mostly math

WOW, i'm impressed. Shame my college life is complete or else i'dve definately taken maths tutions from you :oops:

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Professor of Chemistry. When you are teaching General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, the difficulty is built in, so I try to help out my students as much as possible.

I have been told, to my face, that I'm a terrible teacher, from a student that I was helping all year, and who ended up getting a B. This was the same year that I was nominated for a teaching award.

I hate it when I see students texting in class, but there's little I can do about it, other than try to make the class as interesting as possible, using current events, Youtube videos, etc.

I come from a family of teachers, so it's in my blood, and I married a teacher too.

Current state of teaching at the college level: tuition is too expensive, there are too many administrators, salaries are often too low at many institutions, and many students feeling entitled and expect instant information and gratification. There are still amazing students, who works, hard, great professors and instructors who don't get enough credits, and some hope on the horizion that our country my stops it's slide on the world education scale.

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I is a teacher.

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

What types of music do you teach? Any Notorious BIG on the playlist?

pianist

My expertise is cIassical, and that's what I teach. We have other people who teach the more recent stuff.

Classical, does that mean like the Chronic album?

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Professor of Chemistry. When you are teaching General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, the difficulty is built in, so I try to help out my students as much as possible.

I have been told, to my face, that I'm a terrible teacher, from a student that I was helping all year, and who ended up getting a B. This was the same year that I was nominated for a teaching award.

I hate it when I see students texting in class, but there's little I can do about it, other than try to make the class as interesting as possible, using current events, Youtube videos, etc.

I come from a family of teachers, so it's in my blood, and I married a teacher too.

Current state of teaching at the college level: tuition is too expensive, there are too many administrators, salaries are often too low at many institutions, and many students feeling entitled and expect instant information and gratification. There are still amazing students, who works, hard, great professors and instructors who don't get enough credits, and some hope on the horizion that our country my stops it's slide on the world education scale.

jimkabrhel

You teach at a College, I thought you were a high school teacher. Also can't you take the students phones temporarily (i.e. until class is over) if you catch them texting?

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Professor of Chemistry. When you are teaching General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, the difficulty is built in, so I try to help out my students as much as possible.

I have been told, to my face, that I'm a terrible teacher, from a student that I was helping all year, and who ended up getting a B. This was the same year that I was nominated for a teaching award.

I hate it when I see students texting in class, but there's little I can do about it, other than try to make the class as interesting as possible, using current events, Youtube videos, etc.

I come from a family of teachers, so it's in my blood, and I married a teacher too.

Current state of teaching at the college level: tuition is too expensive, there are too many administrators, salaries are often too low at many institutions, and many students feeling entitled and expect instant information and gratification. There are still amazing students, who works, hard, great professors and instructors who don't get enough credits, and some hope on the horizion that our country my stops it's slide on the world education scale.

whipassmt

You teach at a College, I thought you were a high school teacher. Also can't you take the students phones temporarily (i.e. until class is over) if you catch them texting?

I teach at a two-year college. And I could take away devices for the lecture, but there are so many, and I would do it so often that it would be a waste of time. I would rather they come to respect me enough to pay attention. Not listening will only hurt the students in the long run, and I can't help that.

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I have been told, to my face, that I'm a terrible teacher, from a student that I was helping all year, and who ended up getting a B. This was the same year that I was nominated for a teaching award.

jimkabrhel

That must have been heartbreaking...But if you're getting nominated for a teaching award, you're doing something right, so I wouldn't worry about him.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I have been told, to my face, that I'm a terrible teacher, from a student that I was helping all year, and who ended up getting a B. This was the same year that I was nominated for a teaching award.

kingkong0124

That must have been heartbreaking...But if you're getting nominated for a teaching award, you're doing something right, so I wouldn't worry about him.

Every teacher, even the best ones will get some negative comments. It is hard not to take them personally, but I've gotten enough positive feedback to know that I'm doing at least a little bit right.

I honestly don't need any awards, as long as I know my students are learning, and I know that many of my students have gone on to succeed.

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#45 whipassmt
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I is a teacher.

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Hey isn't anyone gonna ask me what I teach?

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[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

What types of music do you teach? Any Notorious BIG on the playlist?

whipassmt

My expertise is cIassical, and that's what I teach. We have other people who teach the more recent stuff.

Classical, does that mean like the Chronic album?

lol And no. Well, I teach sh*t to people at work. But would never stand in front of a class.
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#47 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="pianist"]

My expertise is cIassical, and that's what I teach. We have other people who teach the more recent stuff.

MrPraline

Classical, does that mean like the Chronic album?

lol And no. Well, I teach sh*t to people at work. But would never stand in front of a class.

so if not the Chronic what does it mean, MoTown, the Sugarhill Gang?

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#48 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] Classical, does that mean like the Chronic album?

whipassmt

lol And no. Well, I teach sh*t to people at work. But would never stand in front of a class.

so if not the Chronic what does it mean, MoTown, the Sugarhill Gang?

Oh the no was to "do you teach". I'm not sure what pianist teaches. If I recall correctly from a 100 years ago he likes Brahms. Chronic is certainly a classic though.
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#49 KiIIyou
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I like teaching people my science.
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#50 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Hey guys. Any of you folks teachers? Planning to become one ? What do you (plan to) teach? Are you a difficult or less rigorous teacher? What is the workload you give your students? Best and worst experiences? What are the aspects you enjoy the most/least? Any particular stories from that may be of interest? Anywho, discuss. Above questions need not be answered specifically, just a guideline for discussion. pianist

I teach music at college. I push my students hard, but only after establishing a good rapport with them and spending some time helping them understand WHY they have to work so hard. It's college, so they always have something on the go for me, but much of it is self-directed or project-based, rather than fill-in-the-blank assignments, which I frankly feel have little educational value beyond helping develop work ethic. I've had no bad experiences - seriously. I have the right temperament and a talent for instruction, and so I consistently get great reviews from both my students and colleagues that far exceed both my department and institution's overall instructor ratings. Moreover, both I and my students seem to enjoy the experience.

I least enjoy the administrative aspect of instruction. Meetings, organizing, paper pushing... all a bunch of crap that gets in the way of actually teaching. But someone's got to do it. I also dislike the obsessive and overbearing enforcement of PD activities on instructors who have repeatedly proven the quality of their work. I very often feel that there is no trust whatsoever from upper admin that a good instructor will continue to do a good job without jumping through hoops. Or maybe they just need some more paper to be pushed to ensure they aren't deemed expendable. In any event, most of the PD activities I've engaged in are a bunch of nonsense that did nothing to improve my teaching and just wasted my time. It reminds me to be careful in crafting my students' assignments to avoid inflicting the same useless learning experience on them.

Anyways, I like the job a lot. If I need to work, I'd choose this job any day of the week. But I'd also retire at the first opportunity if I hit it big with investments, not because I dislike the teaching, but because I despise the rest of the baggage that comes with it.

what's PD?