Absolving rape victims of all responsibility. (TL;DR)
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I agree (though what does the "TL; DR" mean?). I guess another analogy would be a soldier not taking proper care of his rifle (cleaning it, etc.), and then if his squad get's attacked, his gun might not fire properly and he might get hit (or a squadmate could get hit). People have to realize that there are consequences to their actions and they should think things through and prepare.
Also I liked your point about drinking and passing out at a party. Another thing I would advise people against is going to a date with someone you meet online in a private place (say the person's house) rather than some place where there are a lot of people (say a restaurant).
Now to clarify, I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.wubikroYou mean like "legitimate" rape?
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Aljosa23
Have I gone back in time where we think it's because of clothes that rape occurs? :|LJS9502_basic
Actually the funny thing is that rapists do tend to take clothing into account, however it isn't whether the clothes are too sexy or whatever, but rather, how easy it will be to get them off, so tend to avoid women wearing belts and will go after women wearing loose fitting sweatpants, dresses, and what not.
Clothes don't cause the rape, but influences who the rapist will target.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Have I gone back in time where we think it's because of clothes that rape occurs? :|GummiRaccoon
Actually the funny thing is that rapists do tend to take clothing into account, however it isn't whether the clothes are too sexy or whatever, but rather, how easy it will be to get them off, so tend to avoid women wearing belts and will go after women wearing loose fitting sweatpants, dresses, and what not.
Clothes don't cause the rape, but influences who the rapist will target.
Yeah....I'm going with you just pulled that out of your ass.Around 70% of (non-prison) rape cases happen with the rapist being a friend, a relative, or a former boy/girlfriend. The specific scenarios you are describing are the minority and fairly rare. Most rapes occur in homes after being invited.
So to advocate that rape victims shouldn't be absolved of responsibility is a stupid generalization, when most rape victims are not walking around in dark alleys with skirts and expensive jewelery, and is extremely moronic.
This thread is bad, and you should feel bad.
I agree
[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Have I gone back in time where we think it's because of clothes that rape occurs? :|LJS9502_basic
Actually the funny thing is that rapists do tend to take clothing into account, however it isn't whether the clothes are too sexy or whatever, but rather, how easy it will be to get them off, so tend to avoid women wearing belts and will go after women wearing loose fitting sweatpants, dresses, and what not.
Clothes don't cause the rape, but influences who the rapist will target.
Yeah....I'm going with you just pulled that out of your ass.I learned it in a sociology class. Â This isn't the source I got it from but it supports my claim: Â http://womenofcaliber.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/are-you-prey-for-a-rapist-part-i-of-ii/
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I felt like addressing this particular scenario because a lot of people feel the need to absolve all rape victims of all responsibility, even though in certain situations (like this one) there are common sense decisions that could be taken to exponentially reduce someone's chances of being raped, or mugged, or scammed. To reiterate though, I'm not saying we should blame the rape victims for the rape itself or that the rapists are somehow less responsible. The rapists alone are responsible for the rape, and they deserve the death penalty as far as I'm concerned. I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making. Like I said though, each rape case is different and therefore each one should be approached and analyzed differently. I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.While I do find all the bitching about rape painful to read I don't think it was ever referred to schoolgirls who get drunk. Why did you feel like mentioning this particular case?
N30F3N1X
You mean like "legitimate" rape?[QUOTE="wubikro"]Now to clarify, I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.Aljosa23
This thread is dumb
Are you saying that every rape case is the same?Yeah....I'm going with you just pulled that out of your ass.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]
Actually the funny thing is that rapists do tend to take clothing into account, however it isn't whether the clothes are too sexy or whatever, but rather, how easy it will be to get them off, so tend to avoid women wearing belts and will go after women wearing loose fitting sweatpants, dresses, and what not.
Clothes don't cause the rape, but influences who the rapist will target.
GummiRaccoon
I learned it in a sociology class. Â This isn't the source I got it from but it supports my claim: Â http://womenofcaliber.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/are-you-prey-for-a-rapist-part-i-of-ii/
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I hope you didn't get a good grade on that.....
I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making wubikroVictim blaming....disgusting.
[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]I felt like addressing this particular scenario because a lot of people feel the need to absolve allrape victims of all responsibility, even though in certain situations (like this one) there are common sense decisions that could be taken to exponentially reduce someone's chances of being raped, or mugged, or scammed. To reiterate though, I'm not saying we should blame the rape victims for the rape itself or that the rapists are somehow less responsible. The rapists alone are responsible for the rape, and they deserve the death penalty as far as I'm concerned. I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making. Like I said though, each rape case is different and therefore each one should be approached and analyzed differently. I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.While I do find all the bitching about rape painful to read I don't think it was ever referred to schoolgirls who get drunk. Why did you feel like mentioning this particular case?
wubikro
You are contradicting yourself.
Victim blaming....disgusting.its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished.[QUOTE="wubikro"] I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Yeah....I'm going with you just pulled that out of your ass.LJS9502_basic
I learned it in a sociology class. Â This isn't the source I got it from but it supports my claim: Â http://womenofcaliber.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/are-you-prey-for-a-rapist-part-i-of-ii/
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I hope you didn't get a good grade on that.....Â
Got an A. Â
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Do you seriously think that teaching women ways that they can keep themself safe is somehow misogynistic?
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I don't get it, it's like people want to keep women in the dark so that they have perpetual targets on their back. Â
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"No it's cool, go out wearing sweats that are 2 sizes to big, and talk on your cell phone and don't make eye contact with anyone, don't worry about bringing pepper spray either, we'll just teach men to not be rapists"
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If it was just as easy as telling people not to rape, not to abuse people, not to rob or mug that we would have already solved those problems?
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When I go to bad neighborhoods, particularly in san francisco, I make sure not to have my cell phone out, walk with purpose and make sure to look at everyone. Â
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I have a friend that doesn't do this, he was walking to the BART station at balboa park and was on his cell phone, not paying attention, he was greeted by a man at gunpoint and got mugged, stole his phone, wallet and watch. Â
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I'm not saying that he was to blame for getting mugged, but had someone taught him ways to help keep himself safer he probably wouldn't have been mugged at gunpoint. Â
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming....disgusting.its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished. Then I guess if a drunk driver runs your family over and kills them.....they are partially responsible for being on the road. See how stupid that sounds?[QUOTE="wubikro"] I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making BossPerson
[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then I guess if a drunk driver runs your family over and kills them.....they are partially responsible for being on the road. See how stupid that sounds?LJS9502_basicNo....because its unreasonable to assume that there's a high probability of harm coming to you for simply driving on the road. On the other hand, its not unreasonable to assume a high probablity of harm (either harassment to theft to rape) by walking through a group of thugs/low lifes while showing a lot of skin or wearing a rolex. Victim blaming.....like I said. Walking around with a rolex watch should in no way mean you deserve to be robbed. But that is what you are advocating. The person committing criminal acts is solely responsible for said acts. This is such a ridiculous argument. I thought you were more leveled headed than that.where did i say you deserve to get robbed or deserve to get raped for putting yourself in a bad situation. I simply said you should be called stupid. Im not defering any responsibility from the rapist/thief
btw, i didnt delete the post because im ashamed of it, but because glitchspot
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished. BossPersonThen I guess if a drunk driver runs your family over and kills them.....they are partially responsible for being on the road. See how stupid that sounds?No....because its unreasonable to assume that there's a high probability of harm coming to you for simply driving on the road. On the other hand, its not unreasonable to assume a high probablity of harm (either harassment to theft to rape) by walking through a group of thugs/low lifes while showing a lot of skin or wearing a rolex.
May I ask, how would an innocent young girl be able to indentify a group of thugs/low lifes on the street? What do they look like?
i agreeBossPerson
I bet you want things to be like some muslims countries where the victim goes to jail too.
Victim blaming.....like I said. Walking around with a rolex watch should in no way mean you deserve to be robbed. But that is what you are advocating. The person committing criminal acts is solely responsible for said acts. This is such a ridiculous argument. I thought you were more leveled headed than that.where did i say you deserve to get robbed or deserve to get raped for putting yourself in a bad situation. I simply said you should be called stupid. Im not defering any responsibility from the rapist/thief[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]No....because its unreasonable to assume that there's a high probability of harm coming to you for simply driving on the road. On the other hand, its not unreasonable to assume a high probablity of harm (either harassment to theft to rape) by walking through a group of thugs/low lifes while showing a lot of skin or wearing a rolex. BossPerson
btw, i didnt delete the post because im ashamed of it, but because glitchspot
If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation.BossPersonThis is victim blaming. And it's disgusting.
[QUOTE="wubikro"]...abunchofdumbbullshit...worlock77
You sir, are an idiot.
Because I feel people should be held culpable for their actions? The rapists alone are responsible for the rape, but who's responsible for the victim willingly getting intoxicated past the point of consciousness in a room full of people they hardly know? Doesn't mean the person is asking or deserves to get raped, but they're putting themselves into a position where their chances of being raped are exponentially higher than normal. My argument doesn't apply to rape either. If you walk down a bad neighborhood at night while wearing expensive clothing and jewelry, the thief is solely to blame if you get mugged, but you're responsible for putting yourself into that position of vulnerability. If you click on a Nigerian scam email and you give them your financial information, the one scamming you is responsible for the scam, but you're responsible for putting yourself into that position of vulnerability. All of these have something in common, they could've been avoided with common sense decisions. But like I said, I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.No I'm not, you're selectively quoting my post to make it seem as if I am. I said the rapist is responsible for the rape alone, and that in this scenario, the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability. Are you unable to make the distinction between the two?You are contradicting yourself.
worlock77
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming....disgusting.its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished.[QUOTE="wubikro"] I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making BossPerson
And the people that agree with the TC must be complete and utter morons; The specific scenarios that he describes are so comically rare as to not even be worth the time to discuss.
Cases of rape occuring from a woman walking in revealing clothing are non-issues. Rape is rarely ever about sexual attraction to the victiim. It wouldn't have mattered what they were wearing in the first place.
its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished.[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming....disgusting.
XaosII
And the people that agree with the TC must be complete and utter morons; The specific scenarios that he describes are so comically rare as to not even be worth the time to discuss.
Cases of rape occuring from a woman walking in revealing clothing are non-issues. Rape is rarely ever about sexual attraction to the victiim. It wouldn't have mattered what they were wearing in the first place.
OT never gets that fact.its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished.[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming....disgusting.
XaosII
And the people that agree with the TC must be complete and utter morons; The specific scenarios that he describes are so comically rare as to not even be worth the time to discuss.
Cases of rape occuring from a woman walking in revealing clothing are non-issues. Rape is rarely ever about sexual attraction to the victiim. It wouldn't have mattered what they were wearing in the first place.
well im taking about those specific scenarios. Obviously im not talking about rape by family members, clergy, etc. Im not insane.Victim blaming.....like I said. Walking around with a rolex watch should in no way mean you deserve to be robbed. But that is what you are advocating. The person committing criminal acts is solely responsible for said acts. This is such a ridiculous argument. I thought you were more leveled headed than that.where did i say you deserve to get robbed or deserve to get raped for putting yourself in a bad situation. I simply said you should be called stupid. Im not defering any responsibility from the rapist/thief[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]No....because its unreasonable to assume that there's a high probability of harm coming to you for simply driving on the road. On the other hand, its not unreasonable to assume a high probablity of harm (either harassment to theft to rape) by walking through a group of thugs/low lifes while showing a lot of skin or wearing a rolex. BossPerson
btw, i didnt delete the post because im ashamed of it, but because glitchspot
Is Glitchspot why it was edited to say something completely different from what LJS's post shows before it was deleted?
[QUOTE="BossPerson"]i agreeStorm_Marine
I bet you want things to be like some muslims countries where the victim goes to jail too.
read my posts in this thread. People are misunderstanding my position.where did i say you deserve to get robbed or deserve to get raped for putting yourself in a bad situation. I simply said you should be called stupid. Im not defering any responsibility from the rapist/thief[QUOTE="BossPerson"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming.....like I said. Walking around with a rolex watch should in no way mean you deserve to be robbed. But that is what you are advocating. The person committing criminal acts is solely responsible for said acts. This is such a ridiculous argument. I thought you were more leveled headed than that.worlock77
btw, i didnt delete the post because im ashamed of it, but because glitchspot
Is Glitchspot why it was edited to say something completely different from what LJS's post shows before it was deleted?
i though i was writing a new post, but i was editiing it instead. I couldnt get back to my old text....[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]i agreeBossPerson
I bet you want things to be like some muslims countries where the victim goes to jail too.
read my posts in this thread. People are misunderstanding my position.nah i was joking
I get what BossPerson means but isn't exactly in good taste to tell a rape victim that "you should have been more careful".
[QUOTE="worlock77"]Because I feel people should be held culpable for their actions? The rapists alone are responsible for the rape, but who's responsible for the victim willingly getting intoxicated past the point of consciousness in a room full of people they hardly know? Doesn't mean the person is asking or deserves to get raped, but they're putting themselves into a position where their chances of being raped are exponentially higher than normal. My argument doesn't apply to rape either. If you walk down a bad neighborhood at night while wearing expensive clothing and jewelry, the thief is solely to blame if you get mugged, but you're responsible for putting yourself into that position of vulnerability. If you click on a Nigerian scam email and you give them your financial information, the one scamming you is responsible for the scam, but you're responsible for putting yourself into that position of vulnerability. All of these have something in common, they could've been avoided with common sense decisions. But like I said, I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.[QUOTE="wubikro"]
You sir, are an idiot.
wubikro
No I'm not, you're selectively quoting my post to make it seem as if I am. I said the rapist is responsible for the rape alone, and that in this scenario, the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability. Are you unable to make the distinction between the two?You are contradicting yourself.
worlock77
I did not selectively quote you. I quoted your post as is and highlighted the parts where you contradict yourself. If the rapist alone is responsible for the rape then there is no responsibility to absolve the victim of or hold them accountable too. You're simply trying to have it both ways. You want to blame the victim, but you want it to not sound like you're blaming the victime. Accept that this is a stupid thread and a moronic line of thought and move on.
[QUOTE="worlock77"]Because I feel people should be held culpable for their actions? The rapists alone are responsible for the rape, but who's responsible for the victim willingly getting intoxicated past the point of consciousness in a room full of people they hardly know? Doesn't mean the person is asking or deserves to get raped, but they're putting themselves into a position where their chances of being raped are exponentially higher than normal. My argument doesn't apply to rape either. If you walk down a bad neighborhood at night while wearing expensive clothing and jewelry, the thief is solely to blame if you get mugged, but you're responsible for putting yourself into that position of vulnerability. If you click on a Nigerian scam email and you give them your financial information, the one scamming you is responsible for the scam, but you're responsible for putting yourself into that position of vulnerability. All of these have something in common, they could've been avoided with common sense decisions. But like I said, I'm only applying my argument to certain cases of rape, not all of them.[QUOTE="wubikro"]
You sir, are an idiot.
wubikro
No I'm not, you're selectively quoting my post to make it seem as if I am. I said the rapist is responsible for the rape alone, and that in this scenario, the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability. Are you unable to make the distinction between the two?You are contradicting yourself.
worlock77
Honestly, I am from the camp of "teach women how to avoid becoming victims". Â If you truly want to blame someone for a girl not taking precautions for protecting herself, it is entirely her parents fault, especially if she is underage.
If a woman is going somewhere alone at night, she should be aware of her surroundings, have pepper spray handy, stc.
If a woman is going to a party, she should not let anyone handle her drinks but herself and never leave them unattended. Â This helps in 2 ways, 1) She isn't going to become as intoxicated if she has to get up and get her own drink, 2) it prevents people from drugging her drink
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But your desire to keep saying they are to blame for being raped makes me think you are from some muslim country.
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Women are not culpable for their own rapes. Â However their safety is their own responsibilty (and that of people who raised her). Â teach women before something bad happens, don't call them stupid after it does.
Agreed.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming....disgusting.its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished. I don't look at this as "victim blaming", I see it as advice. There is nothing wrong with educating people about how to reduce their risk of rape, sexual assault or types of harm.[QUOTE="wubikro"] I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making BossPerson
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Victim blaming....disgusting.its not exactly victim blaming, as in the victim should be punished. If a girl walked through a group of gangbangers (no pun intended) wearing a mini skirt and a low cut shirt, she has some responsibility for the rape simply because she put herself in such a bad situation. The people who disagree with TC must think that all men can be made into angels who will all respect women and such, but that is never going to happen. If someone can be called stupid for walking through a favela wearing gold chains and a rolex watch and getting robbed, then I dont see why a woman couldnt be called stupid for walking through a group of sketchy/aggressive low life men and then getting raped or assaulted. Obviously this shouldnt take away any of the punishment or blame on the man, and it shouldnt mean the girl should get punished. Exactly.[QUOTE="wubikro"] I'm just saying that in certain situations (not every situation) the rape victim is partially responsible for putting themselves into a position of vulnerability due to a lack of common sense decision making BossPerson
In a world where anyone you meet could be a threat to you and your safety, its important to be careful and be responsible. I'm not necessarily saying that wearing a revealing outfit is being "irresponsible," but sometimes (and I really stress sometimes) you have to really think about what you're wearing and if it could make you an "easy target" like leaving your car unlocked would. I don't necessarily think it can be an outfit alone that can cause someone to become a target, but if you do decide to wear something provocative then make sure you are always careful of what you are doing, what you are eating/drinking, and who you are with. This of course applies to people who dress in normal clothes to a party/etc, but I feel these should apply especially to anyone who wants to be showy. With great power comes great responsibility.I get what BossPerson means but isn't exactly in good taste to tell a rape victim that "you should have been more careful".
Aljosa23
nobody is saying that you have to tell them anything. Like I said, I dont think that making stupid decisions about your safety around criminals should result in you gettin punished or the offender getting leniency. and of course i am not talking about rapes between family members or clergy. I didnt realized that most of the rapes that occur dont occur under the circumstances that TC described.I get what BossPerson means but isn't exactly in good taste to tell a rape victim that "you should have been more careful".
Aljosa23
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Have I gone back in time where we think it's because of clothes that rape occurs? :|GummiRaccoon
Actually the funny thing is that rapists do tend to take clothing into account, however it isn't whether the clothes are too sexy or whatever, but rather, how easy it will be to get them off, so tend to avoid women wearing belts and will go after women wearing loose fitting sweatpants, dresses, and what not.
Clothes don't cause the rape, but influences who the rapist will target.
Also I would say shoe-choice could influence the possibility of a woman being raped or sexually assaulted. I remember reading about some uproar in Britain about a comment relating to a dress and high heels and rape.Women should be wary that high heels do impede their ability to run away.
[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Have I gone back in time where we think it's because of clothes that rape occurs? :|whipassmt
Actually the funny thing is that rapists do tend to take clothing into account, however it isn't whether the clothes are too sexy or whatever, but rather, how easy it will be to get them off, so tend to avoid women wearing belts and will go after women wearing loose fitting sweatpants, dresses, and what not.
Clothes don't cause the rape, but influences who the rapist will target.
Also I would say shoe-choice could influence the possibility of a woman being raped or sexually assaulted. I remember reading about some uproar in Britain about a comment relating to a dress and high heels and rape.Women should be wary that high heels do impede their ability to run away.
High heels are horrible and women should never wear them anyway. Â they are bad for her body, they are bad for her feet, and yes they make her more vulnerable.
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