Classic Album Nomination #96: College Dropout

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#1 elpooz
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Kanye West - The College Dropout

Producer Kanye West's highlight reels were stacking up exponentially when his solo debut for Roc-a-Fella was released, after numerous delays and a handful of suspense-building underground mixes. The week The College Dropout came out, three singles featuring his handiwork were in the Top 20, including his own "Through the Wire." A daring way to introduce himself to the masses as an MC, the enterprising West recorded the song during his recovery from a car wreck that nearly took his life — while his jaw was wired shut. Heartbreaking and hysterical ("There's been an accident like Geico/They thought I was burnt up like Pepsi did Michael"), and wrapped around the helium chirp of the pitched-up chorus from Chaka Khan's "Through the Fire," the song and accompanying video couldn't have forged his dual status as underdog and champion any better. All of this momentum keeps rolling through The College Dropout, an album that's nearly as phenomenal as the boastful West has led everyone to believe. The bad points? A few too many skits, "The New Workout Plan," and the fact that the triumph that is "Through the Wire" is de-emphasized and placed so deep into the album that it's almost anticlimactic. Apart from this? Abundant hotness in every aspect. From a production standpoint, nothing here tops recent conquests like Alicia Keys' "You Don't Know My Name" or Talib Kweli's "Get By," but he's consistently potent and tempers his familiar characteristics — high-pitched soul samples, gospel elements — by tweaking them and not using them as a crutch. Even though those with their ears to the street knew West could excel as an MC, he has used this album as an opportunity to prove his less-known skills to a wider audience. One of the most poignant moments is on "All Falls Down," where the self-effacing West examines self-consciousness in the context of his community: "Rollies and Pashas done drive me crazy/I can't even pronounce nothing, yo pass the Versacey/Then I spent 400 bucks on this just to be like '***** you ain't up on this'." If the notion that the album runs much deeper than the singles isn't enough, there's something of a surprising bonus: rather puzzlingly, a slightly adjusted mix of "Slow Jamz" — a side-splitting ode to legends of baby-making soul that originally appeared on Twista's Kamikaze, just before that MC received his own Roc-a-Fella chain — also appears. Prior to this album, we were more than aware that West's stature as a producer was undeniable; now we know that he's also a remarkably versatile lyricist and a valuable MC.

 - Allmusic.

I personally don't know which side of the fence I'm on, but I think this album deserves a nomination, simply because of how critically acclaimed, popular, and memorable it is. In a few years we will look back to the year Blu and Exile dropped and probably nominate Below The Heavens, just because of how memorable it is and how well received it was. This is the same. When you look back to 2004, you think of CD as one of that year's most defining albums (among other things of course). I'll add my vote later... gonna give it spins at works and come to a decision.

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#2 fat_rob
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YES
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Hell yes, I absolutely love this album and with songs like Two Words and Spaceship how can I deny this album that status.

I still listen to it very often

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#4 Magna_Man109
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Yes indeed.
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#5 andyboiii
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my vote is yes

I don't see this album ever getting old for me. The only track I disliked was workout plan. Definitely a modern day classic 

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#6 mischa_barton
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nope.
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I'm with them.
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#8 X-Fade
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Yes
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#9 Foolz3h
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Yessir. It's just got that cIassic feel!
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#10 iHeartCali
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Nope, definitely some gems here and there, but there are more 'good' to 'average' songs than 'dope' songs. But this is one of Kanye's best works.
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#11 elpooz
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Yes - 8

No - 1

Bumping it now.

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#12 -Halftime-
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Not a chance
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#13 Agnidev
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Hell no, TOO many skits.
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#14 elpooz
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^ Yeah right... the skits give it substance and really add to the overall atmosphere...

I'm going with yes....

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Absolutely.
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#16 Demonic_Jin
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Didn't we have a vote on this album already?

Anyway, no. I never got the fuss over this album, its good, but it doesn't have that timeless quality that classics should have.

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#17 CiscoKidd409
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Easy yes for me and easily Kanye's best album. I'd name the dope tracks on there, but I might as well name the whole album. Ye delivered some dope lines, production was top notch, and the guest appearances were good to, not to many and they were all good. I was just recently jamming Spaceship again like it was a new song(maybe cause they randomly released a video for it a month or so ago) but yeah this is Kanye lyrically at his best imo.
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#18 cmpepper23
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Yes if not just for the fact that it's his best album, but also because it has my fave Kanye song "Get Em High". Dope track, dope album, CLASSIC...
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#19 DaTiger_basic
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Nope.
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#20 189245455704665724390135605497
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it's a near classic for me so no, like someone else said too many skits
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#21 HerbertdaPerv
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Too early.

 

 

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#22 elpooz
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Yes - 12

No - 7

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#23 DeadQwon
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Yus.
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#24 elpooz
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13 - 7... /thread?
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#25 fat_rob
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13 - 7... /thread?elpooz
nope...too close
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#26 planetshhh
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hmmmmmm, i'll say YES.
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#27 Toriko42
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Now that the yes is double the no is it done :P
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#28 Anti-Venom
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This will NEVER be a classic....its a No for me
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]13 - 7... /thread?fat_rob
nope...too close

What are the rules to determine if an album makes the cut or not? Is it a 2/3s majority or what? 

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#30 elpooz
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Yes - 14

No - 8

 

CM.. there have to be atleast 10 yes votes, and then more yes votes for it to be classic. 

So 10 yes, 11 no, is not classic.

10 yes, 9 no, is a classic.

20 yes, 15 no, is a classic.

15 yes, 20 no, is not a classic.

Follow the examples and i'll think you get it...

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#31 fat_rob
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a lot of peeps ain't voted in this one though and this is a popular album...so it might be a good idea to wait
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#32 Proobie44
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Yes, all the way.
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#33 Apocalypse33
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why not
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#34 damelokidd124
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Sure
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#35 JML897
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It looks like it's just about over now, but I'm going to say no anyway. Good but not a classic.
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#36 cmpepper23
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Yes - 14

No - 8

 

CM.. there have to be atleast 10 yes votes, and then more yes votes for it to be classic. 

So 10 yes, 11 no, is not classic.

10 yes, 9 no, is a classic.

20 yes, 15 no, is a classic.

15 yes, 20 no, is not a classic.

Follow the examples and i'll think you get it...

elpooz

Yea, you had me with the first sentence...I'm not mentally challenged. 

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#37 ghostphantom563
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No.
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Yes - 14

No - 8

CM.. there have to be atleast 10 yes votes, and then more yes votes for it to be classic. 

elpooz

There only needs to be 10 votes total, not 10 yes votes. That's just to prevent an album that no one has listened to from being voted in/out with a count of 2 yes 1 no or something along those lines.

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#39 Ryder004
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how is this a classic?

 

 

NO

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#40 Toriko42
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how is this a classic?

Ryder004

Cause of songs like...

Spaceship
Two Words
Family Business
Slow Jamz
All Falls Down
Never Let Me Down
We Don't Care
My Way

And why not

Jesus Walks

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[QUOTE="Ryder004"]

how is this a classic?

Toriko42

Cause of songs like...

Spaceship
Two Words
Family Business
Slow Jamz
All Falls Down
Never Let Me Down
We Don't Care
My Way

And why not

Jesus Walks

sorry but most of those are wack as ****...well to some of us anyway

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Ryder004"]

how is this a classic?

Anti-Venom

Cause of songs like...

Spaceship
Two Words
Family Business
Slow Jamz
All Falls Down
Never Let Me Down
We Don't Care
My Way

And why not

Jesus Walks

sorry but most of those are wack as ****...well to some of us anyway

I'll pretend I never read that and just keep smiling :D
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Ryder004"]

how is this a classic?

Anti-Venom

Cause of songs like...

Spaceship
Two Words
Family Business
Slow Jamz
All Falls Down
Never Let Me Down
We Don't Care
My Way

And why not

Jesus Walks

sorry but most of those are wack as ****...well to some of us anyway

Please explain your opinion. I always see you on here bashing different artists/songs with no reasoning of why of you feel that way. Also "Get Em High" should be on that list. 

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[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"][QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Ryder004"]

how is this a classic?

cmpepper23

Cause of songs like...

Spaceship
Two Words
Family Business
Slow Jamz
All Falls Down
Never Let Me Down
We Don't Care
My Way

And why not

Jesus Walks

sorry but most of those are wack as ****...well to some of us anyway

Please explain your opinion. I always see you on here bashing different artists/songs with no reasoning of why of you feel that way. Also "Get Em High" should be on that list.

wack as **** is pretty self explanitory

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Yeah people forget about Get Em High and that's one of the best tracks off the album.  Talib Kweli, Common, and Kanye all rip it

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#46 cmpepper23
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wack as *** is pretty self explanitory

Anti-Venom

Not really, but if you feel justified then whatever. Maybe you are just incapable of putting your opinions into words because there is no substance to them thus implying you just spurt out random crap with no thought put into it. 

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#47 Anti-Venom
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[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]

wack as *** is pretty self explanitory

cmpepper23

Not really, but if you feel justified then whatever. Maybe you are just incapable of putting your opinions into words because there is no substance to them thus implying you just spurt out random crap with no thought put into it.


:lol: yea thats it....why do you care so much?

Ive done that here in the past, Ive made a thread about WHY I think Lil Wayne aint **** for example. It was extremley detailed....but did that change anyone elses opinions.....NOPE....why? Cuz nobody gives a ****....

I don't have to sit here and type a novel explaining why I think this Kanye album is wack to you.

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#48 Toriko42
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Yeah because unlike your Lil Wayne thread this is the place to discuss why you think it's whack, we're here cause we wanna know why or why not it's a classic.
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#49 cmpepper23
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:lol: yea thats it....why do you care so much?

Ive done that here in the past, Ive made a thread about WHY I think Lil Wayne aint **** for example. It was extremley detailed....but did that change anyone elses opinions.....NOPE....why? Cuz nobody gives a ****....

I don't have to sit here and type a novel explaining why I think this Kanye album is wack to you.

Anti-Venom

 

I'm not asking for a novel. I would just like to hear why you think it's wack. Simple as that. A few sentences or small paragraph would suffice. I'm not aksing you to change the opinion of me or anyone else but rather elaborate on yours. 

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#50 mynameisohyes
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Hi... I'm new here... this place seem pretty cool....

anyway... i read some a lot of the messages on here and it looks like a good place for hip-hop discussion. just joined a little while a go though... like 5 minutes ago. friend told me to make an account for this site... so yeah i did and it looks like this place is worth it. i dunno if i should vote or not... don't really know if i think this is classic or whatever. i think it got in though... becasuse there like 17 people said yes and like 9 said no...