why hasn't there a metroid game for the DS yet? hunter and pinbal don't count

With Gameboy Advance, we have Metroid Zero Mission and Metroid Fusion. On the DS, we have two metroid games that has nothing to do with the metroid formula gameplay. What is Nintendo's reason they don't want to release a metroid game that follow the metroid gameplay formula? Zero mission and Fusion didn't sell? Is that why?

With Gameboy Advance, we have Metroid Zero Mission and Metroid Fusion. On the DS, we have two metroid games that has nothing to do with the metroid formula gameplay. What is Nintendo's reason they don't want to release a metroid game that follow the metroid gameplay formula? Zero mission and Fusion didn't sell? Is that why?

nchan

I don't see why hunters doesn't count. Nintendo hasn't been devolping the Metroid games themselves and other teams would rather work on consoles

I don't see why hunters doesn't count. Nintendo hasn't been devolping the Metroid games themselves and other teams would rather work on consoles

Cruse34

Because despite reality, Nintendo thinks fans want another idiotic 3D Metroid.

Because despite reality, Nintendo thinks fans want another idiotic 3D Metroid.

HisuroKun

I wasn't a fan of Hunters, but it was made due to the success of the home console Prime games. Which makes sense. Fusion and Zero Mission just weren't popular enough, although I personally loved them. They go with what's popular, which is what every successful business does.

pretty sure hunters count. well it's just too late now to get a new metroid on the DS, better luck next gen.BrunoBRS

but whymake a 2D game when your trying to sell 3D effects?

Because despite reality, Nintendo thinks fans want another idiotic 3D Metroid.

HisuroKun

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]pretty sure hunters count. well it's just too late now to get a new metroid on the DS, better luck next gen.Cruse34

but whymake a 2D game when your trying to sell 3D effects?

Meh, some great DS games barely found the need for the second screen let alone the touchscreen.forgot_it

True, but I think the second screen was pretty useful in the Castlevania games for the DS, since it showed you the map/menu on one screen all the time, which is helpful in an exploration-based game with lots of areas to explore and some back-tracking required once you get new abilities to explore the previously unreachable areas, otherwise it would be a lot harder to figure out where you are and where you need to go next. I imagine if a 2-D Metroid game was made for the DS it would use the second screen in a similar way to how the Castlevania DS games used it, as a map/menu that allows you to see where you are and what skills/items your character has equipped. To answer the thread creator's question, I'm not really sure why no 2-D Metroid games were created for the DS, I loved the Castlevania games in this style on the DS and thought they made good use of the system's dual screens, so it's a shame we didn't get to experience any new 2-D Metroid games on the platform. Perhaps the issue of popularity (or lack thereof) of the Metroid Prime games vs. the "traditional" 2-D Metroid games was what made Nintendo decide to make Metroid Prime Hunters and not a 2-D Metroid game. Although that still doesn't entirely explain things, it has been a good four years since Metroid Prime Hunters was released, surely Nintendo could have made another Metroid game in that timespan and appealed to both the 3-D and 2-D Metroid crowds (and I don't think the development of Metroid: Other M during that period of time necessarily has to mean that a handheld Metroid couldn't be developed simultaneously (we see this happen with The Legend of Zelda and Mario games all the time), so I'm not sure what their reasoning was.)

If they remade Super Metroid for the DS I'd definitely get it.

How does hunter not count?

Its called Metroid Prime Hunters.

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]Meh, some great DS games barely found the need for the second screen let alone the touchscreen.Alex_Thomson

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Because despite what total Super Metroid fanboys think, Metroid Prime is the best Metroid game of all time, and revolutionized the series by successfully taking all the classic elements of the previous games and mixing them together with FPS gameplay.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Fusion, and Super Metroid too, and I am sure there will be more sidescrolling acventure Metroid games in the future. Perhaps the 3D capabilities of the 3DS would make for an interesting Metroid game. But Metroid Prime games are fantastic, and if it weren't for Metroid Prime then the series wouldn't have enjoyed the current revitalization that it has now.

The Pinball rules, though.

Yeah, I always wanted a 2D metroid game for DS. Zero Mission is one of my favorite GBA games.

Though Metroid Prime is also great, Hunters isn't even much like those games, and I didn't like it much. Pinball is nice spinoff though, lol.

How does hunter not count?

Gezo24

[QUOTE="Gezo24"]

How does hunter not count?

red_sovereign

It doesn't count because it's not a traditional Metroid game. It hardly has any aspects that defines a Metroid game aside from the Character and style.

It hardly has any aspects that defines a Metroid game aside from the Character and style.

lazyathew

[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

It hardly has any aspects that defines a Metroid game aside from the Character and style.

BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

It hardly has any aspects that defines a Metroid game aside from the Character and style.

lazyathew

It's kind of like comparing a Mario platformer to a Mario sports game. It stars the same characters, it has a similar style and exists in the same universe. But they clearly have a different feel. And I know that the games in my example are far more different than Hunters and other Metroid games, but the same logic applies. Although it really depends on what you consider to be the defining qualities of a Metroid game.

Obviously, the game is a Metroid game since it has Metroid in the title. Just like Mario Kart is clearly a Mario game. But where do you draw the lineof what counts and what doens't when someone asks you to recommend a game from that series? If someone asks for a Mario game, would you recommend Mario Tennis? You would probably only include platformers unless he asked for a Mario sports game. But where the line is drawn varies from person to person. So Bruno, try to be a bit more respectful. I myself only include Hunters in the category of spin-off Metroid games, just like Metroid Pinball.

Some people came into the Metroid games via "Metroid Prime", which to those of us who had been breaking our thumbs on the original titles looked about as "correct" as the 3D treatments of "Castlevania", or in the case of Mario, going from "Mario Bros 3" to "Mario N64" - suddenly it's abut a 3D world instead of a 2D world. I went on to play "Prime" and have elected it as possibly my favorite video game of all time, but at first, the treatment seemed anathema to the series.

I understand where the OP doesn't consider "Hunters" to be truly in the pantheon, and I see the point of saying "well, why not?"

It all depends on when you came to the series... I hate it when people say RE4 is a more "Resident Evil" game than the first one... to me, it makes no sense and I think they're being short-sighted, but I guess you gotta respect other gamers' views at times. I classify "Hunters" in the "Prime" universe and not in the original Metroid. Agree to disagree, everyone.

And "Hunters" was dung. Either way.

:lol:

Some people came into the Metroid games via "Metroid Prime", which to those of us who had been breaking our thumbs on the original titles looked about as "correct" as the 3D treatments of "Castlevania", or in the case of Mario, going from "Mario Bros 3" to "Mario N64" - suddenly it's abut a 3D world instead of a 2D world. I went on to play "Prime" and have elected it as possibly my favorite video game of all time, but at first, the treatment seemed anathema to the series.

I understand where the OP doesn't consider "Hunters" to be truly in the pantheon, and I see the point of saying "well, why not?"

It all depends on when you came to the series... I hate it when people say RE4 is a more "Resident Evil" game than the first one... to me, it makes no sense and I think they're being short-sighted, but I guess you gotta respect other gamers' views at times. I classify "Hunters" in the "Prime" universe and not in the original Metroid. Agree to disagree, everyone.

And "Hunters" was dung. Either way.

:lol:

MonkeySpot

That was pretty much the point of my last post really. Not sure how well the message came across, I was on my way out the door when I posted it, so it was a bit rushed. :P I'm not really arguing whether Hunters should be counted or not, only that each view makes sense. What prompted the post was that Bruno was simply being rude and ignorant of opposing view points. Saying that people should "face it" and accept his opinion. Like I said, everyone draws the line at a different place. And we should respect that we each view the franchise in a different way.

i know some are VERY finicky when it comes to metroid, but hunters feels just as genuine as an of the prime games to me. the multi-player was executed marvelously and you still had the adventuring the old school gamers were accustomed to...BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. in fact, where the hell is HUNTERS 2:P