Tales of Symphonia: DOTNW IGN Review

http://wii.ign.com/articles/928/928479p2.html

The real-time battle system is fun, but slogging through hours and hours of awkward dialogue in an on-rails undertaking isn't. Dawn's visuals are sufficient, but don't look like anything that couldn't have been done on the GameCube. Being the only RPG on the Wii's horizon, this doesn't feel like a relief -- it feels rather depressing.

Ouch!

That's definitely lower than I expected, but I'm not completely surprised.

Oh well, I'm sure it won't affect the die-hards.

Im now debating if i should get it or not.alexh_99

There is always room on the Dokapon Kingdom wagon if that still interests you.

Still, most of the complaints are things that aren't even real. The graphics show off the monsters, which have their own set of AI and act differently than human models; That alone is beefier than what was possible on Gamecube in 2003. And for them to call this the only rpg on Wii is appalling.

Lets go Carnival Games on their outdated hinies and prove them wrong once again.

Not a good score. I must say that was a very poorly written review imo, it didn't even mention any comparison to Vesperia or talk in detail at all about the battle system. Gonna rent it myself and be the judge.Bigboi500

Same here.

The review seemed kind of unprofessional.

Hopefully Gamespot will take the time to review it. 

Another great reason why I dont care for reviews anymore.-Oath

I was waiting for you to see this.

You of all people would know if the score is accurate or not. 

I dont know why he scored it that low... The whole review it felt like he was nitpicking on minor details...

Another great reason why I dont care for reviews anymore.-Oath

I'll still be getting this regardless, but I'd like to have an idea of what I'm getting myself into.

I remember the Fire Emblem IGN review, the game has the same faults that this one, but still it scored higher.

[QUOTE="-Oath"]Another great reason why I dont care for reviews anymore.nintendofreak_2

I'll still be getting this regardless, but I'd like to have an idea of what I'm getting myself into.

Well, Im definately enjoying it. While I cant read the story because of my total lack of japanese (yeah, I know, pretty dumb), the games presentation, visuals and scenes undoubtedly look how a ToS sequel should look. The gameplay is same ol' Tales formula so dont worry about that, same story/progression formula as well. Nothing entirely new here but the story and controls and the controls are only annoying when your first getting the hang of them.

You of all people would know if the score is accurate or not. 

AlexSays

Not entirely, but IMHO this game succeeds big time, so IGN needs to either revise their review or shove it.

Wow. A bit surprising, to say the least.

Whatever. It's not going to stop me from getting it. 

He docked the Tales game for being too much like a Tales games.CuDDKiDD

Exactly.

The biggest killer here is that the reviewers can point to this year's Tales game when reviewing last year's version and ask why they were released out of order.

The answer to that is proportional to how much money Microsoft paid for the English Translation.

He docked the Tales game for being too much like a Tales games.CuDDKiDD

Sadly, it looks like IGN may do the same butchering to Animal Crossing: City Folk next week. I wasn't expecting to pick these up until later, but now I'm starting to have second thoughts. I hope Sonic Unleashed turns out good.

Still buying, since I'm such a big fan of the first.

And BTW, I had already posted this in the hype/info thread;) 

[QUOTE="CuDDKiDD"]He docked the Tales game for being too much like a Tales games.Super-Mario-Fan

Sadly, it looks like IGN may do the same butchering to Animal Crossing: City Folk next week. I wasn't expecting to pick these up until later, but now I'm starting to have second thoughts. I hope Sonic Unleashed turns out good.

Still buying, since I'm such a big fan of the first.

And BTW, I had already posted this in the hype/info thread;) 

TAKE_IT_BACK

Sorry for that, I wanted to share it because the review is ridiculous

This is blashphemy!!!

But seriously :|....this game is awesome, how can they review it like this?....that's like if someone where to give Ocarina of Time an 8....well at least that's how I see it :P.

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]Another great reason why I dont care for reviews anymore.-Oath

I'll still be getting this regardless, but I'd like to have an idea of what I'm getting myself into.

Well, Im definately enjoying it. While I cant read the story because of my total lack of japanese (yeah, I know, pretty dumb), the games presentation, visuals and scenes undoubtedly look how a ToS sequel should look. The gameplay is same ol' Tales formula so dont worry about that, same story/progression formula as well. Nothing entirely new here but the story and controls and the controls are only annoying when your first getting the hang of them.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

Still buying, since I'm such a big fan of the first.

And BTW, I had already posted this in the hype/info thread;) 

JuarN18

Sorry for that, I wanted to share it because the review is ridiculous

S'okay, I don't mind. 

ill wait for more reviews to roll in. i mean if all of the reviews end up being around 7, then its probably time to rethink your expectations of a perfect game. i wasnt expecting it to be the defining wii rpg experience when i heard they took out the overworld.

plus it seemed like a lot of the complaints were because it didnt do much thats new. i figure that if you liked it last gen, then youll like it now. just dont expect it to reinvent jrpg's or the series. i think its reasonable to demand games that arent derivative. i just wish that this demand was more evenly spread (seriously, western reviewers constantly overlook fps's being carbon copies of one another).

Oh well, I'm sure it won't affect the die-hards.

thebisonx

sure wont

I thought it would get a higher score.

even a broken game like Samba De Amigo scored higher on IGN.. wtf?-Skeletor-

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i was hoping for it to be goodgronk-bonk

Only you can judge if its good or not, no one else.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i was hoping for it to be goodgronk-bonk

Dont worry, IGN reviews have been crappy lately.

ouch

but i dont care, as long as it's tales. but problem is, is the translation that bad? becuz one thing about tales is the excellent story, and if u don't have that, it's really half the fun.

Sounds to me like the reviewer didn't really give it a chance.
I'm not really sticking up for the game, but the sarcasm he used made me sick.dylanmcc

I wouldn't say it's sickening, but I see it too. At one point, he says that while you can travel with many characters, only four are active in battle, and he asks, "What are they doing while we're fighting, I wonder?" Does it matter? Lots of RPGs use this strategy, where several travel with you but only a certain number can be in your party. This game shouldn't be mocked because of something that's a staple in RPGs.

I also don't see much critical thinking in this review. He points out that you can't approach every prop in the game and press A to see what it is. He also points out that there is no overworld and that you're teleported to dungeons for side quests then teleported back. Apparently he doesn't even consider that these staples of RPGs might be completely unnecessary, so the developer took them out in order to keep an already long game from being artificially longer. Will anyone really miss pressing A on every object just to see what the dialogue box says about it ("It's a bookshelf")? Will anyone really miss trekking across a huge overworld just to find a short dungeon with a measly reward? Some people might miss an overworld, granted, but the developer made a conscious decision to take it out. This reviewer complains about the length but also complains about the omission of something that would make it artificially longer. Hmm.

I've also been on a "criticize IGN's reviews" spree recently, so maybe I'm being overly critical. I'm not even that big of a Tales fan, though I did enjoy Symphonia.