Nintendo Charges A Ten Dollar Box Fee For Their Games?

Luigi U is coming out in a few months and people have two options.

Buy the downloadable version for 19.99

Buy the retail version for 29.99

Since this precedent has been made it makes you wonder why Nintendo games are their full retail price in the eShop. Shouldn't all of their games be ten dollars off?

Its a bit odd they were offering a stand alone version... I can't really see many people buying the luigi one without having bought the Mario Bros game first. I wonder if anyone that bought the luigi U version first can buy the Mario Bros U version as dlc for a cheaper price!

That's how it should be anyway. It baffles me when download versions are the same price or more.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]That's how it should be anyway. It baffles me when download versions are the same price or more.Haziqonfire

A heavy cost.  I pay it gladly.

Luigi U is coming out in a few months and people have two options.

Buy the downloadable version for 19.99

Buy the retail version for 29.99

Since this precedent has been made it makes you wonder why Nintendo games are their full retail price in the eShop. Shouldn't all of their games be ten dollars off?

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Luigi U is coming out in a few months and people have two options.

Buy the downloadable version for 19.99

Buy the retail version for 29.99

Since this precedent has been made it makes you wonder why Nintendo games are their full retail price in the eShop. Shouldn't all of their games be ten dollars off?

darksongbird

He never has anything good to say about anything. All he does is rant.

Stop trolling Jayson. We already saw this with Rockstar games on 360/PS3. You know **** well that $10 difference is to give retailers a cut plus pay for packaging. Infact, I'm pretty sure Nintendo will make a dollar or so less on each retail Luigi U copy than digital.

They sell digital games for the same price as retail because they can. Once again, not something that is unique to Nintendo and you're simply fishing for a controversy. Microsoft, Sony and others have done this a lot before Nintendo. I don't necessarily like it, but I can't blame them for going for more money. The eShop already has better retail game discounts than XBL/PSN did (well, maybe just XBL) so I don't mind all that much when titles like ACIII, Zombi U, etc go 50% off every now and then.

[QUOTE="darksongbird"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Luigi U is coming out in a few months and people have two options.

Buy the downloadable version for 19.99

Buy the retail version for 29.99

Since this precedent has been made it makes you wonder why Nintendo games are their full retail price in the eShop. Shouldn't all of their games be ten dollars off?

QuebecSuperstar

He never has anything good to say about anything. All he does is rant.

Believe it or not, he runs a gaming site with other GameSpot users. A site that loads very slowly ATM. He does significantly less "ranting" on his site so it leads me to believe he just trolls GameSpot because he enjoys it. He leaves threads often and cherry picks comments, so I think he is just doing it for the lulz.

[QUOTE="QuebecSuperstar"]

[QUOTE="darksongbird"] Do you ever have anything good to say about Nintendo? I don't even know why you are on these boards.bonesawisready5

He never has anything good to say about anything. All he does is rant.

Believe it or not, he runs a gaming site with other GameSpot users. A site that loads very slowly ATM. He does significantly less "ranting" on his site so it leads me to believe he just trolls GameSpot because he enjoys it. He leaves threads often and cherry picks comments, so I think he is just doing it for the lulz.

Its a bit odd they were offering a stand alone version... I can't really see many people buying the luigi one without having bought the Mario Bros game first. I wonder if anyone that bought the luigi U version first can buy the Mario Bros U version as dlc for a cheaper price!

Mugzippit

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]That's how it should be anyway. It baffles me when download versions are the same price or more.starwarsjunky

Luigi U is coming out in a few months and people have two options.

Buy the downloadable version for 19.99

Buy the retail version for 29.99

Since this precedent has been made it makes you wonder why Nintendo games are their full retail price in the eShop. Shouldn't all of their games be ten dollars off?

Jaysonguy

You can't take your downloadable version on the go like you can on a disc

Take it on the go. Bring the disc and have it be read on another wii u belonging to a friend/relative who also owns a wii u. It's about the box and a hard copy on a disc. I think the $10 would be worth it.

To me that's how the games should be priced. The downloadable version should be 10 dollars less expensive than the physical one. It's reasonable.

But like others have mentioned, in this case, the price is different because the physical game is a stand-alone title.

To me that's how the games should be priced. The downloadable version should be 10 dollars less expensive than the physical one. It's reasonable.

But like others have mentioned, in this case, the price is different because the physical game is a stand-alone title.

Pierst179

To me that's how the games should be priced. The downloadable version should be 10 dollars less expensive than the physical one. It's reasonable.

But like others have mentioned, in this case, the price is different because the physical game is a stand-alone title.

Pierst179

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="QuebecSuperstar"]

He never has anything good to say about anything. All he does is rant.

Toxic-Seahorse

Believe it or not, he runs a gaming site with other GameSpot users. A site that loads very slowly ATM. He does significantly less "ranting" on his site so it leads me to believe he just trolls GameSpot because he enjoys it. He leaves threads often and cherry picks comments, so I think he is just doing it for the lulz.

On LuigiU, I wonder if they're going to offer it as a standalone game on the eShop, as well, for those who don't have NSMBU. They didn't say anything about it (I don't think), so I doubt they will, which makes it really weird to offer a standalone retail copy.

Another weird part is that its release date is over a month later than the DLC version. My guess is that Nintendo has another giant hole in their lineup in August, so they need to fill it with something.

The $10 difference is the weirdest part, though. Maybe they feel like $20 at retail is selling it short for what it is or something. They must think that anyone who really wants it but doesn't have NSMBU will be willing to pay the extra money.

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

Believe it or not, he runs a gaming site with other GameSpot users. A site that loads very slowly ATM. He does significantly less "ranting" on his site so it leads me to believe he just trolls GameSpot because he enjoys it. He leaves threads often and cherry picks comments, so I think he is just doing it for the lulz.

JordanElek

On LuigiU, I wonder if they're going to offer it as a standalone game on the eShop, as well, for those who don't have NSMBU. They didn't say anything about it (I don't think), so I doubt they will, which makes it really weird to offer a standalone retail copy.

Another weird part is that its release date is over a month later than the DLC version. My guess is that Nintendo has another giant hole in their lineup in August, so they need to fill it with something.

The $10 difference is the weirdest part, though. Maybe they feel like $20 at retail is selling it short for what it is or something. They must think that anyone who really wants it but doesn't have NSMBU will be willing to pay the extra money.

Getting the retail version for the green case, possibly limited edition for Year Of Luigi? And if its not ,oh well im using Amazon credit!

Luigi U is coming out in a few months and people have two options.

Buy the downloadable version for 19.99

Buy the retail version for 29.99

Since this precedent has been made it makes you wonder why Nintendo games are their full retail price in the eShop. Shouldn't all of their games be ten dollars off?

Jaysonguy

As many have mentioned before, differences in pricing here reflects the versions offered.

In all seriousness however, I don't buy downloadable games from Nintendo because they offer me exactly zero value over their retail counterparts.  If they would (gasp) offer me a slight discount, I'd be far more inclined to buy them over the downloadable service. 

Steam does great.  I just don't understand why more companies don't follow their lead.

I totally agree with Jasonguy on this topic as the difference between downloadable games versus retail releases.  Give me a reason to support your online service Nintendo.

To be fair, the box is pretty damn sweet.

Still not getting the game though. I like to take my time in Mario games and the 100 second timer doesn't appeal to me. I know you don't have forever in NSMBU, but at least it's longer than the Luigi version.

Look another stupid Jaysonguy thread :/

It's like that with the bulk of games that are online/ retail. for instance, RDR: Undead Nightmare. It's ten bucks if you download it from the online store. If you go to Gamespot, it was thirty bucks for a physical copy of the game.

Physical copies are just more expensive sometimes. Nintendo is far form the only company that does this and it's not even a big deal anyways.

the extra $10 is because it's standalone. they aren't making it more expensive at retail, they're making it cheaper if you already own NSMBU.BrunoBRS

I'm not saying it's right or wrong or good or bad. I'm just wondering what the real reason for the difference is, if there is one. Nintendo doesn't usually differentiate between retail and digital in terms of price. Maybe they think that the price difference will push a few people who kind of wanted NSMBU over the edge to buy it so that they can both play that and get Luigi U for $10 cheaper. Or like I said before, maybe they think $20 is just too cheap for a standalone game at retail from Nintendo.

That's how it should be anyway. It baffles me when download versions are the same price or more.SolidSnake35

Keeping a good repore with retailers seems like a good reason to me. If the downloadable versions of retail games are cheaper on the online service then retailers are going to take a hit

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]the extra $10 is because it's standalone. they aren't making it more expensive at retail, they're making it cheaper if you already own NSMBU.JordanElek

I'm not saying it's right or wrong or good or bad. I'm just wondering what the real reason for the difference is, if there is one. Nintendo doesn't usually differentiate between retail and digital in terms of price. Maybe they think that the price difference will push a few people who kind of wanted NSMBU over the edge to buy it so that they can both play that and get Luigi U for $10 cheaper. Or like I said before, maybe they think $20 is just too cheap for a standalone game at retail from Nintendo.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]the extra $10 is because it's standalone. they aren't making it more expensive at retail, they're making it cheaper if you already own NSMBU.JordanElek

I'm not saying it's right or wrong or good or bad. I'm just wondering what the real reason for the difference is, if there is one. Nintendo doesn't usually differentiate between retail and digital in terms of price. Maybe they think that the price difference will push a few people who kind of wanted NSMBU over the edge to buy it so that they can both play that and get Luigi U for $10 cheaper. Or like I said before, maybe they think $20 is just too cheap for a standalone game at retail from Nintendo.

dont flatter yourselves the retail version is for people like me who are running low on space or dont have nsmbu i downloaded near every game on vc thus far lolmariokart64fan

I will gladly pay ten dollars more to have a physical copy, and thus actual ownership of the game. I hate paid DLC with a passion but releasing it as a standalone retail title is a different story.famicommander

I will gladly pay ten dollars more to have a physical copy, and thus actual ownership of the game. I hate paid DLC with a passion but releasing it as a standalone retail title is a different story.famicommander

Nope, no it's not

That makes completely no sense whatsoever

Were you the one who doesn't understand that you have more rights when it comes to digital content then you do physical or are you simply "DLC is bad unless I buy it in a box because yeah, that totally makes sense!" guy?

[QUOTE="famicommander"]I will gladly pay ten dollars more to have a physical copy, and thus actual ownership of the game. I hate paid DLC with a passion but releasing it as a standalone retail title is a different story.Jaysonguy

Nope, no it's not

That makes completely no sense whatsoever

Were you the one who doesn't understand that you have more rights when it comes to digital content then you do physical or are you simply "DLC is bad unless I buy it in a box because yeah, that totally makes sense!" guy?

[QUOTE="famicommander"]I will gladly pay ten dollars more to have a physical copy, and thus actual ownership of the game. I hate paid DLC with a passion but releasing it as a standalone retail title is a different story.Jaysonguy

Nope, no it's not

That makes completely no sense whatsoever

Were you the one who doesn't understand that you have more rights when it comes to digital content then you do physical or are you simply "DLC is bad unless I buy it in a box because yeah, that totally makes sense!" guy?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

How would I get a copy of the game when PSN shuts down due to the closing of Sony?

Minishdriveby

There'd be a system where people would be able to download the games they own on a storage device.

It's already happened for companies who sell software, their business ended and you could get a copy of your software that you keep yourself.

There are also other problems with this. If the company shuts down and you're allowed to download the data to a storage device say, the PS3/disc Then your games become tied to the system/disc again. Once again defeating the purpose of DD.  If the storage device dies or is stolen, how do you play your game/buy a new copy?

How long if at all is this offer for downloading what you own available for?

And yet another problem has arisen in the past couple of months. Because XBLA/PSN games are nontransferable when you're Xbox360/PS3 die and the servers for XBLA/PSN go then there's no way to get your game back. If it is offered on the PS4/XOne then you would have to re-buy it which once again defeats the purpose of owning something. Again please explain why digital is better? Because you're explanation so far is that digital is better because eventually it becomes a physical copy when the company goes bankrupt.

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

There'd be a system where people would be able to download the games they own on a storage device.

It's already happened for companies who sell software, their business ended and you could get a copy of your software that you keep yourself.

Minishdriveby

There are also other problems with this. If the company shuts down and you're allowed to download the data to a storage device say, the PS3/disc Then your games become tied to the system/disc again. Once again defeating the purpose of DD.  If the storage device dies or is stolen, how do you play your game/buy a new copy?

How long if at all is this offer for downloading what you own available for?

And yet another problem has arisen in the past couple of months. Because XBLA/PSN games are nontransferable when you're Xbox360/PS3 die and the servers for XBLA/PSN go then there's no way to get your game back. If it is offered on the PS4/XOne then you would have to re-buy it which once again defeats the purpose of owning something. Again please explain why digital is better? Because you're explanation so far is that digital is better because eventually it becomes a physical copy when the company goes bankrupt.

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"] That's not the question. If I don't already own the game, how would I buy it if the company shuts down?

 

There are also other problems with this. If the company shuts down and you're allowed to download the data to a storage device say, the PS3/disc Then your games become tied to the system/disc again. Once again defeating the purpose of DD.  If the storage device dies or is stolen, how do you play your game/buy a new copy?

How long if at all is this offer for downloading what you own available for?

starwarsjunky

And yet another problem has arisen in the past couple of months. Because XBLA/PSN games are nontransferable when you're Xbox360/PS3 die and the servers for XBLA/PSN go then there's no way to get your game back. If it is offered on the PS4/XOne then you would have to re-buy it which once again defeats the purpose of owning something. Again please explain why digital is better? Because you're explanation so far is that digital is better because eventually it becomes a physical copy when the company goes bankrupt.

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

 

And yet another problem has arisen in the past couple of months. Because XBLA/PSN games are nontransferable when you're Xbox360/PS3 die and the servers for XBLA/PSN go then there's no way to get your game back. If it is offered on the PS4/XOne then you would have to re-buy it which once again defeats the purpose of owning something. Again please explain why digital is better? Because you're explanation so far is that digital is better because eventually it becomes a physical copy when the company goes bankrupt.

Minishdriveby

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"][QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] when you buy a disc and it no longer works, there is no longer a way to get your game back. if you bought digital, you can just redownload it. and the "offered on ps4/XBone" is a non-point as physical games won't work there either, as neither one has BC. at least with digital, you can re download if something becomes corrupted. and even if that company goes under, you still have that copy that is on your drive, which you can make a back up if you like.starwarsjunky

For another example more relevant to this forum.he Look at the Wii-U the digital downloads are even more restrictive. You can't even go to your friends' house and play a game you bought online unless you bring the system with you.

Once again digital distribution works when the company allows you to make back up copies that aren't tied to your account like GOG. Digital Distribution also works when you pirate things, but there is a social taboo about that on gaming forums.

It's a matter of pulling them at all which will eventually happen because they're not going to keep the servers for the 360/One running at the same time forever.

[quote=""] It's a matter of pulling them at all which will eventually happen because they're not going to keep the servers for the 360/One running at the same time forever.starwarsjunky

Worse comes to worse for discs: The disc breaks and servers are shut down. I can buy another copy of the disc and continue to play my game.

Worse comes to worse for Downloadable content: The system breaks and the servers are shut down. I can no longer play my game or buy a new copy on my 360/PS3.

We won't even talk about the Wii-U whose digital distribution is basically physical distribution without the hassel of leaving home.

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][quote=""] It's a matter of pulling them at all which will eventually happen because they're not going to keep the servers for the 360/One running at the same time forever.Minishdriveby

Worse comes to worse for discs: The disc breaks and servers are shut down. I can buy another copy of the disc and continue to play my game.

Worse comes to worse for Downloadable content: The system breaks and the servers are shut down. I can no longer play my game or buy a new copy on my 360/PS3.

We won't even talk about the Wii-U whose digital distribution is basically physical distribution without the hassel of leaving home.

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][quote=""] It's a matter of pulling them at all which will eventually happen because they're not going to keep the servers for the 360/One running at the same time forever.starwarsjunky

Worse comes to worse for discs: The disc breaks and servers are shut down. I can buy another copy of the disc and continue to play my game.

Worse comes to worse for Downloadable content: The system breaks and the servers are shut down. I can no longer play my game or buy a new copy on my 360/PS3.

We won't even talk about the Wii-U whose digital distribution is basically physical distribution without the hassel of leaving home.

I'm more accepting of Digital Distribution through Steam, GOG, and "other methods"... consoles are a no go for me because they're closed platforms and the companies tend to be extremely restrictive with their policies. For example, Nintendo whose DD is tied to the system not account means that if the system is loss, I cannot just redownload the game when I get a new system.

In this case buying NSMBU Luigi DLC on a disc instead of through e-Shop is better.

1. If the system breaks you don't have to pay for the content again/send your system to nintendo for them to extract data.
2. It's easier to transport the game to other locations. Carryin a disc in your bag instead of a $300 system in your bag. 

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"] In the specific case of 360/PS3

Worse comes to worse for discs: The disc breaks and servers are shut down. I can buy another copy of the disc and continue to play my game.

Worse comes to worse for Downloadable content: The system breaks and the servers are shut down. I can no longer play my game or buy a new copy on my 360/PS3.

 

We won't even talk about the Wii-U whose digital distribution is basically physical distribution without the hassel of leaving home.

Minishdriveby

I'm more accepting of Digital Distribution through Steam, GOG, and "other methods"... consoles are a no go for me because they're closed platforms and the companies tend to be extremely restrictive with their policies. For example, Nintendo whose DD is tied to the system not account means that if the system is loss, I cannot just redownload the game when I get a new system.

In this case buying NSMBU Luigi DLC on a disc instead of through e-Shop is better.

1. If the system breaks you don't have to pay for the content again/send your system to nintendo for them to extract data.
2. It's easier to transport the game to other locations. Carryin a disc in your bag instead of a $300 system in your bag.