Nintendo needs to do an achievement system for all of their retro games. The NES and SNES era games were tough, especially the NES era, so therefore making the achievements all the sweeter
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They do not. Achievements are dumb.MonsieurX
I came here to write just that but you already did so......+1
Seriously, I'm happy not to have any Achievements system on the Wii U and I hope it remains that way.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]They do not. Achievements are dumb.QuebecSuperstar
I came here to write just that but you already did so......+1
Seriously, I'm happy not to have any Achievements system on the Wii U and I hope it remains that way.
I came here to laugh at the inevitable post by people who dislike features that take nothing away from games and can be totally ignored if you so choose. So, lol.[QUOTE="QuebecSuperstar"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]They do not. Achievements are dumb.TxTech1923
I came here to write just that but you already did so......+1
Seriously, I'm happy not to have any Achievements system on the Wii U and I hope it remains that way.
I came here to laugh at the inevitable post by people who dislike features that take nothing away from games and can be totally ignored if you so choose. So, lol.Agree
It's complete idiocy that people don't want achievements.
These people also don't like high scores or competition so...........
Agree
It's complete idiocy that people don't want achievements.
These people also don't like high scores or competition so...........
Jaysonguy
So.....? So what? Please don't cut your thoroughly insightful analysis there!
And come on! It's COMPLETE IDIOCY that people don't want achievements on a gaming platform? Really?? How old are you?
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
So.....? So what? Please don't cut your thoroughly insightful analysis there!
And come on! It's COMPLETE IDIOCY that people don't want achievements on a gaming platform? Really?? How old are you?
QuebecSuperstar
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Agree
It's complete idiocy that people don't want achievements.
These people also don't like high scores or competition so...........
QuebecSuperstar
So.....? So what? Please don't cut your thoroughly insightful analysis there!
And come on! It's COMPLETE IDIOCY that people don't want achievements on a gaming platform? Really?? How old are you?
I think its Jasonguy worded it wrong. This is what he should have said: "It's complete idiocy that people are opposed to a feature (and hope its never added) that does not detract from the experience AT ALL and can EASILY be ignored"[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Agree
It's complete idiocy that people don't want achievements.
These people also don't like high scores or competition so...........
QuebecSuperstar
So.....? So what? Please don't cut your thoroughly insightful analysis there!
And come on! It's COMPLETE IDIOCY that people don't want achievements on a gaming platform? Really?? How old are you?
It's idiocy to want a feature to never be added when it has no negative impact on you at all, and others may enjoy it. While you're asking how old others are, how about you ask yourself where you got the spoiled child mentality from? o.O[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Agree
It's complete idiocy that people don't want achievements.
These people also don't like high scores or competition so...........
QuebecSuperstar
So.....? So what? Please don't cut your thoroughly insightful analysis there!
And come on! It's COMPLETE IDIOCY that people don't want achievements on a gaming platform? Really?? How old are you?
Old enough to understand that you're unable to have a rational conversation about this.
So let's see, there's a way to add challenge and replayability to games and make more people interested in them at zero cost.
Not doing that is idiocy.
It Nintendo was to implement such a system, it would only make sense to start with the larger retail titles first. Regardless of how challenging most retro games are, to add a feature with those games being the focal point isn't very realistic. If the Wii is any indication, the VC games won't be anywhere near as popular as the Wii U's high profile offerings (assuming the system ever picks up and gets any), so it would be a waste to highlight games that only an extreme minority would be active players.
In any case, I wouldn't hold my breath. This should have been one of those things Nintendo had available for the Wii U at launch if they were going to use it, and it's just too difficult to predict what Nintendo is trying to do these days to actually get excited about such a thing.
[QUOTE="Tonindo"]
No achievements please. Developers should spend their time on improving their games in other areas. Achievements are stupid.
Jaysonguy
lol
You think achievements are hard to make?
No, and that's part of the problem. Because it's so easy and cheap to make, achievements have replaced the far superior system of in-game unlockables.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
[QUOTE="Tonindo"]
No achievements please. Developers should spend their time on improving their games in other areas. Achievements are stupid.
Tonindo
lol
You think achievements are hard to make?
No, and that's part of the problem. Because it's so easy and cheap to make, achievements have replaced the far superior system of in-game unlockables. You do realize the two aren't mutually exclusive right..?[QUOTE="Tonindo"]No, and that's part of the problem. Because it's so easy and cheap to make, achievements have replaced the far superior system of in-game unlockables. You do realize the two aren't mutually exclusive right..?But why add something that takes more time and work when gamers are perfectly content with developers giving them virtual thumbs up? Hmm.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
lol
You think achievements are hard to make?
TxTech1923
You do realize the two aren't mutually exclusive right..?But why add something that takes more time and work when gamers are perfectly content with developers giving them virtual thumbs up? Hmm.[QUOTE="TxTech1923"][QUOTE="Tonindo"]No, and that's part of the problem. Because it's so easy and cheap to make, achievements have replaced the far superior system of in-game unlockables.
Tonindo
OK, please tell me how this is time and work, tell me what you think happens
You do realize the two aren't mutually exclusive right..?But why add something that takes more time and work when gamers are perfectly content with developers giving them virtual thumbs up? Hmm. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't overturn how popular achievements are, nor did you provide anything that says they take away from other developments. Add another to the list of whiners who just don't want anyone to enjoy things if they don't.[QUOTE="TxTech1923"][QUOTE="Tonindo"]No, and that's part of the problem. Because it's so easy and cheap to make, achievements have replaced the far superior system of in-game unlockables.
Tonindo
[QUOTE="Tonindo"]But why add something that takes more time and work when gamers are perfectly content with developers giving them virtual thumbs up? Hmm. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't overturn how popular achievements are, nor did you provide anything that says they take away from other developments. Add another to the list of whiners who just don't want anyone to enjoy things if they don't.It's actually hard to give any real evidence, but the absence of in-game unlockables this generation makes it seem like developers prefer the easier and less expensive route of achievements.[QUOTE="TxTech1923"] You do realize the two aren't mutually exclusive right..?TxTech1923
Jasonguy: I'm not sure I follow. What I wrote is fairly self-explanatory.
Your anecdotal evidence doesn't overturn how popular achievements are, nor did you provide anything that says they take away from other developments. Add another to the list of whiners who just don't want anyone to enjoy things if they don't.It's actually hard to give any real evidence, but the absence of in-game unlockables this generation makes it seem like developers prefer the easier and less expensive route of achievements.[QUOTE="TxTech1923"][QUOTE="Tonindo"]But why add something that takes more time and work when gamers are perfectly content with developers giving them virtual thumbs up? Hmm.
Tonindo
Jasonguy: I'm not sure I follow. What I wrote is fairly self-explanatory.
Less unlocks has very little if anything to do with achievements, it's because developers found out people will pay for those things as DLC, which is why we see alternate costumes and cheats as one or two dollar DLC purchases instead of unlocks.[QUOTE="Tonindo"]It's actually hard to give any real evidence, but the absence of in-game unlockables this generation makes it seem like developers prefer the easier and less expensive route of achievements.[QUOTE="TxTech1923"] Your anecdotal evidence doesn't overturn how popular achievements are, nor did you provide anything that says they take away from other developments. Add another to the list of whiners who just don't want anyone to enjoy things if they don't.TxTech1923
Jasonguy: I'm not sure I follow. What I wrote is fairly self-explanatory.
Less unlocks has very little if anything to do with achievements, it's because developers found out people will pay for those things as DLC, which is why we see alternate costumes and cheats as one or two dollar DLC purchases instead of unlocks.True, although I do believe that achievements also have had an impact on unlockables.True, although I do believe that achievements also have had an impact on unlockables.
Tonindo
Maybe... but look at it this way. In the case of retro titles, which is what the TC is referring to, those games have been developed long ago. Even if what you're saying has some truth to it, it wouldn't hurt those games to have some sort of reward system in place. Plus, there are games that give achievements/trophies for unlocking things, so it's not something that compromises all unlockables, even if does for some (which can't really be proven).
I can understand your point of view, but if you're going to be concerned about something, let it be about developers just getting lazy and not wanting to offer enough value in their games. Effort's going to be an issue, regardless of if achievement/trophies/etc. are part of the equation or not.
[QUOTE="Tonindo"]
True, although I do believe that achievements also have had an impact on unlockables.
Madmangamer364
Maybe... but look at it this way. In the case of retro titles, which is what the TC is referring to, those games have been developed long ago. Even if what you're saying has some truth to it, it wouldn't hurt those games to have some sort of reward system in place. Plus, there are games that give achievements/trophies for unlocking things, so it's not something that compromises all unlockables, even if does for some (which can't really be proven).
I can understand your point of view, but if you're going to be concerned about something, let it be about developers just getting lazy and not wanting to offer enough value in their games. Effort's going to be an issue, regardless of if achievement/trophies/etc. are part of the equation or not.
I went a bit off topic before and I apologize for that. I was talking about modern games and not games released in the 80's and 90's. Having achievements in virtual console games would be a bonus for some, though at the same time, it wouldn't add anything of value for me.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
[QUOTE="Tonindo"]
No achievements please. Developers should spend their time on improving their games in other areas. Achievements are stupid.
Tonindo
lol
You think achievements are hard to make?
No, and that's part of the problem. Because it's so easy and cheap to make, achievements have replaced the far superior system of in-game unlockables. You should blame DLC for the lack of in-game unlockables these days, not achievements.[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]They do not. Achievements are dumb.famicommanderGame, set, match. First post wins the thread.
Except it's full of fail and you're connected to fail because you quoted that
How does that make you feel?
Want to go back and understand that achievements add a level to games at no cost that brings in players and increases overall revenue or are you happy to be a failure?
Choice is yours.
not unless theres some reward for earning these achievements like hats and clothes to dress up Miis. Imagine your Mii dressed in monster hunter armor
Don't really care if achievements get implemented. They don't really add anything to my gaming experience, but they don't take anything away either.
Game, set, match. First post wins the thread.[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]They do not. Achievements are dumb.Jaysonguy
Except it's full of fail and you're connected to fail because you quoted that
How does that make you feel?
Want to go back and understand that achievements add a level to games at no cost that brings in players and increases overall revenue or are you happy to be a failure?
Choice is yours.
Hostile much?
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Agree
It's complete idiocy that people don't want achievements.
These people also don't like high scores or competition so...........
QuebecSuperstar
So.....? So what? Please don't cut your thoroughly insightful analysis there!
And come on! It's COMPLETE IDIOCY that people don't want achievements on a gaming platform? Really?? How old are you?
Yes, being happy about not having something optional(!) is indeed complete idiocy.While there are some examples of good times achievements were done right but alot of the time it HURTS games FACT. (Jasonguy i'm talking to you) A dev says we were going to have a 16 hour campaign but nah just make it 10 hours and add in HARD achievements that will take you those 6 hours to get. Achievments on Wii U get a nay nay from me.
While there are some examples of good times achievements were done right but alot of the time it HURTS games FACT. (Jasonguy i'm talking to you) A dev says we were going to have a 16 hour campaign but nah just make it 10 hours and add in HARD achievements that will take you those 6 hours to get. Achievments on Wii U get a nay nay from me.
Master_Of_Fools
That never happens, ever.
I know many people at many different studios, achievements and trophies, and even Steam achievements come in at the end of a game. It's not in the planning phase at all.
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