Legend of Zelda news! Link moves like you move with M+

Ok, so Gonintendo has been known to just publish anything from any shady source without fact-checking first, so I'm going to put the alert. This news originated from a newbie poster (it was their first post on the site) on a Zelda forum, claiming to have a summary of an interview with Aonuma from the January issue of The Official Nintendo Magazine UK. So this may be all a hoax. But since it's being widely reported, here we go:

• MotionPlus has been incorporated into the game, and Link is "already reproducing almost perfectly what you do with the remote and MotionPlus. Our team has already got a solid response from this aspect of the software."

• The structure of the game has been changed significantly from previous games, and Aonuma hopes that people will be surprised with the changes.

• The game has been well under development for some time now, and Aonuma is hopeful that they will be able to show something at E3 2010.

• MotionPlus was not even conceived when development started on the game, so they had to experiment with the idea of such inclusion part-way through development.

• Most bizzare of all, Aonuma mentions that a definite graphical style for the game has not yet been decided. Aonuma says that it's possible that they may even go for something completely new, but hints that it will likely be on the realism side of the spectrum (as opposed to cel-shading).

• Aonuma has been reading speculation on the internet and says that some of it is correct, but cannot elaborate on it until next year.

• Aonuma has been playing Monster Hunter Tri in order to see what aspects most appeal to the audience.

so excited. but it seems like a 2010 release might be a bit optimistic if they haven't even decided on the graphical style yet...

Aonuma has been playing Monster Hunter Tri in order to see what aspects most appeal to the audience.clicketyclick

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Aonuma has been playing Monster Hunter Tri in order to see what aspects most appeal to the audience.garrett_duffman

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

• The game has been well under development for some time now, and Aonuma is hopeful that they will be able to show something at E3 2010.

clicketyclick

So it's safe to say it's coming in 2011.

Great news.

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

Shirokishi_

Obviously, this game is only for the hardest of the hardcore. If your arms can't stand it, then you clearly aren't cut out to be the savior of Hyrule.

@Clickety: Most of that has been known for a while. The part that did pique my interest was what they were doing with the graphical style. Personally, I would like to see Zelda Wii cel-shaded, sort of like what was done in Prince of Persia (2008).

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

Shirokishi_

I'm all for change but Zelda is a single player experience. Handheld multiplayer is one thing but to bring it to a console game would be ridiculous and I believe would take away from the fundamental aspects of a game that never needed help until two events unfolded:

1. Developers starting with multiplayer, then building a story and game around that

2. The famous TP v. WW arguement.

My first game was The Legend of Zelda back when I was 5 and to think that they may destroy this game with too drastic of changes worries me and hurts a little. Call it over reacting but I've seen what developers can do with a great game (Mega Man) and they just throw it down the drain and never look back.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

garrett_duffman

Not even. My arms only got tired during wii sports baseball, and that was from overzealous swinging.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

garrett_duffman

Not my complaint, its a common complaint I noticed in the web in early 07 and late 06. Yes, chances are the ones who complaned werent on the strong side.

I played for 16 hours straight and didnt feel a thing, half the time I didnt even realize I was moving my arm to slash.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

shoryuken_

Obviously, this game is only for the hardest of the hardcore. If your arms can't stand it, then you clearly aren't cut out to be the savior of Hyrule.

Or you could go to the gym.

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

StripTheSoul

Not even. My arms only got tired during wii sports baseball, and that was from overzealous swinging.

Those statements are just conservative enough to be believable.

But if it is true that Mo+ wasn't added until half way through development, then the worst of my fears has come true. You see, I was pretty much hoping that this would be a game based almost completely around the idea of the Mo+, that there would be an entirely new way of interacting with the environment/monsters/puzzles because of it. But if it wasn't added in until half way, well, they won't have that foundation. It'll be just a neat gimmick, tacked on. Awesome sure, but game changing...probably not.

I guess I still have hope for it since they were using the regular old Wiimote to start with. If we're lucky, they had a lot of ideas that were just too big for the standard Wiimote and when Mo+ came along it fit right in to make their grand designs a reality. If we're unlucky, they started with the Wiimote, knew what they had, and didn't think any bigger than that. Mo+ controls might as well be tacked on waggle then. Precise waggle, no doubt, but still overall functionless.

I have a very strange feeling that this is going to be a First Person Swordfighting game maybe with online co-op or something based off that last part.

eh nothing really news worthy there Sepewrath

The M+ stuff was news to me. It wasn't confirmed and now we know how it's going to be implemented. He's exactly copying your motions. This isn't going to even be like Twilight Princess 2.0 where it actually swings in the same direction you motion in with pre-determined attacks. link is apparently going to copy your movements... @Arc, well, it's halfway through the development SO FAR. That might turn out to be 1/4 way through the development in the long run.clicketyclick

Either way, its well beyond the stage where the big main ideas are thought of. You know, the revolutionary ones.

I know, I know, I've written lengthy papers before, I understand that ideas and concepts are organic, growing and changing shape around new ideas as they arise, and the new ideas give rise to newer ideas, and those change the old ideas again, and then you never really feel like you're done with the paper even though its the night before its due and you still had a lot of other stuff you wanted to get to, but now your just going to have to almost randomly cut it off which makes your conclusion sound abrubt and awkward, and you get a B on it because you couldn't just focus. (end ramble)

Eh...where was I going with that again? Oh yeah! But the point is you never change topics. You picked that sucker out in the first week and if you go back now you might be even worse off in the end with a lot more work.

Also, will this mean that Link is officially a Righty?

I wish they would let you decide which hand you want to put a certain item on. I don't like doing the motion control stuff with my right hand.

so excited. but it seems like a 2010 release might be a bit optimistic if they haven't even decided on the graphical style yet...

neildneil

If they are using ideas from Monster Hunter, that means that there may be heaps of armour and weapon customization!

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

• The game has been well under development for some time now, and Aonuma is hopeful that they will be able to show something at E3 2010.

awssk8er716

So it's safe to say it's coming in 2011.

Great news.

Hope I'm not the only one who hopes for cel shading. The hardware of the Wii would could make a cel-shaded game look incredible, but you can't go that far on the Wii with realistic visuals. I want my Zelda as pretty as possible. :)

• Aonuma has been playing Monster Hunter Tri in order to see what aspects most appeal to the audience.

clicketyclick

:o No!! They better not copy Monster Hunter's grinding elements and tedious difficulty. The PSP game was NOT fun.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

shoryuken_

Obviously, this game is only for the hardest of the hardcore. If your arms can't stand it, then you clearly aren't cut out to be the savior of Hyrule.

@Clickety: Most of that has been known for a while. The part that did pique my interest was what they were doing with the graphical style. Personally, I would like to see Zelda Wii cel-shaded, sort of like what was done in Prince of Persia (2008).

This is what I want, with adult link

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

• Aonuma has been playing Monster Hunter Tri in order to see what aspects most appeal to the audience.

canadianloonie

:o No!! They better not copy Monster Hunter's grinding elements and tedious difficulty. The PSP game was NOT fun.

I wish they would let you decide which hand you want to put a certain item on. I don't like doing the motion control stuff with my right hand.

shoryuken_

[QUOTE="shoryuken_"]

I wish they would let you decide which hand you want to put a certain item on. I don't like doing the motion control stuff with my right hand.

Nintendo_Ownes7

The Monster Hunter statement should not be read into too much.

The Monster Hunter statement should not be read into too much.

thedude-

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Same here I am Right handed but I always prefered to use my Left hand for sword fighting and other stuff.

BrunoBRS

I'm ambidextrous..but it's weird using the motion controls with my right hand only. At the same time, when I switch hands, its hard to get used to the analog stick being on the right side, because that goes against a habit of playing with the analog/D-pad on the right side for my entire life.

That being said, Nintendo always goes on about how they want to include everybody in their games. Everybody does not mean primarily righties. Therefore, I think Nintendo should include the option to switch hands in their games that heavily utilize motion control.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Same here I am Right handed but I always prefered to use my Left hand for sword fighting and other stuff.

shoryuken_

I'm ambidextrous..but it's weird using the motion controls with my right hand only. At the same time, when I switch hands, its hard to get used to the analog stick being on the right side, because that goes against a habit of playing with the analog/D-pad on the right side for my entire life.

That being said, Nintendo always goes on about how they want to include everybody in their games. Everybody does not mean primarily righties. Therefore, I think Nintendo should include the option to switch hands in their games that heavily utilize motion control.

[QUOTE="shoryuken_"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And people complained their arms got tired from the waggle in TP. The complaints are gonna reach a whole new plateau with this :P

Sounds awesome though, thanks for posting.

ryangcnx-2

Obviously, this game is only for the hardest of the hardcore. If your arms can't stand it, then you clearly aren't cut out to be the savior of Hyrule.

@Clickety: Most of that has been known for a while. The part that did pique my interest was what they were doing with the graphical style. Personally, I would like to see Zelda Wii cel-shaded, sort of like what was done in Prince of Persia (2008).

This is what I want, with adult link

[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]eh nothing really news worthy there clicketyclick

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

The Monster Hunter statement should not be read into too much.

if this is true... this would prove my "Zelda is the prototype/alpha stages" theory correct. I'm still betting we see a trailer at E3.

This scares me a little, don't getg me wrong... I'm expectinng for some changes too, but I think I would be dissapointed if they changed it too drastically

I don't believe the article.

"Nintendo currently undecided on graphical style Zelda Wii"

E3 2008 mentions that Zelda Wii is being worked on...now I'm supposed to believe that a year and a half later they are still tossing ideas back and forth about where to begin?

Fail.

I don't believe the article.

"Nintendo currently undecided on graphical style Zelda Wii"

E3 2008 mentions that Zelda Wii is being worked on...now I'm supposed to believe that a year and a half later they are still tossing ideas back and forth about where to begin?

Fail.

chefstubbies

I was waiting for someone else to notice this too lol

The Art Style guide (aka how the entire game will look; characters, landscapes,etc.) is determined/finished before any "in-game" work begins. You couldn't just have a team all start creating 3d characters/worlds and hope they look similar enough to "flow."

It is most likely fake, but it's still fun none-the-less

I don't believe the article.

"Nintendo currently undecided on graphical style Zelda Wii"

E3 2008 mentions that Zelda Wii is being worked on...now I'm supposed to believe that a year and a half later they are still tossing ideas back and forth about where to begin?

Fail.

chefstubbies

[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]

I don't believe the article.

"Nintendo currently undecided on graphical style Zelda Wii"

E3 2008 mentions that Zelda Wii is being worked on...now I'm supposed to believe that a year and a half later they are still tossing ideas back and forth about where to begin?

Fail.

danger_ranger95

I was waiting for someone else to notice this too lol

The Art Style guide (aka how the entire game will look; characters, landscapes,etc.) is determined/finished before any "in-game" work begins. You couldn't just have a team all start creating 3d characters/worlds and hope they look similar enough to "flow."

It is most likely fake, but it's still fun none-the-less

Mario and Zelda has two different teams, so them working on Mario games would have no effect on Zelda's schedule. And that Space World video was just a tech demo for the cube, it was never said to represent what the next Zelda would look like. Sepewrath

This was really an interesting read.

And Arc even if all this is true, and they did implement it halfway through, that likely wouldn't change its impact. You used writing a paper as a metaphor, well sometimes the big idea doesn't come until the middle and you go back to beginning. But its not a big deal because the groundwork for what you had done up to that point is in place, all you have to do is incorporate the big idea and see how it changes the overall vision from the beginning. Sepewrath

It is my most supreme hope that you are correct. I'd love to see Mo+ done extremely well in this game.

This is just another one of those times that I'm going to have to trust Nintendo. And that doesn't always work so well.