Do you think Nintendo screwed itself over?

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

Yeah, they're totally screwed. Perhaps some one can save them from all the money.Mike1978Smith

[QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]Yeah, they're totally screwed. Perhaps some one can save them from all the money.lucifer3999

Well, I definitely think they screwed themselves over by not building a bigger vault to hold all the gold bars and yen that they're now drowning in.

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

machod_19

While I would have preferred that the Wii was somewhere in between the Xbox and 360 in terms of power, it did not need to be as powerful as the other two.

Also, Nintendo was screwed over - not by itself, by gamers. They have created a superficial, false divide. Do you think casual gamers are that aware of this divide? No, its an invisible divide WE created. Because we think we are so special, so unique so much better than everybody else that onbly the hardcore deserve games :roll:

If you dont agree with the direction Nintendo took thats fine. But you're a bit late to complain about it.

Dont get me wrong, I dont like all the crap and shovelware, but people dont buy nearly as much shovelware as people seem to think. The PS2 wasnt exactly shovelware free, and it had the success of the PS brand from the PS1 to boost third party "hardcore" support. Nintendo did not have that luxury.

[QUOTE="lucifer3999"][QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]Yeah, they're totally screwed. Perhaps some one can save them from all the money.stike22

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

machod_19

That's not true. Nintendo has the amount of software it has due to it's reputation/report with Western developers/publishers (both of which, have been leading many advancements in gaming) it developed starting back on SNES. It has absolutely nothing to due with hardware power.

That being said, Wii has housed some excellent software in spite of it's hardware. Z+W, Trauma Center, Madworld, HoD OK, SMG, Metroid Prime 3, World of Goo, de Blob, No More Heroes, etc. have all been quality, "Next-gen" designs that use the Wii's hardware and control scheme to it's advantage. Wii has two problems, not enough developers outside of Nintendo pushing the Wii and the fact that games that do, don't get bought.

Nintendo was screwed over - not by itself, by gamers. They have created a superficial, false divide. Do you think casual gamers are that aware of this divide? No, its an invisible divide WE created. Quofan

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

machod_19

I couldn't care less if it had the power of the 360 and PS3. I prefer gameplay over graphics.

No. Absolutely not. if they tried to compete with a better graphics and processor, they would have had the same results as the GC. And everyone would call Nintendo stupid for not learning.

Now if you want them to include a better card and processor AND motion controllers, you are doing two things:

1) boosting the price out of the range of many gamers. A lower price doesn't automatically mean selling tons of units, but a high price can really hurt it

2) You change the architecture of your system so much that development houses have to spend valuable time and money retraining and purchasing expensive development kits.

Also, most homes do not have an HD TV, so they couldn't benefit the most from an HD console.

Nintendo is in a great position next gen for HD graphics.

Guy has got it right, Nintendo is the only company that hasn't lost money because there console, the only ones that truly lost out are Nintendo's fans.

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

[QUOTE="lucifer3999"][QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]Yeah, they're totally screwed. Perhaps some one can save them from all the money.stike22

I couldn't care less if it had the power of the 360 and PS3. I prefer gameplay over graphics.

Brawl578

Also, Nintendo was screwed over - not by itself, by gamers. They have created a superficial, false divide. Do you think casual gamers are that aware of this divide? No, its an invisible divide WE created. Because we think we are so special, so unique so much better than everybody else that onbly the hardcore deserve games :roll:

Thank you VERY much. Nintendo hasn't forgot all of us, they're simply working to expand their user base, and it seems to be working out wonderfully.

well yeah but lets face it if it was as good we might have antoher acheviment system but on the other hand their games have been pretty cool e.g super smash bros wii that was still good dispite the availble upgrades nintendo could have has so 50 50

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

[QUOTE="Brawl578"]

I couldn't care less if it had the power of the 360 and PS3. I prefer gameplay over graphics.

Lto_thaG

I'm not saying graphics are a bad thing, I'm just saying that if I were stuck on an island and had to choose betwwen a game with horrible graphics but great gameplay and a game with amazing graphics but horrible gameplay, I would choose great gameplay anyday.

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Brawl578"]

I couldn't care less if it had the power of the 360 and PS3. I prefer gameplay over graphics.

Brawl578

I'm not saying graphics are a bad thing, I'm just saying that if I were stuck on an island and had to choose betwwen a game with horrible graphics but great gameplay and a game with amazing graphics but horrible gameplay, I would choose great gameplay anyday.

Well, I definitely think they screwed themselves over by not building a bigger vault to hold all the gold bars and yen that they're now drowning in.

GabuEx

There are plenty of great games out so what is so bad? The VC has tons of great games if you are bored and need to wait for a new release. I'm extremely happy with my wii and the games it is offering. I only have ten games so far so i still need to buy a lot more games.

Nintendo makes SOOOO much more money compared to the other 2 consoles. They aren't even in Nintendos rear view mirror when it comes to profits. I am not a nintendo fanboy at all, i have the wii and the ds and i think the wii is just a gimick, i have it for my girlfriend. And my ds collects dust most the time, but considering they are the only console that is making money i don't think they screwed up. This console was not made for hardcore gamers and they have no problem keeping it that way.

See now I think they could have done a couple of things, given the graphics chip more memory to address so that even at SD it could have had plenty of really good textures and given it really good hardware anti-aliasing.

Other than that I think hardware wise they did the right thing - history prooves that correct.

What they have failed to do is to get games for gamers onto the system that don't involve needless wii-waggle a-la Da Blob (which uses it for the jump and encourage devs to see the true potential of the platform.

We still don't have a single decent car racing game, or even something like F-Zero, we of course have Mario Kart.

They've also failed to do things like bring Fatal Frame to the West.

Oh and while I'm on a roll...................

Yeah, they're totally screwed. Perhaps some one can save them from all the money.Mike1978Smith

lol, I love that line from Aqua Teen! But yeah, they did screw up in a way. They made such a big deal about how "games don't need the most amazing graphics if they've got good gameplay" (which is kinda true, but only up to a certain point, and isn't true for everyone), and yet now they're working on their wii hd. They were the last ones to have a console this generation (or was that ps3? I don't remember... they were within a few weeks of each other as I recall) and they will be the first to the next generation. That's poor planning, and really sucks for gamers: we can't afford to buy consoles all the time!

If Nintendo had updated its hardware to the level of the Xbox 360 and the PS3, we would be playing much better games. Do you think Nintendo screwed itself ofver by not updated its hardware?

machod_19