Week 14 Discussion (2010)

General/minor news and game discussion for Week 14 should be kept in this thread.

Playoff Picture

Thursday, December 9
Colts (6-6) at Titans (5-7)

Sunday, December 12
Bengals (2-10) at Steelers (9-3)
Browns (5-7) at Bills (2-10)
Buccaneers (7-5) at Redskins (5-7)
Falcons (10-2) at Panthers (1-11)
Packers (8-4) at Lions (2-10)
Raiders (6-6) at Jaguars (7-5)
Broncos (3-9) at Cardinals (3-9)
Chiefs (8-4) at Chargers (6-6)
Dolphins (6-6) at Jets (9-3)
Patriots (10-2) at Bears (9-3)
Rams (6-6) at Saints (9-3)
Seahawks (6-6) at 49ers (4-8 )
Eagles (8-4) at Cowboys (4-8 )

Monday, December 13
Ravens (8-4) at Texans (5-7) ESPN 
Giants (8-4) at Vikings (5-7) FOX*

I voted for Patriots Vs. Bears, Patriots not at home, coming off a good match-up win, and now the Patriots playing a decent defence in Chicago, this should be a great game, but I don't care for either team but if I must like one it would be the Chicago Bears.

Pats/Bears was my choice but I think the first 3 can all be good.

Someone can remind me but if the Chargers lose that game they are done right? They have lost to the Raiders twice already and KC once so...

Eagles/Cowboys could go either way. I do not think the Eagles are as good as the hype they have recieved and are are soft but they are good at making the big play. I think if the Cowboys can play good solid football and also punch the Eagles in the mouth that team will put its tail between it legs and they can win.

Albert Haynesworth has been suspended for the Redskins' final four games by the team NFLN is reporting.

Someone can remind me but if the Chargers lose that game they are done right? They have lost to the Raiders twice already and KC once so...

Blazer88

That's correct. If the Chargers lose this, the best they can do is tie the Chiefs, and the Chiefs would win the tie-breaker.

They wouldn't be mathematically eliminated from a wild-card spot, but they would have an insanely small chance of getting that.

What I learned last week...

-Manning has become the biggest overrated guy in the NFL

-Brady = MVP

-Dallas should've made the move earlier

-So.....are the 49ers still in the "still have a chance to win the division" talk? 

Albert Haynesworth has been suspended for the Redskins' final four games by the team NFLN is reporting.

Blazer88

[QUOTE="Blazer88"]

Albert Haynesworth has been suspended for the Redskins' final four games by the team NFLN is reporting.

CommanderShiro

how much money did they give this guy again?

Jags vs Raiders because I'll be attending...CommanderShiro

Lies. No one in Jacksonville attends the football games.

[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]Jags vs Raiders because I'll be attending...wallymartin

Lies. No one in Jacksonville attends the football games.

[QUOTE="Blazer88"]

Someone can remind me but if the Chargers lose that game they are done right? They have lost to the Raiders twice already and KC once so...

garey017

That's correct. If the Chargers lose this, the best they can do is tie the Chiefs, and the Chiefs would win the tie-breaker.

They wouldn't be mathematically eliminated from a wild-card spot, but they would have an insanely small chance of getting that.

Yeah I was being lazy at the time but I looked it up later on. They have only won 1 divsion game so far. Just as shocking is the Raiders have played 4 division games and won them all.

What I learned last week...

-Manning has become the biggest overrated guy in the NFL

SonicRenegade84

I don't know if I would go that far. He is great QB for sure. I still feel Favre would easily win your "biggest overrated guy in the NFL" award if there was one.

Bucs gona end the years 7-9-0 just like i predicted b4 season startedRyder004

the bucs final four games are against the redskins,lions,seahawks and saints

i think they can beat the first 3

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

This is an NFL Playoff Picture simulator. It's pretty cool. Just select who you think is going to win each game, and a playoff picture is generated. It also sorts out playoff pictures.

lol funny thing i saw in skins forum

Fat Al, is inactive for this game as well. However, to punish him, Shanny doesn't allow him to eat at the team meal. Starving during the game, he rampages up through the stands and attacks a hotdog vendor and raids his bin of all hotdogs. Police corner him in one of the bathrooms (he only had a few more to eat before they showed up) and he eventually gives up by the 4th quarter (just like he would've had he played).

These are just some of my predictions.Thaiphoon

Patriots LB Brandon Spikes has been suspended efective imediately for 4 games for violating the leagues enhanced substance policy.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4689372/spikes-suspended-for-four-games

Patriots LB Brandon Spikes has been suspended efective imediately for 4 games for violating the leagues enhanced substance policy.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4689372/spikes-suspended-for-four-games

Blazer88

Isn't he the guy who gouged someone's eyes during a play a year or so ago while he was in college? What a scumbag.

The Chiefs are now listing Cassel as doubtful for the game against the Chargers. Figured people would want to know that for making thier pick for that game.

Edit...

Their coach still isn't saying anything so i would say maybe a gameday desicion.

[QUOTE="Blazer88"]

Patriots LB Brandon Spikes has been suspended efective imediately for 4 games for violating the leagues enhanced substance policy.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4689372/spikes-suspended-for-four-games

 

garey017

Isn't he the guy who gouged someone's eyes during a play a year or so ago while he was in college? What a scumbag.

Yup, at the Cocktail Party against Washaun Ealey I believe.

[QUOTE="garey017"][QUOTE="Blazer88"]

Patriots LB Brandon Spikes has been suspended efective imediately for 4 games for violating the leagues enhanced substance policy.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4689372/spikes-suspended-for-four-games

geaux321

Isn't he the guy who gouged someone's eyes during a play a year or so ago while he was in college? What a scumbag.

Yup, at the Cocktail Party against Washaun Ealey I believe.

it should be noted that in a statement put out with news of the supension Spikes says that the substance in question was neiether an illegal drug nor a performance enhancing one and rather a perscription one and the reports now coming out such as the one on NFL.com seem to confirm that he was taking ADHD drug.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ccf7c2/article/report-adhd-med-caused-positive-test-for-patriots-lb-spikes?module=HP_headlines

[QUOTE="geaux321"][QUOTE="garey017"][QUOTE="Blazer88"]

Patriots LB Brandon Spikes has been suspended efective imediately for 4 games for violating the leagues enhanced substance policy.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4689372/spikes-suspended-for-four-games

 

Blazer88

Isn't he the guy who gouged someone's eyes during a play a year or so ago while he was in college? What a scumbag.

Yup, at the Cocktail Party against Washaun Ealey I believe.

it should be noted that in a statement put out with news of the supension Spikes says that the substance in question was neiether an illegal drug nor a performance enhancing one and rather a perscription one and the reports now coming out such as the one on NFL.com seem to confirm that he was taking ADHD drug.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ccf7c2/article/report-adhd-med-caused-positive-test-for-patriots-lb-spikes?module=HP_headlines

I like the way he is handling the matter. Spikes was my DROY preseason pick. He is having a really good year for a rookie. He will be missed, but Gary Guyton will fill in fine.

Seriously, Cincinnati. Just because you guys suck and can't win games doesn't mean you can take it out on the Steelers.

BTW, WTB? Bills AND Lions win? 

what a ugly win but i will take it

and McCoy is our for the season and he joins that list with Brian Price

Our first and second round picks are both done for the season and thats where the biggest need on the team was at...

along with them Tanard is out this season for a suspension and backup rookie Safey Coddy Grimm is out for the year as well so we are playing  our 3rd FS...

Aqib Talib is also done for the season and also replaced by a rookie

On offense we have Jeff Faine our Center out for the season and our RG Davin Joseph done as well and he was our best o-lineman

On defense out of 11 players we got 1 rookie starting and 5 backups

On offense out of 11 players we got 6 rookies starting, 3 are on the o-line and the o-line only has 1 original starter

yeah injuries hit us hard

You guys see this where a Jets coach actually moves his knee out to hit a Maimi player as he was running down the field. Clearly the class of the league there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VILnbYThSA

The Pats are out of control

So are the Jets, but not in a good way.

You guys see this where a Jets coach actually moves his knee out to hit a Maimi player as he was running down the field. Clearly the class of the league there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VILnbYThSA

 

Blazer88

[QUOTE="Blazer88"]

You guys see this where a Jets coach actually moves his knee out to hit a Maimi player as he was running down the field. Clearly the class of the league there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VILnbYThSA

 

Bobbles

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Blazer88"]

You guys see this where a Jets coach actually moves his knee out to hit a Maimi player as he was running down the field. Clearly the class of the league there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VILnbYThSA

themyrmidon

oh believe me he will

The Pats are out of control

So are the Jets, but not in a good way.

garey017

They have ran thru arguably the best defenses in the league the Ravens earlier (with Moss) the Chargers, Steelers, Jets and now Da Bears.

 Patriots are looking really good. I am proud, but we have a ways to go before getting where we need to be.

congrats on beating my bears. We were simply outplayed hopefully they will learn from this and use it to their advantage for the final 3 games.

Now someone correct me if i am wrong on this but i want to make sure.

looking at the nfc north standings the bears are 1 game ahead of green bay and have a better division record 4-0 while green bay is 3-2 thanks to their loss to detroit today.

Now if the bears beat the vikings next week and the packers lose to the patriots that should give the bears the division title right?

because then we will have a 2 game lead and are gauranteed to finish with a better division record even if we lose the final 2 games am i correct or is there something i am missing something?

congrats on beating my bears. We were simply outplayed hopefully they will learn from this and use it to their advantage for the final 3 games.

Now someone correct me if i am wrong on this but i want to make sure.

looking at the nfc north standings the bears are 1 game ahead of green bay and have a better division record 4-0 while green bay is 3-2 thanks to their loss to detroit today.

Now if the bears beat the vikings next week and the packers lose to the patriots that should give the bears the division title right?

because then we will have a 2 game lead and are gauranteed to finish with a better division record even if we lose the final 2 games am i correct or is there something i am missing?

gamerguy456

Yes. If the Bears win out and Green Bay wins out, the final game of the season will determine who goes to the playoffs. If one team wins out and the other loses one game, that team is out of the playoff picture. 

[QUOTE="gamerguy456"]

congrats on beating my bears. We were simply outplayed hopefully they will learn from this and use it to their advantage for the final 3 games.

Now someone correct me if i am wrong on this but i want to make sure.

looking at the nfc north standings the bears are 1 game ahead of green bay and have a better division record 4-0 while green bay is 3-2 thanks to their loss to detroit today.

Now if the bears beat the vikings next week and the packers lose to the patriots that should give the bears the division title right?

because then we will have a 2 game lead and are gauranteed to finish with a better division record even if we lose the final 2 games am i correct or is there something i am missing?

SonicRenegade84

Yes. If the Bears win out and Green Bay wins out, the final game of the season will determine who goes to the playoffs. If one team wins out and the other loses one game, that team is out of the playoff picture.

good so a win next week coupled with a packers loss gets us in awesome. Easier said than done though especially with the way the vikings have been playing lately

i just realized the cardinals are still in the hunt for the nfc west thanks to losses by the seahawks and rams.

will we have a 7-9 team make the playoffs?

should a division winner with a 7-9 record be allowed in the playoffs?

I say yes to both questions solely due to the fact and i know people are getting tired of hearing this " anything can happen in the NFL"

heres what i think the nfl should do

if the wild card team has a better record than the division winner example saints 12-4 wild card and rams 7-9 nfc west champs then the wild card teams should get the home game.

However im still mixed with the second question because this season we could have 2-3 teams win 10-11 games and miss the playoffs

Honestly, that's what gets me too. I've seen 8-8 teams make the playoffs just because they won their division that has more sucky teams on it. That's why I feel sorry for the Cowboys. They have to go against the Eagles and Giants, two teams that usually never suck.

i just realized the cardinals are still in the hunt for the nfc west thanks to losses by the seahawks and rams.

will we have a 7-9 team make the playoffs?

should a division winner with a 7-9 record be allowed in the playoffs?

I say yes to both questions solely due to the fact and i know people are getting tired of hearing this " anything can happen in the NFL"

heres what i think the nfl should do

if the wild card team has a better record than the division winner example saints 12-4 wild card and rams 7-9 nfc west champs then the wild card teams should get the home game.

However im still mixed with the second question because this season we could have 2-3 teams win 10-11 games and miss the playoffs

gamerguy456

I thought the Seahawks would win the division with 8-8, maybe even 9-7. But now I'm not sure, they look horrible. Now I think a 7-9 team will win the division. And I have no clue who it will be. It may even be the 49ers, and just last week I was laughing at people who were saying they were still in it. But they've been looking like a mediocre team, and mediocre will win that division, sadly. Because the other teams are just bad. Rams have come a long way, but they're still pretty sad.

I do think a 7-9 team should be allowed in the playoffs if they win their division. Otherwise why even have divisions. It's a good system. Occasionally a better team will get "screwed" and miss the playoffs. But for the most part that's what the wildcard spots are for, to balance things out and give good teams a chance at the playoffs even if they're not the best in the division, record-wise.

Giving the teams with the best record the higher seeds regardless of whether or not they're a division leader isn't a bad idea. But I think I still like the current system. It intensifies the division rivalries. Look at Pittsburgh and Baltimore for example. They'll likely finish the season 1 game apart, maybe even tied. But one of those teams will get 2nd seed (probably) and the other will likely get 5th or 6th. So there's a lot riding on winning that division. Same with the NFC south, and maybe a couple more divisions.

i just realized the cardinals are still in the hunt for the nfc west thanks to losses by the seahawks and rams.

will we have a 7-9 team make the playoffs?

should a division winner with a 7-9 record be allowed in the playoffs?

I say yes to both questions solely due to the fact and i know people are getting tired of hearing this " anything can happen in the NFL"

heres what i think the nfl should do

if the wild card team has a better record than the division winner example saints 12-4 wild card and rams 7-9 nfc west champs then the wild card teams should get the home game.

However im still mixed with the second question because this season we could have 2-3 teams win 10-11 games and miss the playoffs

gamerguy456

It kind of sucks in some ways that bad teams can make into the playoffs but I overall like the sytem as it is and do not think it should change. First if a team really is that bad more often than not they will be knocked out anyways. I mean do you really think the Cards stand a chance against just about any of the top teams in the league? Jags can probably even crush them.

As for teams that get in because of being in a weak division...that is impossible to remedy because you cannot know who will be weak.

Finally it really shouldn't be the NFL's job to try to "FIX" these things. It up to a teams to make themselves better and by doing so their respective division with that.

Did the Texans really just do that?geaux321

oh yes they did and i have to say that was beautiful