the anti Natal gamers

the more people start gaming, the more money and new talent goes into to the games we love. Dancewiz2

The problem with your theory is that you are using logic. Logic does not exist when attempting to discuss an issue with a fanboy. And the "Xbox" fans are mostly PS3 and Wii fanboys trying to troll.

Is not giving a damn the same as being "anti-Natal"?DarkCatalyst

[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]Is not giving a damn the same as being "anti-Natal"?Dancewiz2

nintendo is dedicated to casual gamers, it has been for years. what I am saying is the 360 and the PS3 will make more casual games for there new motion capture systems. which will help bring money into are systems games. they will still make games for the more hard core games. Dancewiz2

Really. The Wii has banked more money than any system by bringing in new 'casual gamers'. FAR more money than 360 PC, or PS3. Now where are all of the great games being made from all of that new money, huh? Where are the great FPS, RPG, or big strategy titles? Oh yea, they are on the platforms that AREN'T dedicating themselves to casual gamers. What does the great selling Wii get? TONS of crapware, with a very light sprinkling of good first part titles.cybrcatter

[QUOTE="Dancewiz2"][QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]Is not giving a damn the same as being "anti-Natal"?DarkCatalyst

I agree. As long as it doesn't interfere with the games I want to play or how I want to play them, I couldn't care less.

Keep the controllers, ditch that full body interaction bullcrap. By the way, half of the E3 Natal video was fake, particularly the virtual kid thing was a huge hoax.

I mean, Peter Molyneux presented it and he's known for his blatant lies. Not a good endorsement if you ask me.

Keep the controllers, ditch that full body interaction bullcrap. By the way, half of the E3 Natal video was fake, particularly the virtual kid thing was a huge hoax.

I mean, Peter Molyneux presented it and he's known for his blatant lies. Not a good endorsement if you ask me.

Black_Knight_00

Yeah, that's why a ton of people got to actually interact with Milo and see it for themselves... Maybe you should think before you post. Just gonna throw that out there!

Maybe you should think before you post. Just gonna throw that out there!nickdastick

Milo will attract all the pedos into buying 360s! MS IS GENIUS! JK. Natal when i first heard of it i thought it was something perverted lol. Its just gonna be a gimmick like the Wii. The ppl who are tools will love it while the ppl who actually care about fun will be like wtf. Besides PS Eye is basically the same thing and its not really a money maker. The only thing natal really has is marketing. Just as MS has always done since bill gates beat down apple. They marketed and took away the customers other choices just like they always do. Ever see one of those I made Windows 7 possible BS commercials. Basically its all marketing. By making the possible customer feel good and be WOWed by stupid stuff just making it seem as the best thing since sliced bread they make money.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

Keep the controllers, ditch that full body interaction bullcrap. By the way, half of the E3 Natal video was fake, particularly the virtual kid thing was a huge hoax.

I mean, Peter Molyneux presented it and he's known for his blatant lies. Not a good endorsement if you ask me.

nickdastick

Yeah, that's why a ton of people got to actually interact with Milo and see it for themselves... Maybe you should think before you post. Just gonna throw that out there!

While I loved the Wii concept during it's debut, I've heard more and more the low sales figures of games other than first party titles. While Xbox is not Nintendo, I think the biggest downside to NATAL is the fact controller gimmicks don't make great gameplay. DDR, Guitar Hero, etc may start out fun, but once the excitement wears off, which score do they recieve? Definitely not on the top 100 list thats fure sure..

I'm definitely in the camp of people who couldnt care less about Natal so long as it doesn't effect there still being the steady stream of games that I want to play. What WILL rub me toward anger is if franchises I know and love suddenly start having Natal play an intricate role in new installments of those series.

Is not giving a damn the same as being "anti-Natal"?DarkCatalyst

I'm with this guy. Not giving a damn, by and large, is the way to go, in any given situation, all the time.

Although, I would give a damn if Microsoft were to put pressure on developers to implement Natal functionality into games where it is clearly an abomination against the laws of god and man. For instance, anyone thinking of trying to shoehorn Natal functionality into a shooter should themselves be shot...with a paintball gun, in the, umm...armpit. As such, Cliff, you're safe. That Natal demo using Burnout Paradise? You know, this one? Yeah, painball gun.

[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]Is not giving a damn the same as being "anti-Natal"?TomM_GScom

I'm with this guy. Not giving a damn, by and large, is the way to go, in any given situation, all the time.

Although, I would give a damn if Microsoft were to put pressure on developers to implement Natal functionality into games where it is clearly an abomination against the laws of god and man. For instance, anyone thinking of trying to shoehorn Natal functionality into a shooter should themselves be shot...with a paintball gun, in the, umm...armpit. As such, Cliff, you're safe. That Natal demo using Burnout Paradise? You know, this one? Yeah, painball gun.

Agreed. Here's hoping Microsoft is smart and doesn't forcibly add it into games just for the sake of adding it. We've already seen some developers do something along those lines with the Wii, and, well... you can probably imagine how well that worked.

So development studios should divert their(not THERE) talent a little while to make some crap kiddie title that will take them less time to develop and earn them far more money. Then you want them to go back to devoting their time to the next great thing that will cost a lot more, and have less revenue? That's a hard pacifier to let go of. Look at Maxis and the Sims and Sim City IPs. Which one did Will Wright say was becomming very complex to make? Which one was the easy cash cow? Which one have we not seen a new iteration of in many years?.

cybrcatter

Well i thought Natal had some cool parts to it, but Milo was Peter Molyneux's BS, how many things did you expect from fable 2 but didnt see? he cant be trusted, i heard there was alot of smoke and mirrors behind Milo, and knowing Molyneux for his trickery, i dont expect much from Milo. But if they start making good games for Natal, i might consider it, but ill still use my controller seeing how all of us have used them for years, even with the wii's motion sensing you still need a controller, Natal should be interesting.

I hate DS and Wii games where they don't give you the option to play with traditional controls. What if Punch-Out was motion controls only? Spirit Tracks is great but I wish I can play with the traditional d-pad with some touch screen that compliments the gameplay not take over.

I'll feel the same with Natal.

There will be games where Natal will work really well with, but developers are smart, I'm sure they'll know what works and what doesn't. Capcom won't make Ultra Super Street Fighter IV Dash Turbo X with Natal-only, LOL! But I do expect a ski-game with Natal. If it sounds like it'll work, it should work. If it sounds like it'll be ridiculous than they won't do it. It's really common sense.

i dont play xbox anymore. i know im not the only one. but here is what i would like to see happen. i would love for natal to go over really well, with no bad decisions made by micro. micro, i want a reason to pay u $100 to fix my xbox. i'll give you the upper hand on this one because you offer tech thats hands free with natal. the potential is vast. mothers and ppl with no tech literacy beyond a cell phone will be enticed provided its hands free. and lets face it. u have the ability to do anything anyone else does at least 2.5x better and break even should u decide to cut back on marketing. there is also close to no excuse for failure because of this. micro, do things right and i will love to enjoy your products. and this is something i think everyone could agree with, regardless of if they are being paid to say it.

I'm really looking forward to Natal myself. I thought the demonstration by Peter Molyneux of Milo showed some awesome potential and the other stuff looked pretty cool too.

I'm really looking forward to Natal myself. I thought the demonstration by Peter Molyneux of Milo showed some awesome potential and the other stuff looked pretty cool too.

Archangel3371

If Natal didn't meet or exceed my expectation, that's when I'll be "anti Natal" but so far I'm looking forward using the Natal to watch Netflix and stuff like that.

small things like that would help the game feel more real Dancewiz2

If Natal didn't meet or exceed my expectation, that's when I'll be "anti Natal" but so far I'm looking forward using the Natal to watch Netflix and stuff like that.

gago-gago

I think Natal would be cool. But I don't play Xbox 360 that much, but I still think the idea would be cool.