And so it begins.. the life of the Playstation 2 is coming to an end.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/28/playstation-2-discontinued-in-japan-after-almost-13-years-of-ser/
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And so it begins.. the life of the Playstation 2 is coming to an end.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/28/playstation-2-discontinued-in-japan-after-almost-13-years-of-ser/
I was wondering when they were gonna stop making those things, not for any particular reason, I just wondered how people are either still buying them or Sony is just happily continuing to manufacture them.
I myself still needs to get a PS2, I used to play it but I didn't really play it all that much, the same with the PS1 (I just played Crash Bandicoot and Spyro on the thing), that's it.
Maybe I should invest some time...
makes sense, PS4 is probably pretty far into development, there is no reason to keep the PS2 going, even in a limited fashion , same thing happened with the PS1 , when Sony stopped supporting it in 2006 just before the PS3 was released
maybe the console will be cheaper once it gets discontinued , a new PS2 still costs over £100, when it really shouldn't be selling for half of that.
why? they will be as easy to find as can be in the rest of our lives.
bultje112
An unlikely event could occur where all PS2`s you find on Ebay after the console is fully discontinued turns out to be used and in bad condition..
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I need to get myself a back-up PS2.LP4EVA2005Same here.
I've been getting "backups" for a few years now. Including the one I play on regularly I have three slims at the moment. I hope to pick them up wenever I can for cheap. I want to be enjoying the PS2 until I'm dead.
While this is very sad news, it's not really a surprise. We all knew it was going to happen any time now. Aside from a few sports and FPS games, the PS2 has had a total lack of games being released for it since probably late 2008. The only reason why Sony has still made them is because people were still buying them to play on the great games on the PS2 (myself included). I'll probably buy one last new PS2 to join my backups in order to ensure I'm playing the PS2 for years and years to come. RIP PS2 2000 - 2012
Despite the PS2 still being manufactured for the last decade, why do I have so much trouble trying to find a brand new one from a retailer? I live in the UK, and I've seen nothing.
NirdBerd
I wish I could give you more advice on where to get a new one in the UK, but here in the US, a few big retailers such as Toys R' Us and a few Gamestops still have a few new slims in stock. In fact, about a month ago I saw a brand new slim at Toys R' Us for $80. I thought about getting it (and wish I would have now) but was already in the whole with my holiday shopping. I'd try big Toy and electronics retailers in the UK, they might have some in their inventory still. Hell, I used to work with a company that still had new original Gameboys in the backroom, and this was in 2007.
you can find them on Amazon , brand new. the problem is the price, not availability.Despite the PS2 still being manufactured for the last decade, why do I have so much trouble trying to find a brand new one from a retailer? I live in the UK, and I've seen nothing.
NirdBerd
[QUOTE="NirdBerd"]you can find them on Amazon , brand new. the problem is the price, not availability.Despite the PS2 still being manufactured for the last decade, why do I have so much trouble trying to find a brand new one from a retailer? I live in the UK, and I've seen nothing.
Darkman2007
I've only seen overpriced PS2s from merchants rather than Amazon themselves
you can find them on Amazon , brand new. the problem is the price, not availability.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="NirdBerd"]
Despite the PS2 still being manufactured for the last decade, why do I have so much trouble trying to find a brand new one from a retailer? I live in the UK, and I've seen nothing.
NirdBerd
I've only seen overpriced PS2s from merchants rather than Amazon themselves
right now, its the sellers, but beforehand Amazon did stock PS2s (I remember checking a few weeks ago) , and it cost in the region of £120 if I remember correctly. obviouysly you can get a cheap PS2 used, especially if its the original bulky PS2, but.....[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Or just buy a refurbrished PS3 60gb for ~220$ like a person with a brain.NirdBerd
Yeah, maybe...
there is a problem with that. the PAL PS3s didn't use hardware BC like the Japanese and US ones, they used software emulation to play PS2 and PS1 games. for PS1 games, that works, but for PS2 games it didn't, Ive personally used a 60GB PS3 (brother had one at the time) with some PS2 games and the results were all over the place, some games had visual problems, or problems with the sound, some games had slowdown , etc. save your money and get a PS2 , preferably a slim PS2.As i type, i am dismantling an SCPH-70003 because i've decided that it's far, far cheaper to buy a couple of spare lasers than to buy a couple of new PS2's.
The only thing that concerns me is that the laser in it currently is completely kaput, and it's likely the replacements will go the same way after 6 years use too. This falls some way short of my PS2's lasting me til i'm 60.
I'm hoping that the SCPH-75003 i'm now using will last double the time at least.
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As for new PS2's, a quick Google has sourced some brand new ones in the UK for £120. I think this is a reasonable cost for something that will last 5 years without requiring maintainence. I've just decided to go down the new laser route as my consoles are otherwise in perfect condition.
Though i'll probably buy one more anyway, just because.
[QUOTE="NirdBerd"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Or just buy a refurbrished PS3 60gb for ~220$ like a person with a brain.Darkman2007
Yeah, maybe...
there is a problem with that. the PAL PS3s didn't use hardware BC like the Japanese and US ones, they used software emulation to play PS2 and PS1 games. for PS1 games, that works, but for PS2 games it didn't, Ive personally used a 60GB PS3 (brother had one at the time) with some PS2 games and the results were all over the place, some games had visual problems, or problems with the sound, some games had slowdown , etc. save your money and get a PS2 , preferably a slim PS2. Almost all games work fine on the older PS3 model NTSC. PAL is gross, nobody wants that. The only problem is that the console itself may break, but if it's only around 220$ and apparently refurbrished, it isn't that big of a loss. OFC I already have a SMD rework station, I just don't have a clamp or the stencils but that's like 40$ and it will work forever after that ofc.Yeah but as you know PS2's can "break" pretty easily, they aren't the mot reliable systems out there. So I'd rather get one or two new ones now than wait until the only PS2's I can find at a decent price are in poor condition.why? they will be as easy to find as can be in the rest of our lives.
bultje112
[QUOTE="bultje112"]Yeah but as you know PS2's can "break" pretty easily, they aren't the mot reliable systems out there. So I'd rather get one or two new ones now than wait until the only PS2's I can find at a decent price are in poor condition.why? they will be as easy to find as can be in the rest of our lives.
Dudersaper
I own and have owned over 30 systems in the past 20 years, about 4 of them ever broke, no ps2. game systems are very reliable overall. only current generation can be a problem
Yeah but as you know PS2's can "break" pretty easily, they aren't the mot reliable systems out there. So I'd rather get one or two new ones now than wait until the only PS2's I can find at a decent price are in poor condition.[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="bultje112"]
why? they will be as easy to find as can be in the rest of our lives.
bultje112
I own and have owned over 30 systems in the past 20 years, about 4 of them ever broke, no ps2. game systems are very reliable overall. only current generation can be a problem
I'm not saying the PS2 is unreliable, it's just not the sturdiest one. If I have some kind of accident of tripping on the controller and the console falling on the ground, it can easily break (just as any console), or the common laser problem, etc. I have 2 PS2's (because one has that laser problem and I had to get another), and it's not uncommon to find people that say they went through one or two PS2's. It's also not uncommon to see people who have the same PS2 they bought at launch still working. I'd just rather be safe than sorry and have one around in case something happens to mine.[QUOTE="bultje112"][QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Yeah but as you know PS2's can "break" pretty easily, they aren't the mot reliable systems out there. So I'd rather get one or two new ones now than wait until the only PS2's I can find at a decent price are in poor condition.Dudersaper
I own and have owned over 30 systems in the past 20 years, about 4 of them ever broke, no ps2. game systems are very reliable overall. only current generation can be a problem
I'm not saying the PS2 is unreliable, it's just not the sturdiest one. If I have some kind of accident of tripping on the controller and the console falling on the ground, it can easily break (just as any console), or the common laser problem, etc. I have 2 PS2's (because one has that laser problem and I had to get another), and it's not uncommon to find people that say they went through one or two PS2's. It's also not uncommon to see people who have the same PS2 they bought at launch still working. I'd just rather be safe than sorry and have one around in case something happens to mine.As much as I love the PS2, I have been through two so far (both fat models) that broke on me. The first was my launch model and the second was it's replacement which broke do to a combination of being misused and the lasor waring out. They're better than a 360 in terms of reliablility, but still not the most reliable console out there.
Still rolling with my SCHP-50004, only problem is that the lens doesn't read CD's (bluebacks) other than that it works fine. I really need to get a slim PS2 just in case anything happens.
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I hope you f'n die
[QUOTE="NirdBerd"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Or just buy a refurbrished PS3 60gb for ~220$ like a person with a brain.Darkman2007
Yeah, maybe...
there is a problem with that. the PAL PS3s didn't use hardware BC like the Japanese and US ones, they used software emulation to play PS2 and PS1 games. for PS1 games, that works, but for PS2 games it didn't, Ive personally used a 60GB PS3 (brother had one at the time) with some PS2 games and the results were all over the place, some games had visual problems, or problems with the sound, some games had slowdown , etc. save your money and get a PS2 , preferably a slim PS2.Don't forget that those fat PS3 models can overheat and burn the motherboard which is irreparable, just like it was the case with the earlier XBOX 360 systems.
there is a problem with that. the PAL PS3s didn't use hardware BC like the Japanese and US ones, they used software emulation to play PS2 and PS1 games. for PS1 games, that works, but for PS2 games it didn't, Ive personally used a 60GB PS3 (brother had one at the time) with some PS2 games and the results were all over the place, some games had visual problems, or problems with the sound, some games had slowdown , etc. save your money and get a PS2 , preferably a slim PS2.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="NirdBerd"]
Yeah, maybe...
Panzer_Zwei
Don't forget that those fat PS3 models can overheat and burn the motherboard which is irreparable, just like it was the case with the earlier XBOX 360 systems.
exactly. this happens all the time. although 360 has far worse hardware problems, the earlier versions die down very quick
Or just buy a refurbrished PS3 60gb for ~220$ like a person with a brain.JigglyWiggly_My brothers failed twice and he had a third party cooling fan running at max all the time using it. Personally I will stick to using a gaming pc with a dvd drive as my "backup" altough I guess having one around for games that don't work wouldn't be a bad idea.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] there is a problem with that. the PAL PS3s didn't use hardware BC like the Japanese and US ones, they used software emulation to play PS2 and PS1 games. for PS1 games, that works, but for PS2 games it didn't, Ive personally used a 60GB PS3 (brother had one at the time) with some PS2 games and the results were all over the place, some games had visual problems, or problems with the sound, some games had slowdown , etc. save your money and get a PS2 , preferably a slim PS2.bultje112
Don't forget that those fat PS3 models can overheat and burn the motherboard which is irreparable, just like it was the case with the earlier XBOX 360 systems.
exactly. this happens all the time. although 360 has far worse hardware problems, the earlier versions die down very quick
burn the motherboard? are you guys kidding? You can put a heatgun up to a pcb and it won't break[QUOTE="bultje112"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
Don't forget that those fat PS3 models can overheat and burn the motherboard which is irreparable, just like it was the case with the earlier XBOX 360 systems.
JigglyWiggly_
exactly. this happens all the time. although 360 has far worse hardware problems, the earlier versions die down very quick
burn the motherboard? are you guys kidding? You can put a heatgun up to a pcb and it won't breakIt doesn't break, it overheats and busts the system's board beyond repair.
That's the main fault of the fat PS3 and specially of the earlier XBOX 360 models.
The newer slim models don't have this issue. They might have other hardware faults, but they don't overheat at least.
what is this kid with disgusting blue text even talking about
the solder becomes oxidized and brittle and breaks
hence why "baking" a 360 works as a temporary fix
you can fix it perm by blowing hot air on the GPU and removing the gpu with tweezers.
then cleaning off the solder with solder wick
getting solder balls, a clamp and stencil, you put solderballs over the stencil and heatgun onto the gpu directly.
then you put that back on the motherboard and resolder it by heating it up again
inb4 some kid who thinks x clamp is a perm fix
Sure, whatever you say. It's not like that's the #1 reason those old systems busted, and why they have stockpiles of those same busted systems around here.what is this kid with disgusting blue text even talking about
the solder becomes oxidized and brittle and breaks
hence why "baking" a 360 works as a temporary fix
you can fix it perm by blowing hot air on the GPU and removing the gpu with tweezers.
then cleaning off the solder with solder wick
getting solder balls, a clamp and stencil, you put solderballs over the stencil and heatgun onto the gpu directly.
then you put that back on the motherboard and resolder it by heating it up again
inb4 some kid who thinks x clamp is a perm fix
JigglyWiggly_
Anyone who does system repairs around here knows about that heatgun hack, but the board is already busted and will overheat again no matter what you do.
If you're lucky you might get the system running 2-3 times, but no matter if you keep a cooling fan attached to the system, it will die off again in few gaming hours. You cannot fix it in spite of your ignorant claim.
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