Challenge vs Fun?

I have a question...do people out there prefer fun games, challenging games or a game that incorporates both? I personally find challenging games to actually be fun. I like the challenge, and I enjoy making progress by overcoming adverse, challenging situations. My friend, who is a casual gamer, says he plays just for fun, but he plays the same games I do (since he doesn't have a computer and he plays on mine). I think games can be both, I just wondered what other people liked, and/or what their outlook on challenging vs fun was. I probably haven't "voiced" this too well, sorry.

Give me fun every time - I can find enough challenges in real life!

You know, I don't think those 2 things are ever in competition. It isn't like those 2 things are inversely related.

When you bring that up though, the first game that came to mind was Bioshock, a game where losing is impossible and shooting dudes in the face isn't done very well at all. That is a game where a lack of challenge totally destroyed any chance I had of having fun. When there is no penalty for doing bad, it's hard to care about what you are doing in the game.

I like a good balance between the two, While I do enjoy a challenge, i only like it to a point. If a game gets too challenging, to me it is no longer fun. Like someone mentioned as an example above, a boss that is too difficult or an area where I continually die, or a mission that I just can't seem to pass no matter how many times I try (one particular assassination in Assassings Creed comes to mind. I still haven't managed to kill the guy)

I like a game that's fairly challenging, but of course some games can go way too far. It has a lot to do with the design - some games I get killed a lot but I want to try again right away because I know that if I improve my tactics and make less mistakes, I can beat it. But other games screw it up - They're hard, but it feels like more a matter of luck than anything. I really don't enjoy games that are easy, they're too simple, boring, and they just don't require any effort or reward you with any sense of accomplishment.

A game like SW:TFU jumps to mind. Most of the game is pretty easy. especially later on, but,it's fun in that star wars way. but, And you know where I going befor I say it, dragging that Star Destroyer out of the sky took me an hour and a half... not joking. first few attempts I died.the next few attempts i got frustrated and left the game.

then, later, i tried some more. and it was this sesseion of a straight hour twiddling those disastrous thumb stick pictures until the blasted thing dropped. It's an infuriating experience that almost, almost spoils the game. And it's a simple concept really, but those terriblethumbstick pormptsare just deadly. i'd have prefered arrows, or anything to make it clearer as to where and when you're supposed to push and pull the destroyer...

but, as soon as the sucker comes down, you get back to it... i actually think the game is very good.

The nextone that annoyed the hell outta em at the time was RAAM at the end of gears... the rest of the game was a bit a of a cake walk and a lot of fun once i got the hang of the cover system. but RAAM was a goddam nightmare.I could see the pattern, but just kept getting chopped to bits by his insane weapon, or the Kryll. and Dom, WTF is up with that guy? lol he's a dumb a$$ lol. but, i got it done with the boomshot sniper rifle combo in the end. but, i almost gave up... almost.

I like a good balance between the two, While I do enjoy a challenge, i only like it to a point. If a game gets too challenging, to me it is no longer fun. Like someone mentioned as an example above, a boss that is too difficult or an area where I continually die, or a mission that I just can't seem to pass no matter how many times I try (one particular assassination in Assassings Creed comes to mind. I still haven't managed to kill the guy)

92GreenYJ

Fun for me.

Real life is hard enough as it is. I don't need my video games on extreme difficulty as well.

A game like SW:TFU jumps to mind. Most of the game is pretty easy. especially later on, but,it's fun in that star wars way. but, And you know where I going befor I say it, dragging that Star Destroyer out of the sky took me an hour and a half... not joking. first few attempts I died.the next few attempts i got frustrated and left the game.

then, later, i tried some more. and it was this sesseion of a straight hour twiddling those disastrous thumb stick pictures until the blasted thing dropped. It's an infuriating experience that almost, almost spoils the game. And it's a simple concept really, but those terriblethumbstick pormptsare just deadly. i'd have prefered arrows, or anything to make it clearer as to where and when you're supposed to push and pull the destroyer...

but, as soon as the sucker comes down, you get back to it... i actually think the game is very good.

For game, for fun, for life. I think challenge is a kind of fun we can't experience in reality

There are games that mix the two perfectly, like The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai. When my friends played it, they died over and over and over again, but they still enjoyed it to an extent that they played it for 2 days straight. (On easy)

I, on the other hand, am trying to beat it on Samurai (hardest) difficulty. It's not really difficult in the sense that the enemies are too cheap or too punishing, it's just the fact that when the difficulty rises, the less hits it takes to kill you.

Uhh, sorry for my ramble. :lol:

There are games that mix the two perfectly, like The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai. When my friends played it, they died over and over and over again, but they still enjoyed it to an extent that they played it for 2 days straight. (On easy)

I, on the other hand, am trying to beat it on Samurai (hardest) difficulty. It's not really difficult in the sense that the enemies are too cheap or too punishing, it's just the fact that when the difficulty rises, the less hits it takes to kill you.

Uhh, sorry for my ramble. :lol:

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There are games that mix the two perfectly, like The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai. When my friends played it, they died over and over and over again, but they still enjoyed it to an extent that they played it for 2 days straight. (On easy)

I, on the other hand, am trying to beat it on Samurai (hardest) difficulty. It's not really difficult in the sense that the enemies are too cheap or too punishing, it's just the fact that when the difficulty rises, the less hits it takes to kill you.

Uhh, sorry for my ramble. :lol:

Odnomiar

Yeah, the lack of enemy variety is one of it's flaws, but it's still awesome nonetheless. :P

But I think I got killed by the Freaks more than anything else.

Challenge vs. Fun...what's the difference? If you like challenging games, then it shouldmean that you have fun with them, right?

Challenge vs. Fun...what's the difference? If you like challenging games, then it shouldmean that you have fun with them, right?

King9999

Mostly they go together, but sometimes games are too hard to be fun. It becomes a chore, and once video games are comprable to taking out garbage or mopping, they are no longer fun.

Fun. That's why we play games...

That having been said, if it's too easy, it's probably no as much fun. But I'd rather have fun with an easy game than be frustrated with an overly challenging game.

I prefer playing fun games i haven't got the patience to play challenging games anymore.

I go for a mix. Some games (like CoD) I'll play on Veteran and really push myself to beat the game. Challenging, frustrating, but somehow rewarding. I need a break though when I get too frustrated, so I like to have some flat out fun games (ex. online multiplayer for Mercs 2) and just relax a bit.

both really... challenge is when im bored and fun when i want to have fun

Fun of course :D

I usually play games on easy.

Fun. Sometimes that comes from the challenge. I won't play a game if I only get frustrated right?

I love chalenges and it is fun ^^