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IMO, you're not missing much. Unless you're on a very nostalgic kick and some of the VC titles are making you anxious, the Wii's current library is repetitive and quickly forgotten. Not being able to find one right now might be a blessing in disguise. Wait till they are readily available and then pick one up. Hopefully by then they'll have moved beyond making mini-games and bad ports.Velric
You are of course asuming that the inclusion of better titles being available will somehow slow down sales, and yet I feel they will increase, if anything.
I say get one as soon as is feasibly possible, we don't really have any idea when these shortages will cease.
[QUOTE="Velric"]IMO, you're not missing much. Unless you're on a very nostalgic kick and some of the VC titles are making you anxious, the Wii's current library is repetitive and quickly forgotten. Not being able to find one right now might be a blessing in disguise. Wait till they are readily available and then pick one up. Hopefully by then they'll have moved beyond making mini-games and bad ports.Mantorok
You are of course asuming that the inclusion of better titles being available will somehow slow down sales, and yet I feel they will increase, if anything.
I say get one as soon as is feasibly possible, we don't really have any idea when these shortages will cease.
Exactly what I was thinking of doing.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
And yea, my cousin wanted one, he called probably what was it... 8 stores within a 25 mile radius of his home. One Target just got 5 Wiis in literally 30 minutes before he called. By the time he got in his car and flew to the store, 3 were already gone.
So besides the fact that Nintendo can't seem to make/release enough consoles for the public, they are extremely popular still. I got mine out of sheer dumb luck I still believe.
Not that this makes you feel better, but something like... August is when most people think Wii's will be freely available.
Yeah - they couldn't have made THE SAME MISTAKE "accidently" like the Xbox 360. It smells really fishy to me...People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
And yea, my cousin wanted one, he called probably what was it... 8 stores within a 25 mile radius of his home. One Target just got 5 Wiis in literally 30 minutes before he called. By the time he got in his car and flew to the store, 3 were already gone.
So besides the fact that Nintendo can't seem to make/release enough consoles for the public, they are extremely popular still. I got mine out of sheer dumb luck I still believe.
Not that this makes you feel better, but something like... August is when most people think Wii's will be freely available.
SemiMaster
[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
Skylock00
While I personally have no proof, there is no proof to the contrary either.
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
SemiMaster
While I personally have no proof, there is no proof to the contrary either.
What good would it do at this point? Even if supply contraint generates further hype, you usually want to cash in on that at some point. Usually sometime in the months following Christmas. The idea is to generate enough interest to create a steady flow of software sales into the next year. Why would they be purposefully constraining supply in June?
Keep in mind purposeful supply constraint slows sales. Why would you be doing that on purpose this far into the year? At this point, it's less about people desperate to get one... and more about some of them just giving up. And you're losing most potential impulse buys, something that should be a major advantage for the Wii.
Fact of the matter is that there's no tangible benefit to purposeful supply constraint, not in the middle of June. It was a valid theory maybe a few months ago, but come on, seven months after launch? I don't think so. If anything, they'd want to really stock up for the impending release of the first major post-launch title: Metroid Prime 3.
Since it launched I have never seen a Wii on a store shelf. Not one. Now, I haven't gone out of my way to find out when shipments arrive or anything like that, but it's still pretty incredible (and annoying) that they aren't more widely available this long after launch.
Then again, if I saw one on the shelf I'd probably buy it, so its shortage saves me money for the time being.
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
SemiMaster
While I personally have no proof, there is no proof to the contrary either.
Just becuase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
:D I kid I kid.
My advice is to check out Comp USA. I've seen Wii's there more often than anywhere else. Not many mind you, but I think a lot of people forget to look at Com USA when they want one, and the average Comp USA shopper doesn't really care about them.
[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
Skylock00
Being currently employed by Gamestop, I would also toss my hat into the ring and say that Nintendo is intentionally holding back production. Financially, with the hype of the system and the constant sales of the meager availability it makes sense for Nintendo to hold back production to keep their stocks and profits at a constantly strong and increasing point.
[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
Oilers99
While I personally have no proof, there is no proof to the contrary either.
What good would it do at this point? Even if supply contraint generates further hype, you usually want to cash in on that at some point. Usually sometime in the months following Christmas. The idea is to generate enough interest to create a steady flow of software sales into the next year. Why would they be purposefully constraining supply in June?
Keep in mind purposeful supply constraint slows sales. Why would you be doing that on purpose this far into the year? At this point, it's less about people desperate to get one... and more about some of them just giving up. And you're losing most potential impulse buys, something that should be a major advantage for the Wii.
Fact of the matter is that there's no tangible benefit to purposeful supply constraint, not in the middle of June. It was a valid theory maybe a few months ago, but come on, seven months after launch? I don't think so. If anything, they'd want to really stock up for the impending release of the first major post-launch title: Metroid Prime 3.
Read my post slightly above this one. There is significant benefit to Nintento witholding production on their system.
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
Velric
Being currently employed by Gamestop, I would also toss my hat into the ring and say that Nintendo is intentionally holding back production. Financially, with the hype of the system and the constant sales of the meager availability it makes sense for Nintendo to hold back production to keep their stocks and profits at a constantly strong and increasing point.
But why does NPD publish very high Wii sales every month when intentional shortages would drastically reduce the figures to below those of other competing systems? Is there a conspiracy involving nintendo in coup with NPD to present false numbers?
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the shortage comes from unexpected demand. Nobody expected it to do this well..........in fact I wouldn't be shocked if Nintendo themselves were rather surprised. Even 6 months after the holiday season it's still in high demand.
Seeing little slowdown by March probably should have been an indication to put Wii production in full throttle mode, but they may have been tentative to do so for fear of a demand dropoff so here we are in June with high demand and low supply. Is that the case? Hell if I know, I don't work for Nintendo. It's just a guess.
[QUOTE="Velric"]IMO, you're not missing much. Unless you're on a very nostalgic kick and some of the VC titles are making you anxious, the Wii's current library is repetitive and quickly forgotten. Not being able to find one right now might be a blessing in disguise. Wait till they are readily available and then pick one up. Hopefully by then they'll have moved beyond making mini-games and bad ports.Mantorok
You are of course asuming that the inclusion of better titles being available will somehow slow down sales, and yet I feel they will increase, if anything.
I say get one as soon as is feasibly possible, we don't really have any idea when these shortages will cease.
That advice makes no sense whatsoever unless you think that the demand for the Wii is exponentially increasing. It's not and it won't. Either Nintendo meets monthly demand or they don't and so far they haven't. When they do, you'll see it on shelves. Anyway, I have to agree with the poster before you. You aren't missing much for lacking a Wii at the moment. Not much at all.
[QUOTE="Velric"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
banjobear_basic
Being currently employed by Gamestop, I would also toss my hat into the ring and say that Nintendo is intentionally holding back production. Financially, with the hype of the system and the constant sales of the meager availability it makes sense for Nintendo to hold back production to keep their stocks and profits at a constantly strong and increasing point.
But why does NPD publish very high Wii sales every month when intentional shortages would drastically reduce the figures to below those of other competing systems? Is there a conspiracy involving nintendo in coup with NPD to present false numbers?
When I say shortage, I mean the console is not fairly distributed in certain areas of the US for instance. While I understand the major metropolitan areas are the highest priority, does 2 consoles every 2 or 3 weeks per store sound like a REALISTIC number? Because that's what my local Best Buy and Electronics Boutique have told me.
But most are going to Japan, duh. I don't doubt the sales are as high as they are, fanboys interpret what I'm saying as doubting. I am saying that the amount being leaked to the public are constrained simply to keep the interest high. OMG it's so hard to find, I gotta buy it just cuz' everyone's momma has one.
Thats how Nintendo is creating an artificial shortage. They clearly have the capabilities to pump the machine out, I mean how hard it is it to make last gen hardware with a controller that has an accelerometer and IR transmitters? It's not like they are making the Cell processor or something...
[QUOTE="Velric"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
banjobear_basic
Being currently employed by Gamestop, I would also toss my hat into the ring and say that Nintendo is intentionally holding back production. Financially, with the hype of the system and the constant sales of the meager availability it makes sense for Nintendo to hold back production to keep their stocks and profits at a constantly strong and increasing point.
But why does NPD publish very high Wii sales every month when intentional shortages would drastically reduce the figures to below those of other competing systems? Is there a conspiracy involving nintendo in coup with NPD to present false numbers?
Egads, a banjobear post that isn't entirely sarcastic. Someone take a picture. :P
[QUOTE="Oilers99"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
Velric
While I personally have no proof, there is no proof to the contrary either.
What good would it do at this point? Even if supply contraint generates further hype, you usually want to cash in on that at some point. Usually sometime in the months following Christmas. The idea is to generate enough interest to create a steady flow of software sales into the next year. Why would they be purposefully constraining supply in June?
Keep in mind purposeful supply constraint slows sales. Why would you be doing that on purpose this far into the year? At this point, it's less about people desperate to get one... and more about some of them just giving up. And you're losing most potential impulse buys, something that should be a major advantage for the Wii.
Fact of the matter is that there's no tangible benefit to purposeful supply constraint, not in the middle of June. It was a valid theory maybe a few months ago, but come on, seven months after launch? I don't think so. If anything, they'd want to really stock up for the impending release of the first major post-launch title: Metroid Prime 3.
Read my post slightly above this one. There is significant benefit to Nintento witholding production on their system.
Yes, and I acknowledge the benefit of doing so... to a point. However, I must remind you that you have to cash in on this hype at some point, before people start giving up on the product altogether. Furthermore, this is a system that A) sells systems through word of mouth and people playing the system directly, so you'd want to get it into as many homes as possible and B) is the closest thing to an impulse buy among the three next-generation consoles. Purposeful supply constraint makes less sense for the Wii than virtually any other console, past or present. Furthermore, the general point is to create this hype so that you can get product on store shelves by Christmas. It's June. Seven months after launch. The first blockbuster title of the year is coming in a little over a month. Again, if they were purposefully not meeting demand, the time to start shipping enough consoles to meet it was, I dunno, about one or two months ago. It simply does not make any business sense at this point to keep Wiis off store shelves.
And remember, there are an awful lot of Wiis being sold every month. It's not like they're only shipping 100k a month.
Plain and simple fact is that Nintendo, if they could, would be selling a Wii to every man, woman and child at this point. But they can't, because they didn't expect this much initial demand for the system. Virtually nobody did.
[QUOTE="banjobear_basic"][QUOTE="Velric"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Given the volume of systems moving, I still don't quite see how this is somehow some sort of artificial supply constrain issue at all, though.People are going flame me for this, but I still feel that the Wii is being artificially constrained.
SemiMaster
Being currently employed by Gamestop, I would also toss my hat into the ring and say that Nintendo is intentionally holding back production. Financially, with the hype of the system and the constant sales of the meager availability it makes sense for Nintendo to hold back production to keep their stocks and profits at a constantly strong and increasing point.
But why does NPD publish very high Wii sales every month when intentional shortages would drastically reduce the figures to below those of other competing systems? Is there a conspiracy involving nintendo in coup with NPD to present false numbers?
When I say shortage, I mean the console is not fairly distributed in certain areas of the US for instance. While I understand the major metropolitan areas are the highest priority, does 2 consoles every 2 or 3 weeks per store sound like a REALISTIC number? Because that's what my local Best Buy and Electronics Boutique have told me.
But most are going to Japan, duh. I don't doubt the sales are as high as they are, fanboys interpret what I'm saying as doubting. I am saying that the amount being leaked to the public are constrained simply to keep the interest high. OMG it's so hard to find, I gotta buy it just cuz' everyone's momma has one.
Thats how Nintendo is creating an artificial shortage. They clearly have the capabilities to pump the machine out, I mean how hard it is it to make last gen hardware with a controller that has an accelerometer and IR transmitters? It's not like they are making the Cell processor or something...
It's not a matter of difficulty to make. But keep in mind that even if this thing is only slightly harder to make than the Gamecube, when did they ever need to make these many Gamecubes per month? They simply didn't have the resources lined up at the appropriate time to cash in on this level of demand, because nobody, inside or outside Nintendo, expected demand to go beyond the six million worldwide they were projecting by March 2006.
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