[QUOTE="LordelX"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Also in my opinion the games from the PS1 and 64 have aged terribly. Now I can notice headache inducing framerates, bad textures, pop ups, fogging, etc. I just cant sit down and play my 64 anymore. It is easy to go back to NES and SNES games because it provided bright 2-D with clear graphics. Also the GCN plays and looks just fine even though next-gen gaming is here.CFH90
I couldn't agree more. Other than Nintendo's first party offerings, the N64 releases were mostly garbage. Rare is completely overrated....Blast Corps and Goldeneye 007 were great games and that's about it. Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong 64 were better when it was called Super Mario 64, Diddy Kong Racing was better when it was called Mariokart 64 and Perfect Dark, while technically ambitious, is completely unplayable by today's standards. Conker was absolute trash, about as mature a game as a 10 year old quoting Animal House dialogue. Jet Force Gemini and Killer Instinct Gold were not particularily good memories.
The N64 has 4 major games in it's favour as far as revolutions go: Super Mario 64, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye 007 and Starfox 64. Let's even consider the argument that Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker and Twlight Princess, Starfox Adventures and Starfox Assult are substantially lesser games ( a stance I don't agree with at all ). The Gamecube had more revolutionary games, and more often: Metriod Prime, REmake, Resident Evil 4, Eternal Darkness Animal Crossing and Pikmin. Even many franchises vastly improved on Gamecube: Rogue Squadron 2, F-Zero GX, Super Smash Brothers Melee, Waverace: Blue Storm and Paper Mario...all much much better on Gamecube.
Third Party support on the N64? Yeah, 50 other "me too" shooters ( Turok, Duke Nukem',Quake, Doom, Hexen ) and terrible fighters ( Mace, MK: Trilogy, War Gods, Dark Rift, Fighter's Destiny ) don't hold a candle to the Gamecube's Timesplitter's, Soul Caliber 2. The N64 didn't get quality third party titles like Prince of Persia, Hitman 2, Freedom Fighters, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Killer 7, Splinter Cell, Beyond Good & Evil, Viewtiful Joe or hardly any of the EA sports titles. Where were the RPG's for the 64? Quest 64, Ogre Battle 64 and Aidyn Chronicles don't come anywhere near the quality of Tales of Symphonia, Skies of Arcadia, Fire Emblem and Phantasy Star Online. Two of the N64's best games, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are available for Gamecube with better visuals.
Only someone looking at the past through rose-colored glasses could say the N64 was a better time than Gamecube. Even though many of you started gaming on the N64, that's not reason enough to overlook all of it's glaring flaws...unless you had no idea what you were missing. While you guys were playing Conker, I had already moved on to Dreamcast. The N64 was Nintendo's worst system, hands down. **** the N64. I'm glad it's dead.
This is yet another example on this forum of people who think their opinion should override everyone else's. I'm sorry but you simply cannot come in here and start telling people who loved the N64 that they shouldn't have. The flaws that you have pointed out are only evident by TODAY'S standards, which is not a valid arguement because the console wasn't made for the here and now.
The games that you have dismissed as 'not particularly memorable' are some of the most nostalgic and memorable games to the people here. I would take Ocarina of Time, Star Fox 64 and Rogue Squadron any day over Wind Waker, any of the GC Star Fox titles and Rebel Strike. In the end, I got a lot more kick out of the 64 than I did with the cube. I'm not trying to say that you SHOULD have, I'm trying to get it across that it is perfectly possible for people to have had a better time on the N64's 'inferior hardware' than on the cube.
Fair enough viewpoint. I don't think people should accept my opinion as fact. I'm not judging the N64 against today's standards, I'm judging them by the standards set by the NES and SNES. In this respect, the Gamecube is much closer than the N64. Yet too many people seem to think that the era of the N64 was a gaming moment of greatness, and that simply isn't true, considering the problems the N64 had. The problems with the cartridge format, limited sizes for games, poor audio quality, poor third party support and a serious lack of quality of third party games, a limited library of 3D platformers and FPS, specific genre design of the controller and the expansion pack were all more or less solved with the Gamecube. The Gamecube offers a better gaming experience for its time than the N64 did for its time. If you enjoyed the N64 more, that's your business.
If someone who had enjoyed Atari's Jaguar system more than the current generation, you would simply write that person off as having substantially less gaming experience than you, or poor knowledge and exposure to console games. Don't be hypocritical. Good for the N64, that alot of people were able to enjoy it, but that doesn't change the fact that it was Nintendo's lowest point ever.
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