I wasn't going to have a heart attack :| If anything, the links Jager sent me would have given me a good night (but not of sleep).Aidan129
Listen Aidan, I won't go into the biological detail but the products in those links are not recommended if your heart is healthy, because they make it go BOUM BOUM too much if you do, and you won't feel well at all. Â Those aren't toys, they are medication.Â
[QUOTE="Aidan129"]I wasn't going to have a heart attack :| If anything, the links Jager sent me would have given me a good night (but not of sleep).Courtney817
[QUOTE="barren167"]Technically, you just said they were bad, not why they were bad. You never bothered to say why me deciding to leave if they drove my friend out was a bad thing, you just said it was something only immature people lacking in intelligence did and left it at that.Sentinus333
Common sense should tell you why it's bad. But because that appears to be alien to you, you'll see that I weave why it's bad into my posts. The points include that they make people feel like crap, and how you're forcing people to make a decision where neither choice is desirable. NO-ONE WINS EXCEPT YOU. I don't hear you disagreeing that it's something immature people do. And you did it. What does that tell you, exactly? First off, it's supposed to make them feel that way. They drove someone out of the union. You think I'm going to try to make them feel good about it or some such nonsense? Second, one of the choices would be desirable, that of letting the one guy back into the union. It's sensible, as they did realize relatively soon after, with or without my demonstration. And finally, I didn't bother to disagree with it because I knew, as you've demonstrated since then, that you wouldn't care anyway and would continue to state my immaturity, as if saying that the other person isn't as mature as you is going to cause them to agree that you're right. Here's a hint: It won't.
[QUOTE="Sentinus333"][QUOTE="barren167"]Technically, you just said they were bad, not why they were bad. You never bothered to say why me deciding to leave if they drove my friend out was a bad thing, you just said it was something only immature people lacking in intelligence did and left it at that.barren167
Common sense should tell you why it's bad. But because that appears to be alien to you, you'll see that I weave why it's bad into my posts. The points include that they make people feel like crap, and how you're forcing people to make a decision where neither choice is desirable. NO-ONE WINS EXCEPT YOU. I don't hear you disagreeing that it's something immature people do. And you did it. What does that tell you, exactly? First off, it's supposed to make them feel that way. They drove someone out of the union. You think I'm going to try to make them feel good about it or some such nonsense? Second, one of the choices would be desirable, that of letting the one guy back into the union. It's sensible, as they did realize relatively soon after, with or without my demonstration. And finally, I didn't bother to disagree with it because I knew, as you've demonstrated since then, that you wouldn't care anyway and would continue to state my immaturity, as if saying that the other person isn't as mature as you is going to cause them to agree that you're right. Here's a hint: It won't. Point being; you were a jerk to them for no reason other than you wanted to be a jerk for no reason. You said another person did a better job of it before you even posted. I'm not saying "You should make them feel good". You've purposely misinterpreted me again, it starting to get tiring when you don't want to properly interpret my words. No, it would not be desirable unless he stopped using alternate accounts, but you didn't go into those specifics in your ultimatum, did you? You said "Bring back the guy that was annoying you all to the point you couldn't take it or else I'm leaving and making you all feel bad for making me leave". That was, due to lack of a better definition, a dick move. It was something I'd expect from a 12 year old, NOT someone who's on their way to college, like you claim to be. Which reminds me, you're still yet to tarnish my reputation in any way, shape or form. My original claim was that you were an immature jerk with an ego. You've done nothing so far but prove that to me and everyone else here. I'm not you, man. I don't claim to not care about something then try to defend my opinion against it. The only time I said I didn't care about something you said is when I really didn't, and that is when you were showboating and essentially telling everyone what a boss you are because you can upset people and then take the insults they throw at you. Original point: What you did was bad, you knew it was bad and did it anyways, you're an immature jerk and you're an egomaniac who doesn't feel like he should improve in any way. So far, you've done nothing but prove all of my points correct.
And so far, you've done nothing but continue to state, over and over, that what you say is right because you say so, that I'm wrong because you say so, and that my arguments are bad because you say so, never mind that you have yet to get an argument I stated right in the first place (a point I've neglected to bring up solely because you got to it first, and could accuse me of stealing it and whatnot). First off, your reputation is not one I'd affect, because it's not the reputation of the person him/herself that'd be affected, it'd be the status of being one prone to argue. Namely, there are certain users in this union that are known for being argumentative, myself being foremost amongst those (don't you dare say I'm bragging again). There are certain users known for being able to argue without necessarily caring to do so at all times, most notably DrAwesome. And there are those who don't argue at all and often inject themselves into an argument to tell it to end, which is most everyone else. The reputation issue comes down to that last group, if they were to start arguing with me, or anyone else (like I said, I'm just the most notable in this department), then they end up being the one yelled at to shut up because other people (which would normally be them) decide they can't stand a disagreement, and a reputation for arguing is built up really easily around here. Namely, if you're known for doing it, it becomes nearly impossible to be the one to say "all right, quit arguing" without people yelling at you because you're usually the argumentative one. I know, I've tried it a few times and gotten said result. That's the reputation I was speaking of, not general reputation as a whole, which I in no way claim I'm capable of shaming (usually, it's always possible at some point). Second, what I did wasn't bad, says I That all comes down to you saying it was bad and claiming I agree with you when, obviously (as I've stated it several times) I don't, and your continued statement that I believe as you do speaks of ignorance more than anything else. I say it was right, I continue to say it was right, and I hold no doubt that what I did was anything but the correct action, given the available circumstances and any other means of power I hold (which are none since I resigned my officer position last year). Third, I've proven nothing you've said correct outside of anything you choose to delude yourself into believing I've proven right. Every point you've made against me has been nothing more than saying "Look at me, I got a point" by deliberately changing anything I care to say to fit your own, flawed, point of view. And finally, I've never showboated anything at all, every claim I've made about myself can generally be taken as negative (see my claim about being most argumentative in the union), except for the part about ignoring your middle school insults, which you continue to bring up more because you think it matters than because it actually does. Saying I don't care about your insults isn't bragging, it's closer to maturity were it not brought up in the first place. Any questions? If so, please feel free to ask so I can refute them again in different words in hopes that, someday, you'll give up, due to me highly doubting you're actually going to believe anything I say.
The evidence has been there from the start, from the moment you posted that first post. You refuse to acknowledge it. You refuse to acknowledge you can change in any way, because becoming a better person in general is just too much work for you. And what are your arguments, exactly? I've seen nothing solid from you from the very beginning. It's been "He's my friend so I defended him", then it was "Him being my friend has nothing to do with it", then it was "He's my friend and they drove him off so I felt it neccessary to needlessly be a jerk". Your 'arguements' have done nothing but shine negative light on you and make you look like you're reduced to simply defending yourself. And you made that completely obvious from the beginning with no possibilities of it being misunderstood, did you? You practically said "I can ruin your reputation because I can totally do that". Then when I presented my deviantART account, you said "Not worth my time ruining the reputation of your DeviantART", which did absolutely nothing except prove you have a bloated ego ("I COULD destroy your reputation, but I don't feeeeel like it"). It wasn't until now that you put it in that context. Now I understand what you mean. I don't fully agree with it, and I think people react that way to you due to your general unpleasantness rather than your tendancies to argue. Uh. Yes, it WAS bad. You did it with intentions of hurting others in a way that benefits YOU and the person you're defending. You said "I know it upset people and I don't care" or something along those lines at one point. Are you going to say that hurting people isn't bad? Because if you do think that, then you're more of a jerk than you and I realize. Yes, they might have hurt your friend's feelings after he drove them to breaking point. You could have responded maturely and with understanding. You didn't. There were countless better ways, including not saying anything and seeing how it unfolds, or simply explaining to the guy that they were only mad about the fact he posts on an alt and nothing else, and that one of him is enough. You didn't do that. You didn't consider that. You got involved when it wasn't needed. You were a dick about it. And for you to still stand by that you made the right choice after all of that comes into consideration does nothing short of showing how much of a lost cause you are. As long as you see nothing wrong with those kinds of actions, your personality will never improve. On the contrary, you've proven it all correct. Morals and common bloody sense show what you did was wrong. That's one point ticked off. Read above, that's another point ticked off. You're an immature jerk, your original actions and actions after that do a good enough job of showing that. Egomaniac, that was a misinterpretation on my part originally, but I'm still sticking by it. I have my doubts that you're anywhere close to modest. Doesn't feel like he should improve in any way. You said it yourself, "Everything can always be better all the time, so why improve?". You don't see areas of improvement when they're right in front of you. That point is ticked off too. After all that, you have quite the nerve to deny it all and tell me I'm delusional. There's the ego. That point's ticked off too. You essentially said "Hey, check out this guy I offended and how he's insulting me and how I'm not caring" at a time when it had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. You were showing off your "lack of care", despite it having no relevance what-so-ever. That's showboating. The thing is; you say you don't care, and then feel the need to defend yourself. That's caring. If you didn't care, you would shrug it off and the entire thing wouldn't have even gotten to this point at all. But it did. These are the kinds of contradictions you've been showing from the start. It makes your authenticity doubtful at best. One question: Were you born so arrogant or was there some event in your life that triggered it?
*yawn* Now you're just boring me. Arrogance, destroy my reputation, come to Deviantart, I'm not consistent, insult my intelligence and upbringing, etc. If you're going to repeat yourself over and over, at least say something worth saying. I'm off to bed, I hope to come back here tomorrow to an intelligent argument that's not a rehash of every post you've made before. If not, this argument's over by my book.
[QUOTE="barren167"]*yawn* Now you're just boring me. Arrogance, destroy my reputation, come to Deviantart, I'm not consistent, insult my intelligence and upbringing, etc. If you're going to repeat yourself over and over, at least say something worth saying. I'm off to bed, I hope to come back here tomorrow to an intelligent argument that's not a rehash of every post you've made before. If not, this argument's over by my book. >Implying that he himself has said anything worthwhile this entire time, or has done anything other than showing himself in a negative light. Riiiiight. Right.
This is going to be hard to mount a jury for that, I don't think anyone's objective on that subject, but a fair debate with arguments other than "x is better than y" would be nice to have. :3 Especially about MLP. :D
The Mass Effect 3 demo sucks, you suck for liking it, and the game will be garbage and a further insult to a once awesome series from a once awesome company.Â
I will also take this back only if the game blows me away to the extent that the first one did and is not merely "good".Â
[QUOTE="Dragon66116"]2012 will be a much better year for gaming than 2011. Prove me wrong.DrAwesomeMD
Probably, but Mass Effect 3 won't be one of the reasons why.
Oh God no. Here is what I'm looking forward to this year:
Skylanders: Giants Sly 4 Pokemon Black/White 2 Grand Theft Auto V (possibly) Rayman 3 HD Ratchet & Clank HD Collection (possibly) Sonic 4: Episode 2 Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing 2 Halo 4 Pokemon + Nobunaga's Ambition
This. That's about it for me, I really don't care too much about gaming any more. Racing games I'll still play, RPGs if there's a good story, strategy games if there's actually strategy (and not chance) to them, and not much else. And overall, I don't quite buy games any more.
This is going to be hard to mount a jury for that, I don't think anyone's objective on that subject, but a fair debate with arguments other than "x is better than y" would be nice to have. :3 Especially about MLP. :D
Wetty01
I loathe all parts of the show equally. That's about as objective as you'll get. I declare Aidan right. Case closed. *insert sunglasses smiley here, which I no longer know how to make...*
2012 will be a much better year for gaming than 2011. Prove me wrong.Dragon66116
I won't bother, neither of them really impressed me as much as, well... I don't think I have a favorite year for gaming, actually. If I did, it's probably be 2008, for Chrono Trigger DS and Advance Wars: Days of Ruin. Yeah, that's it.
Censor bypass is still an issue, using one of the four banned words (f***, s***, st*le, or cla*sic) is still a punishable offense, depending on the mod that you're reported to.
Censor bypass is still an issue, using one of the four banned words (f***, s***, st*le, or cla*sic) is still a punishable offense, depending on the mod that you're reported to.barren167
i've seen people use it on OT and SW and even directly insult each other with them
Censor bypass is still an issue, using one of the four banned words (f***, s***, st*le, or cla*sic) is still a punishable offense, depending on the mod that you're reported to.barren167
[QUOTE="barren167"]Censor bypass is still an issue, using one of the four banned words (f***, s***, st*le, or cla*sic) is still a punishable offense, depending on the mod that you're reported to.Sentinus333
Censor bypass shouldn't be moderated but there are some unusual cases where users get moderated and they go to ask the mods. According to the ToU you should be able to say all of those things without getting in trouble as long as it is not in the normal OT. In SW you can call someone a "piece of sh!t" and you won't get moderated (a lot of times). Best thing to do though is refrain from cussing at others and calling names.
[QUOTE="barren167"]Censor bypass is still an issue, using one of the four banned words (f***, s***, st*le, or cla*sic) is still a punishable offense, depending on the mod that you're reported to.Sentinus333
I'm reporting you for censor bypass. Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but censor bypass now means posting the full word, not merely a portion of it.
[QUOTE="barren167"] Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but censor bypass now means posting the full word, not merely a portion of it. And to add on to that in the old ToU sentinus would probably get moderated for reposting it specifically because he wanted to say that he was reporting you for censor bypass. :lol:
[QUOTE="Sentinus333"][QUOTE="barren167"]Censor bypass is still an issue, using one of the four banned words (f***, s***, st*le, or cla*sic) is still a punishable offense, depending on the mod that you're reported to.barren167
I'm reporting you for censor bypass. Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but censor bypass now means posting the full word, not merely a portion of it. We in New Zeal Land call that 'swearing'.
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