The Crucible (ME3 Ending Poll and YS Discussion) {WARNING MAJOR SPOILERS}

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(ME3 Ending Poll and Your Full Series Story Discussion)

(WARNING MAJOR SPOILERS)

I believe Synthesis is the right choice. I didn't spend all three games trying to get peace between the Quarians and the Geth to have it thrown away along with all the tech in the universe.

No more Reapers, and every race in the Galaxy is related by the new DNA, I hope this will prevent wars based on race prejudice. Somewhat like setting off a device in a KKK meeting that turns all the racists black lol.

I'll tell you my story when I piece it all together :)

You need a certain amount of war assets in order to have more choices at the end.

There is a wiki on IGN that I recommend you look up.

Btw, there is an ending where Shepard lives but you need to have at least 5000 war assets and choose the destroy synthetics ending.

Btw, there is an ending where Shepard lives but you need to have at least 5000 war assets and choose the destroy synthetics ending.

rallydrifter

I'm going after that!

[QUOTE="rallydrifter"]

Btw, there is an ending where Shepard lives but you need to have at least 5000 war assets and choose the destroy synthetics ending.

cheesyjon

I'm going after that!

Cool I want to see that too!

I've read some people think that without Mass Relays space travel will be impossible. The Normandy 1 had Mass Effect Engine; other ships could use this drive. Plus Bioware has already stated there will be another game and to keep our saves. This means that space exploration will continue!

I actually read that you dont have to have 5,000 readiness to have Shepard live, you could actually do it with 4,000 readiness too. IndianaJones414

This is a bit different t that - http://gametipcenter.com/mass-effect-3-endings-list

I ready a lot of that on the strategy guide about the game. There is also a way to get the Geth and Quarian to call a truce. IndianaJones414

Yeah, I managed to get that truce...so happy about that...

Plus Bioware has already stated there will be another game and to keep our saves. This means that space exploration will continue!

Falcon084

What? :o Where did you see this?

[QUOTE="Falcon084"]

Plus Bioware has already stated there will be another game and to keep our saves. This means that space exploration will continue!

cheesyjon

What? :o Where did you see this?

http://au.gamespot.com/unions/MEUniverse/forums/29024008/-the-terminus-systems-mass-effect-4-discussion :D

I've also read news on the Bioware boards about them planning for more!

[QUOTE="cheesyjon"][QUOTE="Falcon084"]

Plus Bioware has already stated there will be another game and to keep our saves. This means that space exploration will continue!

Falcon084

What? :o Where did you see this?

http://au.gamespot.com/unions/MEUniverse/forums/29024008/-the-terminus-systems-mass-effect-4-discussion :D

I've also read news on the Bioware boards about them planning for more!

Wow, I hope there's another one. Maybe if you finally get to the Shepard living ending. But I don't see how you could have a new one if you destroy everybody. If that's your ending, it'll probably like start a new one in Mass Effect 3 cuz Shepard fell in #2 sort of thing. But I dunno. :P

Not sure if you guys have seen this, but there is a huge campaign going on over at the BSN to change the endings.

Its even got a couple gaming sites attention.

Not sure if you guys have seen this, but there is a huge campaign going on over at the BSN to change the endings.

Its even got a couple gaming sites attention.

rallydrifter

BSN thread

Facebook page

Who voted Destruction and why?

Don't forget that that option destroys all technology. I'd hate to win the war only to find I've blown up my toaster :P

Who voted Destruction and why?

Don't forget that that option destroys all technology. I'd hate to win the war only to find I've blown up my toaster :P

Falcon084

Half of the ending I liked, the other half I didn't.

The Illusive man controlling Shepard? Seriously? That made absolutely no sense, maybe I missed something.

Also, Joker trying to outrun the blast made no sense.

I really loved the music choice though, and it remained exciting thanks to the presentation.

Half of the ending I liked, the other half I didn't.

The Illusive man controlling Shepard? Seriously? That made absolutely no sense, maybe I missed something.

Also, Joker trying to outrun the blast made no sense.

I really loved the music choice though, and it remained exciting thanks to the presentation.

bugbag

Joker trying to outrun the blast confused me a bit...

Was he making a relay jump? Where the hell was he going?

And if it wasn't a relay jump, why not just turn?

I was fine with everything up to the point where Shepard collapses on that little platform that took him up to the top of the Crucible...

When it faded to white, I was fine...

When the little boy/ghost/VI/AI/divine being (?) showed up, I was confused...

When he gave Shepard his options I was really confused and trying to figure it out in my mind instead of listening...

When the credits rolled, I was pissed...

WTH?! Readiness Rating in mass effect 3 to 5000 can not be obtained without MP. This means that I can not save Shepard! If my life wasn't so busy (and costly) now I'd but the massively expensive modem.

BTW Majinstrings there s Reaper tech on the Normandy, such as the IFF the Synthesis would destroy the Normandy. Destruction would destroy every ship.

I did a completionist run and only got about 3300 ems.  I did miss about 3 minor side mission though because the timer ran out to do them but even if I did do them I woud have maybe 3500. 

I really want to know if its possible to get to 5000 without MP.

I chose the Destroy ending because regardless of uniting the Geth and Quarians and Legion's sacrifice, I refused to have the reapers possibly rebel again and come back only to repeat the cycle.

To me the only true ending was the destroy ending, which I guess is the Red Ending (People seem really confused about what ending is what; the most common association I've seen is the relays exploding, but if that is so, many other people are posting the stinger scene as the "blue ending, so it's confusing) since Shepard has a chance to live.

I just felt like I couldn't kill off my character only for the reapers to continue to live and justify their paradoxical thinking. So I figured, hell, if I'm gonna die I'm gonna die taking down the Reapers which was the mission since the beginning of the end of the first game.

WTH?! Readiness Rating in mass effect 3 to 5000 can not be obtained without MP. This means that I can not save Shepard! If my life wasn't so busy (and costly) now I'd but the massively expensive modem.

BTW Majinstrings there s Reaper tech on the Normandy, such as the IFF the Synthesis would destroy the Normandy. Destruction would destroy every ship.

Falcon084

Ah, of course...I forgot about the Normandy's Reaper tech...

And it sucks that you can't get 5000 Readiness Rating without MP...I finished the story before playing MP and I had less than 4000 Readiness...I tried doing everything I could to get all the War Assets I could and still only had 3000-something...

I can't believe Bioware would make the game so you had to play MP to get the maximum Readiness Rating...unless they plan on making it possible with future DLC...which still sucks for people who can't take their game online :(

I chose the Destroy ending because regardless of uniting the Geth and Quarians and Legion's sacrifice, I refused to have the reapers possibly rebel again and come back only to repeat the cycle.

To me the only true ending was the destroy ending, which I guess is the Red Ending (People seem really confused about what ending is what; the most common association I've seen is the relays exploding, but if that is so, many other people are posting the stinger scene as the "blue ending, so it's confusing) since Shepard has a chance to live.

I just felt like I couldn't kill off my character only for the reapers to continue to live and justify their paradoxical thinking. So I figured, hell, if I'm gonna die I'm gonna die taking down the Reapers which was the mission since the beginning of the end of the first game.

TJsimulation

I picked the destroy ending kind of on accident in my first playthrough...then I realized it destroys the Geth and I was like: "But I got the truce between Quarians and Geth! What about the Geth helping boost Quarian immune systems!? Crap!"

Wasn't really listening to the boy when he was explaining the options so I don't know what the downside to controlling the Reapers is...

But when the little boy-ghost-thing said something like: "I control the Reapers." I was thinking "Oh...you control the Reapers? Then SHUT 'EM DOWN YOU LITTLE S***!!!"

...Where's that ending? :P

The boys argument for not just destroying the reapers is that if he did that then the cycle of " chaos " would continue.

Thing that annoys me about that is the fact that during this cycle, Shepard proved that synthetic can make peace with organics when it comes to the Geth and EDI.

Bioware just needs to come clean with this ending already.

The boys argument for not just destroying the reapers is that if he did that then the cycle of " chaos " would continue.

Thing that annoys me about that is the fact that during this cycle, Shepard proved that synthetic can make peace with organics when it comes to the Geth and EDI.

Bioware just needs to come clean with this ending already.

rallydrifter

The boys argument for not just destroying the reapers is that if he did that then the cycle of " chaos " would continue.

Thing that annoys me about that is the fact that during this cycle, Shepard proved that synthetic can make peace with organics when it comes to the Geth and EDI.

Bioware just needs to come clean with this ending already.

rallydrifter

Oh...well then I guess the Control Ending gets my vote...

[QUOTE="TJsimulation"]

I chose the Destroy ending because regardless of uniting the Geth and Quarians and Legion's sacrifice, I refused to have the reapers possibly rebel again and come back only to repeat the cycle.

To me the only true ending was the destroy ending, which I guess is the Red Ending (People seem really confused about what ending is what; the most common association I've seen is the relays exploding, but if that is so, many other people are posting the stinger scene as the "blue ending, so it's confusing) since Shepard has a chance to live.

I just felt like I couldn't kill off my character only for the reapers to continue to live and justify their paradoxical thinking. So I figured, hell, if I'm gonna die I'm gonna die taking down the Reapers which was the mission since the beginning of the end of the first game.

majinstrings

I picked the destroy ending kind of on accident in my first playthrough...then I realized it destroys the Geth and I was like: "But I got the truce between Quarians and Geth! What about the Geth helping boost Quarian immune systems!? Crap!"

Wasn't really listening to the boy when he was explaining the options so I don't know what the downside to controlling the Reapers is...

But when the little boy-ghost-thing said something like: "I control the Reapers." I was thinking "Oh...you control the Reapers? Then SHUT 'EM DOWN YOU LITTLE S***!!!"

...Where's that ending? :P

Guys, guys, I know many of you have been upset by the endings of Mass Effect 3, but if you guys realize, what makes you guys think these are are the real endings to Mass Effect 3, I think Bioware did this on purpose for the sake of more DLC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSnituXXEGA&feature=related

Look at this video, because it does seem to make a lot of sense and gave me something to really think about. So guys calm down, about the "endings" of Mass Effect 3.

[QUOTE="Falcon084"]

WTH?! Readiness Rating in mass effect 3 to 5000 can not be obtained without MP. This means that I can not save Shepard! If my life wasn't so busy (and costly) now I'd but the massively expensive modem.

BTW Majinstrings there s Reaper tech on the Normandy, such as the IFF the Synthesis would destroy the Normandy. Destruction would destroy every ship.

majinstrings

Ah, of course...I forgot about the Normandy's Reaper tech...

And it sucks that you can't get 5000 Readiness Rating without MP...I finished the story before playing MP and I had less than 4000 Readiness...I tried doing everything I could to get all the War Assets I could and still only had 3000-something...

I can't believe Bioware would make the game so you had to play MP to get the maximum Readiness Rating...unless they plan on making it possible with future DLC...which still sucks for people who can't take their game online :(

3600 is as high as I could get it. I just have to hope they release the whole collection one day.

You're probably right about DLC.

After playing all the ME game, ranking this last episode up til the end as one of the best game I have ever played... the ending just makes me sad... so unfulfilling... almost with a sour taste in my mouth

I have played all DLCs but after this I totally lack the urge to take Shepard's story any further...

so.... which ending? I could't care less cuz they are pretty much the same and no matter what choices I have made after 200hrs makes any different.  

,,,meaning..

Guys, guys, I know many of you have been upset by the endings of Mass Effect 3, but if you guys realize, what makes you guys think these are are the real endings to Mass Effect 3, I think Bioware did this on purpose for the sake of more DLC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSnituXXEGA&feature=related

Look at this video, because it does seem to make a lot of sense and gave me something to really think about. So guys calm down, about the "endings" of Mass Effect 3.

IndianaJones414

I have no urge at all to buy more DLC... feels meaningless.. 

After playing all the ME game, ranking this last episode up til the end as one of the best game I have ever played... the ending just makes me sad... so unfulfilling... almost with a sour taste in my mouth

I have played all DLCs but after this I totally lack the urge to take Shepard's story any further...

so.... which ending? I could't care less cuz they are pretty much the same and no matter what choices I have made after 200hrs makes any different.

bjorta

Same here...

While playing the story I was thinking"I can't wait to start my next playthrough"

It was my favorite Mass Effect game...until I reached the end...

When I was doing the last mission I was thinking "I'm going to start my next playthrough as soon as I wake up tomorrow."

But once the end credits rolled, I was so disappointed...it's been a week and I still haven't really started a 2nd playthrough...

With Mass Effect 2, I was starting a new playthrough about every 3 days...with ME3, I'm just not as inspired to go through all that again...

Very unfortunate...

That ending was just... ugh... it was very nice and all but in terms of an actual conclusion, hell no. I refuse to believe this is the real ending.

The main reason of course is that it makes everything in the trilogy completely irrelevant seeing as the Reapers are the good guys. Why the hell didn't the Reapers just be all friendly about it and explain the situation to the galaxy? Why wouldn't organics want to ascend to a higher plane of existance? The galaxy already has an example of synthetics rebelling against organics, so if the Reapers explain nicely, why wouldn't organics understand? It makes no sense.

As a part of that, none of our choices matter. Why give us all these things to decide upon when they make next to no difference in the end? Who cares about all this "Take Earth Back" bull when we dont even get to see Earth after it's all over? Would seeing Earth and all other places even make a difference seeing as the relays are destroyed? Why throw us back to square one after so much advancement? No sense...

Also, why is it that we spend so much time trying to figure out Mass Effect technology and we never get an answer? The only real thing that we can gather from ME3, is that from sheer, inexplicable derpiness, the Reapers somehow left an immense flaw, vulnerability, weakness in Mass Effect tech that they had a whopping 37+ million years to analyse and fix. The Reapers are far more intelligent than any being ever born, so how is it that this weakness gets so easily exploited?

Anyway, enough on how it wouldn't make sense if it really is the real ending. How about why it definitely isn't the real ending?

There are actually two instances where it can be said that Shepard gets knocked out and that everything afterwards is just the imagination. One is when Shepard gets a good ol' dose of Harbinger's lasers, and the other is when Shepard finishes dealing with the Illusive Man, who as a matter of fact messes with his mind.

Why is it all a dream afterwards, well...

The child is present is Shepard's nightmares after Shepard sees him die on Earth. Why would the Citadel take the child's form if it doesn't wish to intimidate or scare Shepard? In reality, Shepard would obviously be more curious to find out what the Citadel really looks like instead of looking at things from a nightmare.

Secondly, why would the Citadel even want to take Shepard to make the choice, considering that it knows what the problem is, and is more than capable of dealing with it. Why the hell would it want to assist Shepard in the choice at all? Further construction of the Crucible in later cycles can simply be prevented by doing more thorough scans for data archives left behind by previous harvests. 

Also, after seeing the Shepard Lives ending, it's clear that he's buried in cement rubble. The Citadel has no cement structures and it wouldn't be possible for Shepard to survive re-entry considering that the Citadel breaks apart and he's missing half his suit. The lack of Reaper guards inside the Citadel also adds on to show that it is most likely that Shepard blacked out after getting hit by Harbinger and started dreaming. 

Anyway, sorry if some bits dont make sense, I'll probably come up with slightly better stuff to say tomorrow :P

Let's hope BioWare is serious about that real ending DLC, and that it really is real

/Rant

I still love this game and Bioware, but to me its obvious that Bioware did something wrong to have been able to piss off all of the hardcore ME fans.

They totally should have seen this coming and the fact that they still released this ending I think means that they have had plans all along to do ending dlc.

Ugh...I can't believe Bioware would save the real ending for DLC...but I can totally believe EA would :evil:

Either way, it's bad...either the real end is what we saw on the disc or we have to pay extra for the ending :evil:

...Although, if the 'True Ending' DLC is free, I'll be shocked as hell! Happy but shocked...it would still suck for people who can't take their consoles online, though...

That ending was just... ugh... Let's hope BioWare is serious about that real ending DLC, and that it really is real

/Rant

 

N7v1K0

There are slight differences in the endings. If you look closely in the Synthesis Ending Joker has electronic eyes.

BTW I just watched the ending again and I wondered if the old man was telling the kid the story about Shepard; Does that mean he told him all the swaring, and sex scenes? :P

There are slight differences in the endings. If you look closely in the Synthesis Ending Joker has electronic eyes.

BTW I just watched the ending again and I wondered if the old man was telling the kid the story about Shepard; Does that mean he told him all the swaring, and sex scenes? :P

Falcon084

:lol: I was thinking the same thing after seeing that...

"Jeez, grapms...did you really tell your grandson about what Shepard and Jack did down in the hold!?":lol:

I think we are going to get a true ending, I think Bioware wanted to do to have an excuse to release more DLC for the game. I bet they are going to release a bit of DLC for the true ending of Mass Effect 3 in a month or 2. When theing thinking about that, I think that was a really smart choice on Bioware's part because they do know that we are going to buy that DLC to actually want to see the real ending of Mass Effect 3.

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I've been thinking. I the eapers live in Darkspace and the weapon only destroyed the Reapers in our Gallaxy. Could that mean that there might be some left?

After all not all the Reapers might have attacked some may have been left in Darkspace, and the kid at the end did say history would repeat it's self. Also the are an infinite amount of Galaxies did the cycle happen there too. I could go on but i might confuse myself :P

Anyone else think this is stupid? :P

Complaints With FTC And Better Business Bureau

Not sure if you guys have seen this, but there is a huge campaign going on over at the BSN to change the endings.

Its even got a couple gaming sites attention.

rallydrifter

The ending(s) are pretty bad. I just finished game yesterday, and this sums up my feelings:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/