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Voice Actor Union Pickets Ratchet & Clank Dev, as Strike Continues

[UPDATE] 400+ people picketed at Insomniac Games today.

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[UPDATE] Deadline attended the strike event today at Insomniac's HQ in Burbank, reporting that more than 400 SAG-AFTRA members and supporters showed up for the picket.

"We're staying out as long as it takes until the game producers decide to come back to the bargaining table and be reasonable," actor Phil LaMarr, who is a member of the union's negotiating committee, told the site.

LaMarr, who appeared in Pulp Fiction, is a veteran video game voice actor. Some of his credits include Mortal Kombat X, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, and Injustice 2.

The original story is below.

A video game voice actor strike began on October 21--and it does not appear an end is coming soon. The union that represents some voice actors, SAG-AFTRA, has asked its members to picket Ratchet & Clank developer Insomniac Games this week at its Burbank, California office. The two-hour picket is slated for Thursday, November 17, beginning at 11:30 AM PT.

There have already been pickets at Electronic Arts and Warner Bros. In a statement to media, SAG-AFTRA said these pickets have been "successful." In the case of EA, more than 300 SAG-AFTRA and allied union members attended.

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Following almost two years of unsuccessful negotiations between SAG-AFTA and the video game industry, a strike began on October 21.

The strike also applies to Activision, Take-Two, and Disney Character Voices, among others. SAG-AFTRA has published lists of games that its members should strike and another list of non-struck games. The list of games to strike includes the upcoming Crash Bandicoot remaster and new entries in EA's sports franchise, among many others.

As for the non-struck games, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Destiny, and Dishonored 2 are on the list. Interestingly, something called Call of Duty: Stronghold & Lethal Combat and Warner Bros. games codenamed "Metallica," "Sabbath," and "Kraken" are mentioned. A Guardians of the Galaxy game is also mentioned on the list--it's believed that this is Telltale's unannounced Marvel game.

Bear in mind that many of the names featured on the lists are codenames. Also, without knowing any dates, it's possible these games already came out.

As for the negotiations, SAG-AFTRA says that its package of proposals is "not loaded with any crazy demands." Several prominent voice actors have spoken out in support of the strike, including Roger Craig Smith (Batman, Assassin's Creed), Jennifer Hale (Mass Effect, Guild Wars), and actor Wil Wheaton. According to Deadline, only about 25 percent of video games use union voice actors. This is the first strike in the history of video game performers.

The gaming industry refuses to offer residual payment bonuses and other profit-sharing opportunities, according to the union. Specifically, SAG-AFTRA asked that its performers receive an additional "full-scale payment" for every 500,000 units sold, for a maximum of four secondary payments if a game sells 2 million copies, Deadline reported. Additionally, the union claims that the industry has denied a proposal that would reduce the recording time for "vocally stressful" sessions to two hours to help prevent an actor from damaging their voice. For its part, the industry came back to the bargaining table with an offer for helping to ease the stress of voice recording.

According to the video game publishers, it offered a 9 percent wage hike as part of the negotiations. Additionally, it offered additional compensation of up to $950 per game based on the number of voice acting sessions an actor did on a particular game.

With the wage hike, this package could apparently lead to a 23 percent increase in pay for some actors, the publishers said. As it stands, video game voice actors represented by SAG-AFTRA are paid at least $100/hour, plus benefits, though working hours are not "normal" by the conventional standard.

According to SAG-AFTRA, the union would also like to see the gaming industry loosen up on some of its secrecy rules. As it stands, an actor sometimes does not even know the game he or she is auditioning for, which it argues is not fair.

Overwatch voice actor Crispin Freeman, who voices Winston, spoke to GameSpot recently about the strike and why voice actors matter.

"We negotiated with them for 19 months in good faith," Freeman said. "It's the longest negotiation SAG-AFTRA has ever done. It was the last thing we wanted to do, but they left us with no choice."

Asked what the ideal outcome of the strike would be, Freeman said he wants to see voice actors be ensured safety, respect, "a tiny bit of shared prosperity," and that they and their contributions are treated as something valuable. "Because right now they treat us like we don't matter," he said.

You can read the full interview here; we'll report back with more details on the strike in the days and weeks ahead.

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It must suck to only make $100 an hour. I mean, that only comes out to $208,000 a year. How do these poor people survive?

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@Lacerz: Try over $200 per hour. A 4-hour voice over session is paid at $825 per hour. The industry wants to raise that to $900 per 4 hours. I wish I made that much.

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@Lacerz: they dont work 9-5.

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@Lacerz: lol just dickheads like movie stars and singers that think they are actually important. Any sane person doesn't give a crap and just gets on with their own life and leaves them to their fake lives.

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@Lacerz: Looks like people did not read enough articles. People don't go on strike because they think $100 per hour is little, it's because the total amount of money they received can't let them survive.

It must be fun to pull random numbers out from nowhere... Because the median income as reported is actually 28,000 dollars per year. Try reading dennis romero's two articles. First he insulted the voice actors because he thought they earned in the amount of you believed, then retracted himself by posting a new article on how much the median income actually was after the VAs complained about it. Some of these arguments in this article makes me feel like my IQ dropped a few points.

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@bekyuubi: Median FAMILY (household) income in the U.S. currently ranges from $36,000 - $69,000. Not individual median income. Household income. What the entire family earns. Husband. Wife. Kids living at home working part time jobs. That is the median family income.

If you're making $100 an hour working, plus benefits, you are making much more money per hour than most people in the U.S. If you only work one hour a week Voice Acting, you need to find something else to do to supplement your income, because this is obviously NOT a job that will take care of your needs...but you're only working ONE HOUR A WEEK! And with 168 hours in a week, there's plenty that can be done, even without that one hour. Two hours? Three hours? The income potential grows exponentially!

As noted, working 10 hours a week, or 1/4 off what most people work, puts a Voice Actor earning $100 an hour over the average household median income...$52,000. AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE BENEFITS!

What do you expect me to do? Pay you $52,000 a year because you work 52 hours a year? I call B.S. that they can only work 10 hours a week and make that.

I sure hope your IQ doesn't drop any further...you're obviously border line LD as it is.

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@Lacerz: Looks like my IQ is about to drop further because of people like you. I'm seeing more random numbers pulled out from nowhere. Working "10 hours a week", not sure which article states that number or how you support your own research. I don't profess myself to know anything about the industry, but seeing someone spew ignorant comments doesn't help at all. That's what I mean by IQ dropping because I can safely say 99% of your comment is bullshit.

See what I did there? I just pulled out a random 99% out from nowhere. First a $208000/yr comment to a $52000/yr comment, this is just inane nonsense by people who don't bother to find real tangible facts about the industry. Whether 100$ per hour is overpriced or not doesn't matter, because the most important facts should be about an unbiased report on how a VA experience life in this particular industry. There's no informative comment in the comment section, it's just cancerous "support them" or "don't support them" without knowing any real facts, and either side just makes my IQ points drop a little more.

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@bekyuubi:

Damn you are stupid. No wonder you're so worried about your IQ.

$100 an hour, working the average 40 hour work week, equals $208,000 a year. Quarter that to a mere 10 hours a week and you get $52,000.

Please stay away from sharp objects.

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@Lacerz: Wow. Really. Wow. I just... have no idea what to say. I'm sorry to have given you the benefit of the doubt that you actually took time to research and read the articles, but nope.

Here's a summary of what I know from the articles, with no true knowledge of the real industry, so take with grains of salt.. VAs apply for a particular role in the industry, wait up for several weeks to months to see if they get accepted for the role, only to receive a certain maximum number of hours per project which may be less than ten hours.

So instead of "10 hours a week", you get "10 hours per month". There's no such thing as unlimited hours in this industry where VAs get paid that amount of money, not 208000 or 52000 like you pulled imaginary numbers from nowhere, unless you're on drugs. If you actually bothered to read that article, that's $28,000 according to dennis romero, or if you google how-much-does-a-voice-actor-make----

  • Top 10% of voice actors earn $75,850
  • Top 25% of voice actors earn $44,680
  • Median voice actors pay is $29,020
  • Bottom 25% of voice actors earn $20,000
  • Bottom 10% of voice actors earn $17,450

Incidentally, that 100$ per hr article has a direct contradiction from the webpage I'm looking at.

  • Top 10% of voice actors earn $36.46
  • Top 25% of voice actors earn $21.48
  • Median voice actors pay is $13.95
  • Bottom 25% of voice actors earn $9.62
  • Bottom 10% of voice actors earn $8.39

You see why I'm saying that the comments give me IQ cancer? People don't research and pull magic numbers from your imaginary BS mountains. Or if you don't see why you're absolutely wrong, then I'm going to stop responding because there's no saving stupidity. Woop-dee-doo. *Inserts comment about hoping for a smarter country.*

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@bekyuubi: sounds like a bs article. Those hourly rate stats are just plain wrong/fictional. The deal on the table was $225 an hour plus some additional compensation based at n other factors. This is a part time gig; they need to supplement or go work an office job.

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@bekyuubi:

And voice actors can't supplement their income? No sympathy.

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@Lacerz: And voice actors can't supplement their income? No sympathy.

I know.. how can they afford to go on strike? It's like they don't need money at all.

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@Lacerz: Sure they can supplement their income. But that's not MY point. What I'm criticizing is the commenters' absolute LACK of knowledge how the VA industry actually is in the real market, and how much integrity some websites have on reporting accurate facts. Perhaps it's true that some companies pay $100/hr to top tier voices, but man, I sincerely doubt that EVERY voice actor gets paid that amount.

Yet there are so many people out there that really take that at face value and immediately jump to action by saying "oh my god, these voice actor people are full of fricking greed!". You have to forgive me for rolling my eyes at every misinformed reader out there when the truth is so bloody far away from what they believe in.

If you posted something like what I had and said, yup no sympathies to these VAs even if they earned like 30 k average per year, sure, I won't disagree with your opinions, but what you posted earlier made my IQ points drop.

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@bekyuubi: You do realize that the minimum union voice over rate since 2011 (when the last deal was negotiated contrary to the bs report of the 1990s or 2005) has been $825 for 4 hours. So the worst union voice over actor is making more than $200/hour. Now, which commentator LACKS knowledge about this situation? You are buying the bs the union is shilling hook line and sinker. Bet you voted for Trump too.

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@enewt: Again the people here are missing my point. I don't really care how much these VAs are getting paid per hour, what I care for is the absolute truth on both sides. If you are saying that it's actually more than $200/hour and the articles, sure, thanks for informing me that little tidbit of information.

What I don't like is the fact that people are thinking that the VAs are earning unlimited amount of money and pulling numbers out from nowhere, like the above examples of $208000 and $52000 per year without verifying any facts (stated as $29,000 per year according to google). How do you exactly judge things when you are so completely misinformed about the situation?

Not once have I stated whether I support for the VAs or companies, but people seem to believe that I support the union (lol). Just because I disagree with the amount of BS in the comments doesn't mean I support the strike, and I even think that the $100/hr salary is absolutely bananas, and even more so if there's a $200/hr salary. However, I firmly believe that there's two sides to the issue and I won't want my judgment to be clouded.

PS: It amuses me that you think I like Trump or Clinton as the president.

Edit: I also want to clarify that I don't exactly support the companies on a number of things, just in case you think I'm supporting either side. Things aren't black and white in real life.

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@Lacerz: You do realize they don't work regular hours right? You also realize that there are times they'll be without income for a few months in a row?

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@fallingstickman: They knew what they were signing up for. If they chose a job with those conditions, then they accepted them. It's not on the rest of us to subsidize their lifestyle. If you work freelance and don't get jobs for a while, do you expect to be paid more money to compensate you for the time you're not working?

Salaried people get guaranteed income (at a lower rate) but don't get the time off that freelancers get. Nothing is free. Those salaried people work a lot more hours and have less time to spend with their families and friends. VAs do fewer hours (no more than 4 hours per day) but get a higher rate and end up being paid the same. But they have more time off as a perk.

Either get a side job or change careers entirely. I have to work 5X as many hours to get the same pay as them. And now they want more?

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@fallingstickman: Most have another job as well or have several voice jobs on the boil at any one time. This whole thing is a load of bs. Alot of voice actors are also highly paid movie stars.

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@fallingstickman: 208k a year. I could go years without work if I got paid that just once.... They get paid my entire yearly salary for a single game, so pardon me if I don't feel bad that they go a month without having to go to work..... The union exaggerated everything to try and win the case, but people are seeing through it.

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@fallingstickman: Sounds like they have plenty of time on their hands to get another job. Voice acting is "contract work", not a career.

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@fallingstickman:

Working 10 hours a week over the course of a year would make them $52,000...more than the median FAMILY average in many states where husbands and wives are working a combined 80 or more hours a week just to make less than that.

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@Lacerz: So anyone who makes over the median income of something or other doesn't deserve any more money? Do you even know how a median is calculated? Do you know how one raises the median income?

You didn't do well in math class, did you.

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@Lacerz: What does that have to do with anything? So because someone makes less, someone else shouldn't make more? That's what you're saying? You're living in the US of A, the most capitalistic country in the world and you basically complain about capitalist economy.

Let me put it this way. Say you're in a Union, and your leaders one day say to you - "We feel you are being treated unfairly, you should be paid more and we intend to do something about it, but you need to help us." Of course since you're so appalled by the very notion that if you do that, the wage gap between you and members of some other random profession will increase you will say - "No, because I feel I should not make more money." You won't, because in the end the lion's share of people do want to make more money than they are making.

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@fallingstickman: @franklucito:

I'm not discounting anybody's right to ask for more money. However, using a union to strike for more money after you rejected an offer for a 9-23% raise gets no sympathy from me.

And up to 4 secondary payments for games that sell 2 million or more? You'll see every inconsequential voice actor who has a line in a COD game flood the union's membership rolls (most likely the ultimate purpose for the strike), even though no one buys COD for the single player campaign!

Ultimately, this will hurt the gamer. Corporations pass these additional costs onto the consumer, and usually disproportionately to their costs. Voice actors will make much more than the $52,000 - $208,000 they already are, while the corporations will raise the prices for their games with a little profit added in for good measure (why not, they'll just blame it on the voice actors). The consumer loses.

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@Lacerz: I really doubt voice actors actually getting what the union wants would result in a price hike for games themselves. The actors payment would still be a rather minor cost within a game's budget. Games are expensive already and increasing prices would ultimately result in lower profits for the publishers. And even if it would, well, higher costs can lead to higher prices, but games are a luxury product, so they are for people who can afford them.

Also, a side note, I but Call of Duty games for the campaigns :)

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@fallingstickman:

I buy them for the campaigns too when I buy them. I think my MP K:D ratio is around 1:10, and that's generous.

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@fallingstickman@Lacerz: No. That's not what he's saying. He's saying that Voice Actors are already making substantially more money than two people combined while doing less effort. He's saying they are paid enough as it is for the amount of work they actually put in. In a capitalistic society, people are allowed to go into any profession they want to fulfill their monetary needs. They aren't forced into any particular profession. It's their choice.

On you're second point, any person who is not greedy and actually reasonable, would absolutely question the Union by asking, "Wait, I didn't do anything more than I'm usually asked to do in my job and I'm okay with what I'm getting paid and I personally don't feel like I'm being treated unfairly. So why do I deserve to be paid more?" If you want to be greedy, sure. Get in bed with a Union who more cases than not, are only looking out for their leaders pocketbooks, hence Union dues. If Unions were truly humanitarian, they wouldn't require Union dues. That's the corruption of Unions at the heart.

Do the lion's share of the people want to make more money than they are making? Sure. But you gotta put in the work that's required to justify that increase in income. It's why many Voice Actors take on more roles in the industry by becoming ADR Directors, hence getting paid more for doing more work.

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@franklucito: No argument from me here. However, one thing I will argue is your last paragraph. In capitalism it's not the amount or the difficult of work that determines it's value, it's the market's demand. That's why specialists are paid more.

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@fallingstickman: And you do realize that it was entirely their choice to pick that profession, right? There are plenty of other professions out there to supplement their voice acting career. Not only that, but they don't have to only do games. There's always commercials, TV, movies and probably other avenues to fill those gaps. Again, it's the Voice Actor's choice. They knew what they were getting into well after their first job in the profession.

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@franklucito: So following that logic, if you're a teacher or a waiter you should also not complain about your wage and work conditions, because you chose a low-paid profession. That is nonsense. I take it you'd never ask for a raise, additional resources or more respect for what you do (assuming you actually do something)? I'm sure you'll be content with making the same amount of money for the rest of your life.

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@fallingstickman: Work conditions, sure complain about them especially if it affects safety. Wage? No. I've never asked for a raise in the 20 years I've been working. You know why? Because for one, that would be greedy. And two, if the job hasn't changed since I accepted it when first hired and agreed to the pay rate, why should I actively seek out more pay for doing a job that hasn't changed? If I want more money, I either seek out more responsibility (which would warrant a pay raise), apply for a different position or find a different profession all together that pays what I'm looking to get paid. That's called not having an entitlement attitude. I as a person wouldn't grow if I didn't strive to go after new job experiences. If you want more pay, do more work that warrants the increase. Simple as that. Tit for tat, so to speak. Don't like how much you're getting paid? Guess what, there's plenty of jobs out there other people don't want to do that pay really well.

Teachers are stuck in that gray area. We need teachers, sure. Should they be paid well? I whole heartedly believe that their pay should definitely be based on their performance and attitude towards actually teaching. If you're a terrible teacher and have done little to actually educate, why should you get paid more for that? On the other hand, if you consistently output great results with the students, then absolutely, you should get paid more. If a teacher can not only overcome the obstacles of getting through to kids but also have them actually learn something, they deserve a raise.

But don't you dare compare Voice Acting to Teaching. They are completely different jobs. That's like comparing a surgeon to a janitor. They are apples to oranges when comparing the skill set required for each job.

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@franklucito: That's a noble approach, but one that works against you. Unless you are doing the same thing since the first day you were hired and neither your skill nor experience increased during that time then I guess you could argue that you should be paid the same amount. However, if your efficiency or skill improved during that time you should be paid more, because that means you are not working exactly the same. This is getting off-topic though.

Getting back to the voice actors. I still don't understand what you have against the fact that people, whose work doesn't affect you financially in any way, want to make more money, regardless of their reasoning behind it.

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@fallingstickman: Considering on average they make $50,000 that can easily last them 2 years without work if they didn't live like kings.

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@gamingdevil800: I don't live in the US, so I can't say how much life costs over there, but even to me $50 000 of annual income (and I'm assuming that's before tax and/or social security) wouldn't allow to be "living like a king". Plus, it seems perfectly reasonable to me that people with any kind of professional ambition strive to increase their income.

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@fallingstickman: people with any kind of professional ambition strive to increase their income by taking on more work or responsibility. Not by asking for a raise for doing the same thing they've been doing. That's what ambition is: achieve personal goals through hard work. It doesn't come from doing nothing more than what is expected.

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@franklucito: @Lacerz Regardless of our takes on the matter I'd like to thank you for that civil exchange of opinions. A rarity on a gaming site.

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Let them picket. NOW is finally the time for the industry to eliminate the racket of SAG-AFTRA, and directly hire their own non-union independent contractors.

There are a LOT of people out there who have never signed, who will gladly interview/read for those parts. Just have a multi-publisher contest in a bunch of major cities, like "Who wants to be in Voice Acting (no unions welcome)?", and let people read for a minute each.

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Screw'em! Don't give in to their demands, it's only going to encourage them to do it again and again in the future. I don't mind reading dialog, if it means these entitled idiots don't get their way. I much rather that extra money goes to the real stars, the developers and artists that actually make the games.

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Seems random

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Bout to work on my voice, damn that's good money for like absolutely no effort but clearing your throat....ehhmmm, ehhhmmmm.

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@newagegamersare: I would love this profession, much better than what I do with my mouth now.

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