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Trump Says He's Meeting With "Members Of The Video Game Industry" To Discuss School Safety [Update]

Trump is meeting with unspecified people in the gaming business to "see what can be done" in the wake of the Parkland, Florida shooting.

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Update 2: The ESA has since confirmed it will be in attendance for the meeting. It's among several representatives of the video game industry that will be there for the meeting set up by President Donald Trump. It's set to take place on Thursday, September 8.

Update: The ESA says it has still not been invited to any meeting with Trump. "The ESA and our member companies have not received an invitation to meet with President Trump," the organization told GamesBeat on Thursday evening US time. Original story follows.

President Trump will meet with "members of the video game industry" to discuss what can be done about video games in the wake of the Parkland, Florida shooting in February. After the shooting, Trump hosted a meeting at the White House to discuss school safety, and among the subjects that came up were the level of violence in video games and movies.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Trump will be "meeting with members of the video game industry to see what they can do on that front as well."

In his White House meeting in February, Trump said he has heard from "more and more people" that "the level of violence in video games is really shaping young people's thoughts."

That wasn't the first time he's pointed a finger at violent video games. Following the shooting at Sandy Hook in 2012, he tweeted, "Video game violence and glorification must be stopped--it is creating monsters!" Matt Bevin, the Republican governor of Kentucky, also pointed to video games in the wake of Parkland just recently.

Going back to the recent White House briefing, Sanders said, "This is going to be an ongoing process and something that we don't expect to happen overnight, but something that we expect to continue be engaged in and continue to look for the best ways possible to make sure we're doing everything we can to schools across the country." You can see the video game-related segment in the briefing starting at around 6:30 in the video above.

There is no word yet about who Trump will meet with. Kotaku's Jason Schreier said on Twitter that the ESA and its members have not been invited to a meeting with Trump at this time. The ESA is the organization that puts on E3 every year and lobbies on behalf of the video game industry in Washington D.C. Some of its members include huge, powerful companies such as Activision, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Electronic Arts, among many others.

In 2013, then-vice president Joe Biden met with members of the video game industry executives such as then-EA CEO John Riccitiello to discuss the link between violent video games and gun violence as part of a wider task force into gun control measures. ESA president Michael Gallagher was also at this meeting.

There have been calls from legislators over the years to impose various restrictions on, among things, the sale of violent video games to minors. In a landmark 2011 case, the Supreme Court sided with the gaming industry in the case of Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association, striking down a bill that would have fined retailers for each violent game sold to minors.

We will report back with more details from Trump's video game meeting in the days ahead.

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So guns don't kill people...but video games do?

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@brazzo09: Of course. How would anyone even know how to kill someone with a gun if it wasn't for videogames? It's not like guns were made for that or something.

Of course television has been teaching people how to kill for many decades now but let's just ignore that.

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Such a smart move to make, games are totally responsible for this kinda attack I mean how could someone know how to shoot people or which strategy he must use to kill people without playing Call of Duty or any other violent games, totally make sense

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I've been a gamer since 1979 or 1980. Additionally, I've been a horror movie fan since a couple years earlier.
I also own several firearms including the AR platform. Not once, have I ever threatened anyone or went nuts and shot anyone or up.
That said, I see that a lot of kids now days just don't have a grasp on reality anymore, and games are also a lot more realistic and immersive than when I was a kid.

So many kids are on drugs for everything from ADHD to depression, etc.. These drugs mess with your brains. Part of brainwashing is to used psychotropic drugs and an immersive experience to program your mind to act a specific way. There are also a lot more chemicals in the air, water and food supply that disrupt developing brains and hormones.

Then there are all of the broken homes and/or homes where kids are never held accountable for their actions. When I seriously messed up as a kid, or was disrespectful to my parents, who fed me and put a roof over my head, clothes on my back, and toys in my room, I got an ass whoopin', and I learned from it. Now days, people are afraid to spank/punish their kids for screwing up because the system is against them and they can end up in trouble with the law, and the kids know it, so they lose all respect and do whatever they want.

I believe that the real focus should be on the drugs and chemicals everywhere as well as families/parenting.
Honestly, if they were to raise the age and actually enforce a law where kids can't get violent video games, I would be fine with it.
I'm not sure how enforceable it would be since there are a lot of worthless parents who get whatever their kids tell them to get or will just let them play their copy of a violent game.

Seriously, as immersive as some of these games are, compounded by whatever mental health drugs the kids are on, with this kind of potential for brainwashing/programming, there really is no need for kids to play games where there is an option to just randomly murder people left and right.

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@Zynn:

While there is some truth to your statement. I think the reason video games get the blame now is the same reason role playing games like Dungeons & Dragons did before them. Rock and Roll did before that. It is easier to scapegoat the new past time than to tell the truth.

Simply put there are messed up people out there. Beaten till they lash out. Drugged till they have warped sense of reality. Put down by the system. And some just are bad. What is the excuse? No one knows for certain. Humanity as a whole is rather violent. But just blaming a game when the person is to blame. . . Well I have no snappy rejoinder, it is just irresponsible in my opinion.

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@Zynn: better make sure you have your tinfoil hat.

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@Zynn: There are already video game restrictions. That's what the ESRB ratings are for. There is absolutely no way to enforce more strict video game laws. As you said, parents can just buy the game for their kids. But we all know the administration gets funding by the NRA and this is just one of the talking points used to take the attention away from guns. I own an AK47 and a S&W .45. After all of the violent games that I have played, I have never once felt the urge to go shoot up a building so let's not blame games for that.

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@brazzo09: I'm more blaming the parenting and drugs/chemicals. Regardless, you can't deny that repeated exposure to a stimuli will desensitize a subject to said stimuli, which is exacerbated by mind-altering prescription drugs. The common denominator of all of the mass shootings/stabbings in the past 20 years, is current or recent use of psychotropic drugs. Go look up how much money big pharma puts into politics.

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@Zynn: If you want to argue that drugs and poor mental health play a big role in these mass shootings then I agree to an extent. My argument is let's not put the blame on video games when most gamers aren't going around shooting up schools. Also, I never understand why movies and shows get a pass when they are just as violent as some video games. I would say that movies desensitized us long before video games did.

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@brazzo09: Perhaps it is because people simply watch TV shows and movies, but actually participate in video games. I believe that a normal person, with a good head on his/her shoulders, who isn't mentally unhealthy, and is decently raised to respect life, can watch horror movies and play violent video games without issue. Hell, that describes me. Problem is, not everyone is mentally normal and properly raised. Some people are messed up, very impressionable and under the influence of big pharma.
Anyway, goodnight.

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Well as far as psychology goes, if you're pre-disposed to be a killer due to an anomaly in your brain or a chaotic upbringing. Killing in games can make you want to kill someone. Normal people is NOT negatively affected by violent games, if anything it's an outlet, which is healthy.

Games are not the problem, dirty politicians several governments back until now are to blame. Get rid of the NRA and the guns, problem solved, but x amount of million (if not billions...) of dollars lost.

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@robzie: I'm not sure what country you live in, but in the U.S., we have the right to keep and bear arms to defend ourselves, our loved ones, our property, and our nation, from all enemies, foreign and domestic. This includes any would-be robbers, rapists, murderers, invading armies, and even our own government if they choose to go full tyranny.
They British tried to disarm the colonists in order to control them and it didn't work out well for them. Leaders in other countries (specifically socialist/communist/fascist countries) did succeed in disarming the populace and it ended up with millions of people being massacred by the government.

So, no. Disarming millions of law-abiding citizens, and leaving them defenseless, because of the actions of a few psychos, is not the answer. Also, good luck disarming millions of us, most of who are combat veterans, police, and/or hunters/survivalists. It would take a foreign nation to try, since our military and veterans like myself will never fire on fellow Americans in order to violate their rights. Any foreign army stepping foot on U.S. soil, to disarm Americans, will have a very bad and brief stay.

No, the focus needs to be on mental health, the pharmaceutical industry that is more than happy to get all kinds of psychotropic drugs into children to up their bottom line, and all the companies putting brain development and hormone disrupting chemicals into our food, water, and air. Also put focus on shoddy parenting where the entitled kids get whatever they want and are never held accountable for their actions.


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@Zynn: Couple of points here:

A ) The British never, I repeat NEVER, tried to disarm the colonists. That would be idiotic seeing as how the colonists used guns to hunt for food. No, what the British did was ban the importation of firearms and gunpowder via the Coercive Act of 1774. Big difference.

B) The military is under the umbrella of the federal government and WOULD fire on fellow Americans if ordered to do so. That's exactly why the 2nd amendment exists. If you want to say SOME people in the military would never do that then that's fair, but the military as a whole is controlled by and takes orders from the federal government.

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@brazzo09: It appears you may be referencing Rosemarie Zagarri. She has been disproven. Please read about Lexington and Concord, 1775.

Having been part of the U.S. Army for 10 years, I know full well that the Active duty and Reserve components are under Federal Government control and the National Guard is under state control. I'm telling you that ~95% of the U.S. military would never fire on Americans. I communicate with more active service and veterans now than I did when I was in and that holds true. There is no way that the U.S. would be able to go full tyranny and attack its own citizens. We swore an oath to the Constitution and people of the country, not to any politicians, sitting President, or corporations, and that oath has no expiration date. Not only will almost all of the active duty service members not follow those orders, but there are millions more veterans, who still possess knowledge and training on the use of military arms, equipment, and vehicles, who outnumber the 5% that may be dumb and evil enough to obey orders to kill Americans.

Anyway, nice chat. It's 3AM for me, so I'm going to give my pillow some head.

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Well in during 2017 in norway I think one guy got shot in the leg. That was it, a whole year. Of course mental health problems must be adressed, but then you're just avoiding what must be done, rempve the guns! Ofcourse it won't be easy, but your mentality doesn't exactly help.

No guns available=Way fewer shootings

No guns available = You don't need a gun to protect yourself with because you wont be threatened by one.

No really wonder why the USA has so incredibly much more shootings than scandinavia, surely it's the different in mental health and not the fact that in america you can get a full auto at walmart.

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Lol so wrong. No guns available=criminals will simply build a home made gun or look for one on the black market leaving LAW ABIDING citizens NO way to realistically defend themselves against the actual criminals who commit mass shootings with home made or black market guns.

Also, you are actually wrong. It's actually documented that despite Europe's strict gun laws, it actually sees more people die from mass shootings than the US. One study even found that between 2009 and 2015, Europe's mass shooting casualty per capita was actually about 55% higher than the US. Try studying facts before making baseless claims.

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2016 mass shootings (4 or more)

US: 392 dead, 1,502 injured (population 320 mil)

Europe: 53 dead, 169 injured (population 740 mil)

You are wrong...actually

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@f1r3starter:

Than there's this little study, which I referenced earlier.

https://www.thejacknews.com/law/gun-rights/the-united-states-does-not-have-more-mass-shootings-than-europe/

You were saying? Now, instead of making false claims, you may want to make claims that are actually true.

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@n9302347078:

This is funny. In your link the Netherlands is ranked close to the US. I’m actually from the Netherlands and we had one shooting with 6 deaths in the last 30 or 40 years or so. Put that beside your Sandy Hook, Columbine, San Bernadino or Orlando (to just name a few). So to quote a brave young girl in a recent speech: “we call BS!”

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Call BS all you want. The facts do NOT lie. Netherlands has a TOTAL population of JUST 17 million in an area about the same as Vermont. A PROPER gun crime comparison would be based on a population comparison, which that link does. Also, nice of you to distort the facts and ignore all the other gun incidents the Netherlands has seen over the years like this one,

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/910572/Amsterdam-shooting-Netherlands-gun-attack-Dutch-police-Grote-Wittenburgstraat

Or this one which took place right by a school with children present,

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/netherlands-shooting-live-man-gunned-down-in-residential-road-near-schools-in-zaandam-10307664.html

Yeah, like I said, call BS all you want, but the facts don't lie, and you are apparently TOTALLY IGNORANT of the facts of YOUR OWN country.

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Wow. You may want to stop blatantly lying. NOWHERE even close to 392 died in mass shootings in the US in 2016. Here's an ACTUAL list of ACTUAL mass shootings in the US.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/

And here's another one.

https://www.voanews.com/a/list-of-us-mass-shootings/4255503.html

Using the more liberal definition of mass shooting, 71 died from mass shootings that year. But do keep trying to lie your face off.

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@n9302347078:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdwpwk/mass-shootings-in-the-united-states-and-europe-in-2016

Here you go

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@f1r3starter:

Nice study, but it's flawed. Most of those do NOT even constitute as mass shootings. But do keep trying to distort reality with your BS. Using the same measures Vice uses, I could show Europe actually having far more gun related crime in general than the US, which isn't true because as a whole the US does see more overall gun related crime than Europe, but that's not actually the debate.

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@robzie: Dude, I'm Brazilian and I have to disagree. There's a strict gun policy here, through which civilians aren't allowed to own guns - only police and military forces are. That doesn't stop Brazil from being a country where the death toll by shooting is high, because criminals either get them through illegal gun-running, or finding a discarded one from a cop that's been killed on duty, or even through makeshift guns. Either way they're not afraid of using them to rob the average citizen who doesn't have a gun on him. Sometimes even they just kill on a whim. And that's without going into the firefights between police and drug cartels, often with common people caught in the crossfire (look up "stray bullet incidents in Brazil" if you're so inclined).

I'm not pro-guns BTW. I'm just saying this sort of sh!t can happen regardless of gun control.

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@robzie: That's very naive thinking.
Drugs are against the law, yet people keep finding them.
Pedophilia and child sex slaves are illegal, yet people keep smuggling them.
There are guns that are illegal and it is illegal for felons to have any, yet they keep getting those as well.

Even if the U.S. stopped selling them, criminals will always find a way to get them into the country.
More people die in the U.S. from drunk driving accidents, prescription drugs, heart disease, cancer, etc.. Blaming guns is BS. It isn't about making people safe, it is about controlling the population. Only a disarmed populace can be controlled and ruled over. This is why, the right to keep and bear arms was ingrained into the very foundation of the creation of our country.

The population of Scandinavia.. approximately 26 million people for the 5 countries vs the U.S., with a population of 327 million. Yeah, of course our crime would be higher, especially since our borders are open and we have illegal immigrants, fake refugees/terrorists, and violent gang members coming into the country. Not even a good comparison.

You can not and could never get any full auto weapons at WalMart. You are either lying or very misinformed.
Don't bullshit me, I'm not some dumb kid on a video game site. I'm 45, well-informed, and a military veteran, who knows what the country was founded on, and will die to defend it. Not one of my weapons have ever jumped up and killed anyone on their own. My older teenage daughter also shoots and has an AR 15, and I will teach my younger one in a couple years.

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@Zynn: hey mister gun fanatic. Let’s just take one of your comparisons and fact check them. You said more people die from drunk driving than from guns. That my good sir, is BS.

In 2016 there where around 10,000 deaths by drunk driving in the US. In that year there where more than 33,000 deaths by guns in the US.

The drunk driving deaths are declining and gun fatalities are rising.

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@f1r3starter: you say 33,000 deaths by guns. You are then including a lot of suicides. The majority of gun deaths in the US are due to suicide, which is not really a good number to be throwing out since those people could use any of number of ways to kill themselves. BTW. Out of all deaths in the US, only 1.3% of all deaths are due to guns based of data in 2013. I doubt that number has varied much since then. Also, there are millions of people in the US and only 33,000 people are getting killed by guns? Thats a rather small number of deaths. 614,000 people died to heart disease in 2014. 591,000 to cancer. Gun deaths, even including suicide, are not even in the top 10 of causes of death in the US. We are better off putting money towards cancer research then taking guns away from people.

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@f1r3starter:

Actually, you are wrong. Gun fatalities are actually FALLING in the US despite not having strict gun control laws. Yet some studies actually show a GROWTH in gun related crimes in some parts of Europe despite their strict gun control policies. As I said, try researching actual facts before making baseless claims.

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@n9302347078:

The Centre for Disease Control recorded a rise in gun related deaths of 9% in 2016

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@f1r3starter:

More outright LIES I see. Again, try researching ACTUAL facts instead of making up BS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?utm_term=.73c06aa4980e

The US, on average, has actually seen a net DROP in gun violence year to year. That's actually a DOCUMENTED fact as I just proved here. Keep trying to lie your face off though.

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While he's at it, he should meet with Knife Industry to discuss about the recent stabbing incidents. And Clorox about recent suicides.

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So...

Because people are sick of school attacks Thrump needs to do something. But because he doesn't really want to ban weapons (the real problem) he wants to do something with video games (it will NOT change anything but we will do something), or give teachers weapons (really stupid ideea)

What can i say... I just wander what video games did people have before 1970 (WW1, WW2 etc)

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@dinamo4ever: Why stop There? Let's blame Mario for our country's drug problem. I mean the guy runs around eating suspicious-looking mushrooms and flowers so much that he sees ghosts and talking turtles. Dam you Mario *shakes fist to the sky*

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I think we can all agree no matter which side you fall on that video games aren’t and never have been the problem.

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Once again blame video games. So by that logic people that play games like Leisure Suit Larry are going to be labelled rapists. gg address the real problem.

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Here we go again lol. Ye, sure, blame the videogames instead of facing up to the fact that your widely and easily available guns are a major part of the problem. Or that your news channels are pretty much doing their best to keep the American population constantly nervous and/or afraid.

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I don't mind if they ban the Switch as a result of some kind of meeting.

But apart from that, this is mainly a gun-related issue, and not a game-related issue.

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If they ban my violent video games, I'm coming out, guns blazin.

I need an outlet.

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By "members of the video game industry", he means his brother, you know? His brother works for Zenimax. We can only hope that his brother is a little less evil and greedy than the orange menace himself.

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Sells guns at the supermarket, blame video games for mass shootings...

Politicians are the real trash human beings, sadly they are not the ones being shot at.

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@nadsat-77: Did you forget so soon about the crazy Democrat shooting up the Republican charity baseball game, and put Rep. Scalise in the hospital in critical condition?

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UPDATE: Trump team meets CEOs of Candy Crush and Clash of Clans. "We will know have a more pay to win structure seen similar in phone games. This type of game structure works great, that I can promise you."

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Not that any will waste their time responding to his BS anyways. Games don't cause people to snap and kill others, or start wars or whatever the matter. If this is the case then we all need to start a class action lawsuit for eating utensils causing the obesity epidemic that's sweeping the U.S.

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After just watching WACO, I've come to the conclusion the only way to stop Trump and his supporters are surround them at Mar A Lago and pump them full of tear gas. Maybe then the world can move on and start moving forward again.

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@khanwashere: Hey dimwit, what exactly do you think tear gas does? The world will move on when Trump and his supporters have snot hanging down to their knees?
No wonder video games are being blamed. smh

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@Zynn: lol, you so funny

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@khanwashere: Breaking news, Trump to meet with members of TV industry to talk about anti Trump violence.

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and what will stop the WAR? Is it games fault?

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maybe should crack down on the idiot parents that are buying young teens and kids violent video games. cant try push blame on gaming when there are measures to prevent under age gaming and responsibility of the parents to not allow that shit to happen. the idiots just trying to take pressure off the amount of guns that are available in america.

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