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TGS '07: Kojima speaks

Metal Gear Solid series director gives more details on PS3 stealth actioner, reveals Metal Gear Online starter pack will be included in game.

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It's become a tradition for Konami director Hideo Kojima to hold a stage presentation every year at the Tokyo Game Show. This year was no exception, and GameSpot was there to cover it.

Visitors to Konami's Metal Gear Solid 4 area were given a thick, 50-page booklet that was sure to be a treat for fans of the stealth-action series. Aside from pages of CG artwork, photos from the development scenes, columns, and interview articles, the booklet also gave a little bit more detail on MGS4's storyline.

The latest Metal Gear saga takes place five years after MGS2 (nine years after MGS1, as revealed in previous trailers), but the world has dramatically changed in that short time period. After the Big Shell incident in Manhattan, the US government required all soldiers working for Private Military Companies (PMCs) to be injected by nanomachines called the SOP (Sons Of the Patriots), which control their physical capabilities and emotions. The new technology allowed war zones to be completely controlled by PMCs. As a result, wars expanded, and PMCs grew larger and larger. By the time the game starts, warfare has become a vital part of the world's economy.

Roy Campbell now works for a subsidiary organ under the United Nations and reviews PMCs. According to his research, the total combined PMC military forces have grown to a size equivalent to that of the US Army. What's more, the top five PMCs are all operated by a single mother company named Outer Haven, commanded by Liquid Ocelot.

In order to assassinate his brother, Solid Snake--who has aged into an old, gray-haired man due to defects in his DNA--makes his way into the war zone in the Middle East.

The new trailer shown at TGS hinted that Liquid had kidnapped Doctor Naomi Hunter to hijack the SOP system and to lead an insurrection, although his motives aren't explained yet. It can only be assumed that he's trying to create the Outer Haven that Big Boss attempted to make: a utopia for soldiers, where they can battle forever without interference from forces such as politics.

Director Hideo Kojima appeared on stage at Konami's booth and started off by talking about the new bosses in MGS4. Although they were revealed to the press last month, this is the first time that Kojima directly showed them off to the public himself.

"In the first Metal Gear Solid, we featured a special forces unit that consisted of elite active soldiers," he explained. "In MGS2, we needed an even stronger team, and after a while of thinking, we went with a special forces unit that trains and instructs other special forces units. We decided to give superhuman abilities to those characters, kind of like in American comics. In MGS3, we had to make even stronger characters, so we went with a 'legendary' special forces unit."

"MGS4 was really tough since we had to go beyond legendary soldiers, so we thought that it might be better off if they weren't human. We made [a unit of] monsters, called the Beauty and the Beast," said Kojima, outlining the birth behind the oddly shaped new set of bosses in MGS4.

As GameSpot reported last month, Beauty and the Beast is a unit of four monster-like ladies that are, for an unknown reason, named like the special forces unit in MGS1: Laughing Octopus, Crying Wolf, Raging Raven, and Screaming Mantis.

The team members all look like bionic monsters, but they're actually women. Each has distinct characteristics. Laughing Octopus is constantly laughing as she makes her deadly rounds with bionic tentacles made of the same technology as Solidus Snake's appendages in MGS2. Octopus can also use the same thermoptic camouflage that Old Snake uses throughout the game, so finding her could be prove to be tricky.

Raging Raven is constantly in a state of anger. As her name suggests, she has wings, which are made of the same technology as those of the biomechanic bomber creatures called sliders seen in previous trailers of MGS4. Raven is strong enough alone, but she can also call out the sliders, which makes her an even tougher opponent. Crying Wolf is always crying, and she's the fastest monster in the unit, being able to use all four feet for running.

Finally, Screaming Mantis should be quite an interesting character for series fans. Leaving aside the fact that she's always screaming, she's got extra hands and she carries marionettes that allow her to control soldiers in the war zone. Her two marionettes are modeled after Psycho Mantis from MGS1 and The Sorrow from MGS3, and we expect the reasons to be explained in the game.

According to Kojima, the player's objective against the Beauty and the Beast unit is not to kill them. Much like the "little sisters" in BioShock, the monsters were originally girls with pure hearts, and it's up to the player to rescue them from their misery.

"There's the old fairytale about the beauty and the beast, where the character gets enchanted in the forest and gets turned into a beast," said Kojima. "These girls have been turned into a beast by the forest known as the war zone. It's up to the player as to whether or not they can break the spells on the girls."

For players that can lift their curses, there's a little bonus. As previously reported, Kojima used live actresses to model the Beauty and the Beast unit, and he also took 3D data of their faces. If the player can rescue them, they'll be able to unmask the beauty inside the beast and see what they actually look like.

Kojima confirmed that Raging Raven is modeled after actress Yumi Kikuchi, who's also doing the motion-capture acting and voices for the Japanese release. He kept the rest of the voice actor identities a secret, saying that it'll be up to the player to discover them.

Kojima then went on to give some details on the new characters that were shown in the TGS trailer: Drebin, Sunny, Big Mama, Johnathan, Ed, Johnny, and the Haven Troopers. Drebin is an arms wholesaler who delivers weapons registered to a corresponding solider with matching SOP nanomachines in them. Since he is able to modify these weapons, Drebin will play an important role in the game: delivering various kinds of arms to Snake.

As can be seen in the trailer, Drebin has a hairless pet monkey in shorts named Little Gray. According to Kojima, the motion-capture actor who played Raiden was extremely good at monkey impersonations, so Kojima decided to add one as a sidekick to Drebin, especially given that Drebin seemed a bit plain compared to the other characters in the game.

Kojima and art director Youji Shikawa explained that Drebin was one of the first characters to be written in MGS4's plot, but they had a hard time making him stand out. The developers decided to make him a master of magic tricks, and they hired a real professional magician for Drebin's motion captures. In the Japanese release, Drebin is voiced by Keiji Fujiwara, the same man who did Sigint in MGS3.

Sunny is a 9-year-old genius who is also the daughter of Olga, who died in Metal Gear Solid 2. Kojima joked that this is the first time a little girl is appearing in the series, and that she's been extremely vital to uplifting the spirits of the MGS4 developers because the other characters in the game are all old. In the Japanese release, Sunny will be voiced by Kikuko Inoue (Rosemary in MGS2, The Boss in MGS3).

"Sunny plays a central role in MGS4. Like her name says, she's like the sun, with the other characters in the game revolving around her. She's extremely important," said Kojima.

Another thing that the Metal Gear Solid series hasn't had up until now is an aged woman. Eva from MGS3 returns to the game as a strong lady that's around 80 years old. She's now known under the code name of "Big Mama," and she's fighting against the Patriots.

"She's called Big Mama. Her name might suggest something, but I won't comment anything further on it," said Kojima, who also noted that Big Mama carries a Mauser C96 just like she did back in MGS3. The gun is one of Kojima's favorites.

Kojima also gave some additional details to Meryl Silverburgh's teammates, who remained more or less nameless until now. The soldier with the Mohawk is named Johnathan, and he's mainly in charge of backup support. Johnathan's Mohawk looks like an exclamation mark when he's seen from the back, and as that might suggest, he isn't too fond of anyone catching him from behind. According to Kojima, Johnathan's motion captures were done by the MGS series' military advisor Motosada Mouri himself, so he moves a lot more professionally compared to the other characters in the game.

Meryl's other teammate, Ed, is the team's subleader. His specialties are in communication and sniping. If Johnathan and Ed's names seem familiar to old gamers, it's because Kojima named the two characters after the protagonists in his old adventure game, Policenauts.

Meryl's third team member is Johnny. The name should ring a bell to MGS fans; this is the same soldier who had stomach problems in the restroom, back in the original MGS. Kojima commented that Johnny is the least useful member in Meryl's team, as depicted in the last few seconds of the TGS trailer.

In the TGS trailer, Meryl's team gets assaulted by a group of armored soldiers. Kojima revealed that they're called the Haven troopers, and they're Liquid's special forces units. The Haven troopers wear the same enhanced muscle armor gear that Vamp wears on his legs, which allows them to move beyond normal human capabilities. Kojima also noted that the Haven troopers look a bit busty, hinting strongly that they are female.

Going on to talk about details in the game's system, Kojima introduced three new additions in MGS4: the Threat Ring, which acts like a radar and alert indicator; The Psyche Meter, which replaces the traditional stamina meter from previous MGS games; and the Baseline Map, which looks like the traditional radar map on the top of the screen but with a resizing circle in the middle that visualizes the presence of Snake. When Snake makes a noise or moves around, the circle gets bigger, which means that he's in an easier-to-discover state. If he crouches or lies on the ground, the circle becomes smaller.

Kojima and art director Shinkawa took their time to mention that there's going to be over 70 weapons in MGS4. What's more, players can customize their weapons by adding parts, such as a scope.

At the end of his presentation, Kojima showed off a trailer for Metal Gear Solid Online, and then announced that the game will be included in MGS4.

"We often get asked whether Metal Gear Solid 4 and Metal Gear Solid Online will be sold separately," said Kojima. "Metal Gear Solid Online will be included in Metal Gear Solid 4, in the form of a 'Starter Pack.' Once the service launches, it'll keep on going with additional new stages, new rules, and so on. So in the end, MGSO will outlast MGS4."

Kojima's ended his presentation after inviting the audience to try out the MGS4 demo at Konami's booth.

As Kojima has said in the past, MGS4 is going to be the last adventure for Solid Snake, and most likely the last in the franchise that he'll direct. The thick Metal Gear Solid booklet given to visitors included some comments from Kojima, who seemed adamant as ever about his decisions.

"Solid Snake's story is really going to end in MGS4," explained Kojima in the booklet. "Using cloning [as a plot device] was really cheating. I wouldn't be working on [MGS4] if I thought there was a sequel� I've said it numerous times, but Solid Snake fought against a lot of strong foes back on the MSX, so we should've started from scratch when we worked on the PlayStation. But we released it as a sequel, so we had to bring out even stronger enemies. As a result, we had to create an adversary with the same strength [as Snake] and we decided to go with a clone storyline, but that's where things got difficult."

"One of my ideas [for MGS4's ending] was that, since Snake and Otacon are breaking the law in order to fulfill their justice, I was thinking of having them turn themselves in, and for the sake of justice, they'd get convicted and executed by the law," he explained. "But all of my staff went against the idea, so I decided not to go with that."

But even if Snake doesn't get executed at the end of MGS4, Kojima seems firm that he doesn't want Snake back.

"As long as there's a game called MGS5 and it's a game where you sneak around, it doesn't have to be Solid Snake, right? I'd like that to be created by the younger developers," he said. "To put it another way, Solid Snake is one character that I don't want to entrust to other people."

Shuyo Murata, one of the co-directors of MGS4, agreed in the booklet that Solid Snake just wouldn't be authentic if someone aside from Kojima depicted his continuing story.

"When someone other than director Kojima is writing, they can make scripts that sound like Solid Snake," Murata said. "But they can't write up a Solid Snake that's growing up. Snake in MGS4 really grew up [since MGS2], but only director Kojima can write that kind of material."

Whether a new hero will star in MGS5 remains to be seen, but if there's one thing that fans can be certain of, all the unsolved mysteries in the past three MGS installments will be answered in MGS4. "It's the concluding chapter, so we've even went around our own staff members to ask if they wanted anything answered," explained Kojima in the booklet. "It turns out that there's a lot."

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Now that you mention Master Chief, I have to say that he is really one of the most overrated characters of all time and though I enjoy Halo, the Halo franchise (hype and all) is not enough to even come close to the MGS in any particular aspect.

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Snake > Master Chief ... why ask you... snake has a SOUL ....

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SOLID SNAKE forever a legend, forever Kojima

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some LEGENDS are Meant to Die!! Some Bloodlines Must Come To An End.....

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Kojima is the MAN. In my opinion, MGS3 was the BEST Playstation 2 game ever made. Period. The part where Snake got caught with the Raiden mask. I aint seen a scene in a game that intense since Silent Hill or Resident Evil. Between that, the scenes with Eva, and the graphics.. all I can say is if MGS4 is better than that, Sony better be kissin Kojima's feet...

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That could be a possibility too, is not unlike Kojima to throw in something completely unexpected (Solidus existence and Raiden as the main character, I am looking your way, jajaja)

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for all u guys know the age thing may not be a mistake, there may be a plot twist involved

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Yeah, Sunny should be 6 or 7, not 9. I hope is just a translation error as I wouldn't think Kojima would make such a glaring mistake. If he did, aw well, its not like its gonna kill all the greatness this game seems to be bringing in.

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Hmm... that was a pretty meaty interview.

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MGS4 is a must own to anyone who was a fan of the series including me!!! I'm already sad to hear that Snake's time is finally over ;(

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Man Eva was so Fine on MGS 3, now she returns as a Old Woman!!!. I bet she got something hot in her!!.

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This game is going to be AWESOME.

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Kickass. Must buy.

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the final metal gear made by kojima and starring Snake as a growing character. thats hard to believe, but maybe its better that way. anyway I want to play more Metal Gear games so Im waiting for metal gear portable II. I really want a Portable OPS version of the first and second Metal Gear, it wolud be great fight against big boss with a young snake.

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@Poogmeister you see.. that's JUST WHAT I'M SAYING! *declares shenanigans*

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MGS 5 .... Raiden ??? Sam Fisher :D ??

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@thekidmac/Klaydoggy If Olga was pregnant during MGS2(Tanker) then the baby would have been born (this is only speculation) roughly 9 months after the Tanker, making the baby at least already born 1 year before the evens of the Shell. MGS4 is set 5 years after Shell so it would make Sunny roughly 4- that's even more out!

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@Klaydoggy I think your right......... but its been a long time since I played that game.

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I don't know what I want to play (and finish) more, this or Halo 3!!!??? I wanna see what happens between Vamp and Raiden, best fight ever!

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Snake will be missed....

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I didn't read all the comments, so don't flame me if this has been said already... but.. "The latest Metal Gear saga takes place five years after MGS2" and "Sunny is a 9-year-old genius who is also the daughter of Olga" what???? Didn't Olga have the baby in MGS2?.. which was 7 years earlier? Math: Olga was pregnant in MGS2 (Tanker). 2 Years later, MGS2 (Plant) happens. 5 years later, MGS4..... that's 7 years.

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I hope that the heart of this game will be in the right spot. With all the changes, and Kojima wanting to end it, I'm really starting to get worrying about the direction this is going.

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I like Kojima's style. Its best to end it here. To entrust Solid Snake to other people would run the risk of contaminating his name.

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I'd rather the series end with, Kojima ending it, than anyone else.

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Wow! good gamas have to end!! nice Job master Kojima! PS3 Rules

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man cant wait for this game

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oh no!! eva is 80 years old!! why kojima why!! ;(

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I'm still salty its a PS3 exclusive. I think Kojima is going to realize the extent of the damage the botched PS3 pricing and launch will actually cause.

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Hideo is a genius, can't wait to discover this game!

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This game will rule.

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MGS4 Finish the Fight !

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iX-gamer, "Kojima and his weird names, "Beauty and the Beast", "Big Momma". The bosses in this game all used to be pretty girls or beauties. I mean GAWD!!! What does all that mean? Anyways, I'm still buying........and this is definitely a system seller despite its weird story. Even it's pissing me off a little, I'm still intrigued by this fourth entry in Kojima son's last entry in the MGS series. Though why would he bring back Eva from MGS3 and then code name her "Big Momma". Arrrrrgh! Not to upset any major MGS fans. MGS is still a kick ass franchise and I'm gonna buy it." Um... why does that bother you? It really doesn't make any sense. The name really implies that she has some more involvement with Big Boss... come on Big Boss... Big Momma, but it could just be a little tease.

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I guess this game must be the best of all MGS, I hope so =D

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MAAAAAN ... I'm gonna CRY.

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Almost all Metal Gear great characters died ( THE Boss, Big Boss, Gray Fox, the next generation special forces) .... now it's the time for Solid Snake .... DAMN! I hate metal gear for that!

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MGSO is seriously gona rock! looks awesome

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@redline09 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MGS2: Substance came to Xbox. So why would it matter that MGS3 did NOT come to either Xbox? Soul Calibur 2 came out for Xbox. While Soul Calibur 3 ONLY came to PS2. If we used your logic to apply to the Soul Calibur series, then they won't make Soul Calibur IV for the 360 either, because SC3 wasn't on either Xbox. BUT they ARE making Soul Calibur IV for the 360. That's just how the industry goes. There is no clear cut rule about sequels anymore. Look at Residen Evil series for more proof of this.

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***thers the answer that alot of people are asking MGSO will be on the game CANT WAIT TO PLAY THIS GAME!!! "We often get asked whether Metal Gear Solid 4 and Metal Gear Solid Online will be sold separately," said Kojima. "Metal Gear Solid Online will be included in Metal Gear Solid 4, in the form of a 'Starter Pack.' Once the service launches, it'll keep on going with additional new stages, new rules, and so on. So in the end, MGSO will outlast MGS4."

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Amazing huh?

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as mgs3 didnt come to xbox or the 360.. i believe mgs4 will not come to the 360.

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@V-r0cK: MGS4 would be a nice addition for xbox360 but words from Kojima says that its exclusively for PS3. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Actually, there are MANY times when Konami, and Kojima himself have eluded to a 360 version of the game. First was when Kojima said that creating Metal Gear Solid 4 is technically possible on Xbox 360. << LINK REMOVED >> Next, was at E3 07, when Konami says they don't expect a "substantial impact" from $100 PS3 discount, says game's exclusivity is in question. << LINK REMOVED >> Lastly, at Leipzig, just this past August, a savvy member of the audience quickly asked about the status of an Xbox 360 port of MGS4, a question which producer Ken Imaizumi addressed directly in English. He stated that Konami has no plan for an Xbox 360 version of the game, then paused, and added a sly "for now." << LINK REMOVED >> So, as you can see, there most likely WILL be a 360 version of MGS4, it's only a matter of how long PS3 will have it exclusive. I believe it will follow in the wake of Unreal Tournament 3, and Virtua Fighter 5. Both were to be PS3 EXCLUSIVES, but later became only TIMED exclusives. MGS4 will most likely be the next case of this industry trend.

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I actually read this yesterday and maybe somebody may have already mentioned it, but i'll put my money on the fact that Eva is in fact Snake and Liquid's biological mother (volunteering her uterus) or giving her eggs to be fertilized. Guess we'll find out next March??

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im scared to read thissince kojima wants to just blow the lid on the entire story..

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Hey Do Any Of U Guys Remember Seen a Young Looking Snake Is The First Trailers, He Was Hiding from the soldiers and used that camouflage suit to blend in with that statue? Whats The Deal? Why haven't they mention him again? at the end of the trailer he get pooped by a pigeon.

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Hopefully he'll announce that he's re-developing Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

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I want that book!

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:( Last one, but this is set to be the best.....Kojima, You are one of the greatest game devolpers I have ever seen! Sad to see you leave the MGS front. And Snake too..

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@ ctones2 ..MGS4 would be a nice addition for xbox360 but words from Kojima says that its exclusively for PS3.

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No way am I reading that. I want this game to be a complete suprise. Like Snake Eater was for me.

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