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Spot On: System Wars 2008

GameSpot asks industry illuminati to predict whether the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, or Wii will emerge as the holiday victor, and which will go on to be the ultimate winner in this generation of the console race.

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The latest next-gen console battle is well under way. The Xbox 360 was the first to launch on November 22, 2005, in the US, followed by the PlayStation 3 on November 17, 2006, and the Wii on November 19, 2006. However, in Europe, things were turned a little on their head, with the Xbox 360 launching on December 2, 2005, followed by the Wii on December 8, 2006, and the fashionably late PlayStation 3 on March 23, 2007.

The previous console cycle saw the PlayStation 2 scoring a decisive win. Since it debuted in 2000, the machine has gone on to sell more than 120 million units worldwide and is the best-selling console in history so far. After overtaking Sega's ill-fated Dreamcast, which launched in 1999, it went on to fend off new rivals such as the Nintendo GameCube and the original Xbox, which both went on sale in 2001.

Part of the PS2's success was Sony's scoring of must-have console exclusives on the format--including Gran Turismo 3, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, the Kingdom Hearts series, and Final Fantasy X. Indeed, many people bought the console just to play Grand Theft Auto III and its two successors, Vice City and San Andreas, which all debuted on the PS2 before being eventually ported to the Xbox and PC.

In today's market, though, high-profile exclusives are fewer and farther between. Many developers are choosing to go multiplatform to recoup the rapidly increasing costs of producing games for the so-called "HD Era." These include traditionally PlayStation-focused Japanese publishers such as Capcom and Koei, which both have announced a strategy going forward to make all titles multiplatform.

What does the industry think? Which console has the best lineup of games this Christmas? Which is most likely to entice consumers to part with their readies? Will there be a console to rule them all?

THE PRICE IS RIGHT...AND THE GAMES

The Wii is the cheapest of the three systems at £179 ($250 in the US)--but its scarcity has led to massive markups on eBay. The PS3 and the 360 have both recently had price cuts, with the new 40GB PS3 costing £300 ($400) and the premium 360 costing £250 ($350). If you want top end, you can get the 360 Elite for £300 ($450) or pick up an 80GB PS3 in the US for $499 or a 60GB while they last in the UK at £349.

The Xbox 360, which has been out the longest, has probably the strongest 2007 holiday lineup, a fact that is somewhat to be expected. The library for the 360 is the biggest and currently adds up to well over 300 games. On the exclusive tip, the hugely successful first-person shooter Halo 3 generated more than $170 million in its first day on sale in the US and sold more than 5 million units worldwide by the end of November. The 360 also exclusively has the newly released sci-fi role-playing game Mass Effect, which has sold more than 1 million copies since its late November release, and the flight sim Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation, which boosted 360 sales in Japan.

Following on into 2008 and beyond, exclusives coming up for the 360 include Lionhead's Fable 2, the psychological thriller Alan Wake, the real-time strategy Halo Wars, and Silicon Knights' sci-fi action adventure Too Human, which is due out at the beginning of the year.

The PS3 has the fewest games out at the moment, with around 160 titles currently on the market. Recent games, such as Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, and Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, have made a stir and have been joined by the recently released SingStar, which gives gamers access to the SingStore to buy new tunes. In North America, the just-released Unreal Tournament III will be exclusive to the console until next year (alongside its PC release). However, the console's biggest exclusives are arriving next year, and they include Ubisoft's first-person shooter Haze and the long-awaited swan song of Konami's popular Metal Gear series, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

The Wii has just under 250 titles currently out, including the critically praised bestsellers Super Mario Galaxy, RPG Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, and WarioWare: Smooth Moves. Hot exclusives coming up include Suda 51's weird world of No More Heroes, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams. However, two of the oldest games for the system--Wii Sports and Wii Play--remain among the top titles for the game, since they come bundled with the console and extra controller (respectively).

THE MAKERS SPEAK

Sony has had its fair share of bad publicity, which Sir Howard Stringer has called "unkind," surrounding the PS3. But according to upper management, those teething problems are now behind it. Stringer commented that the PS3 was "making a comeback already" and that production issues had been solved, adding, "We believe PS3, going forward, will be vital to our future and will succeed." The company also touts the PS3's powerful Cell processor as a plus to the system, along with the ability of the console to play Blu-ray movies at a price cheaper than most actual Blu-ray players.

Sony Computer Entertainment New Zealand's head of marketing, Warwick Light, said that in comparison, the Wii was not actually a next-gen system. He said, "Look at the tangible differences between processing power and scope for scalability between the PS3 and the Xbox 360. It is clear that the PS3 is designed to last until the next generation... DVD is current generation. Why would you support current generation?"

Microsoft has argued that Xbox Live and Xbox Live Marketplace are two of the biggest reasons to go with its console instead of one of its rivals. Xbox Live Video Marketplace recently launched in the UK, Ireland, Canada, France, and Germany and is already going strong in the US, where a wide variety of TV shows and movies are available for download.

Last but not least, Nintendo claims that it is not involved in the console war at all, but is merely doing its own thing and going its own way. David Yarnton, Nintendo UK's general manager, said, "We are not fighting our competitors, we are fighting apathy... Instead of trying to improve technology for its own sake, we decided to focus on those who weren't even playing games, who weren't on the radar."

Yarnton thinks that the Wii is "inclusive, not exclusive" and that it will drive sales outside of the usual "teenage boys." However, one thing that may hinder Nintendo's home run this Christmas is that even if everyone wants one, no one can seem to find one on the shelves.

ANALYSE ME

So how are game-industry analysts handicapping the ongoing console war? Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities believes that the PS3 is going to come out ahead in this cycle--eventually. He explains, "I believe that the Blu-ray functionality built into the PS3 has greater value to a wider number of consumers than does Xbox Live or the fun factor of the Wiimote... Had all three launched at the same time and price, I think the PS3 would have been ahead from the beginning."

However, Pachter puts his odds on the Wii winning this holiday season, simply because of the price. He told GameSpot, "Wii will win this Christmas, because of price. Xbox 360 will finish second, and PS3 a not-so-distant third, again because of the price."

Colin Sebastian of Lazard Capital Markets agrees that the Wii is likely to have the merriest Christmas. He said, "For this holiday, the Wii clearly has a lot of momentum." He stated that the console will end up on more lists to Santa because of its cheaper price and strong marketing and because it reaches a broader market than "traditional" consoles like the 360 and PS3. He continued, "Clearly, many consumers are showing that they place a higher value on accessible and straight-forward gameplay and less on high-definition graphics and leading-edge processing power."

However, Sebastian doesn't believe that the race is predictable beyond the immediate future, and he thinks that at this stage any of the three consoles could still end up on top. He said, "It's very early in the cycle, so calling a winner in the console battle may be somewhat premature... Looking ahead to the remaining years of the cycle, we could see a more distinct segmentation of the video game console market. That is, Nintendo selling into a larger market of casual gamers, while Sony and Microsoft battle it out over the traditional core gamers. In terms of market share, I think it's safe to say we will see an even playing field versus the domination of Sony the last time round."

DEVELOPING

All three consoles have their fans and detractors within the industry. The platform that seems to have gathered the most opinions on both sides is Nintendo's Wii, which has been at the front of the firing line due to its runaway success. Electronic Arts was one of the first companies to come out and say that it regretted not supporting the format more heavily from the start.

John Riccitiello, EA CEO, commented, "[This transition has been] harder because of the complexity, and much harder because, unfortunately, we bet a little bit on the wrong horse in focusing so much on the PS3 and Xbox 360, and to a lesser degree on the Wii. And let me assure you that almost all of us in the industry made the same judgment. So after so many transitions of guessing exactly right, we got this one a little bit wrong, and we're dealing with that now with strong investments on the Wii."

Square Enix president and CEO Yoichi Wada has gone on the record about his own opinion of the Wii. He believes the console has changed the gaming environment completely and called consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 "overengineered" and "too complex." He said, "There are too many specs--and you also need a high-definition TV, a broadband connection, and a deep knowledge of gaming. These consoles are mismatched to today's environment. In a year or two years, they will fare better."

However, not everyone has been so kind about Nintendo's little console. Sega's US vice president, Scott Steinberg, said that he was "concerned about the depth of the Wii pool." The Sega executive expressed concerns that developers would run out of ideas and that the console might be just a fad. He said, "How much value can developers and creative folks get out of this wrist motion two years from now, or five years from now, or 10 years from now? The Wii will start to look really dated in a couple of years when developers get more value from the 360 and learn more about the PlayStation 3." However, Steinberg later "clarified" his statement by saying, "I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on Sega and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag."

Possibly the most famous Wii skeptic is Developer 9 founder Chris Hecker, who gave his controversial opinion at this year's Game Developers Conference. He told the stunned audience, "Everyone loves the Wii. 'Oh, God, the Wii, we love the Wii so much...' The Wii is a piece of ****. Nintendo have uncovered the secret to Wii manufacturing. The way you manufacture a Wii is you take two GameCubes and some duct tape." He then continued on his tirade to accuse Nintendo of not caring about games as an art form and praised Sony and Microsoft for taking them seriously.

However, Hecker later issued a statement retracting his comments, saying, "I do not think the Wii is ****." Hmmm...

Gary Chambers, creative director at Introversion, told GameSpot his personal favourite is the Wii, because, "You can say the controller is just a gimmick or whatever, but I think it adds a lot to the console, and games like Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition are just fantastic. I can't imagine playing them on any other system. I'd love to develop a game for the Wii. I think there is incredible potential for some very unique games, even if it hasn't completely been realised by the industry yet."

However, the developer admitted that although he personally liked the Wii, the PS3 was, in his opinion, likely to ultimately win the war. He said, "The PS3 will win this generation, just as the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 did before it. The Wii is doing incredibly well all over the world, and the 360 got off to a great head start, but ultimately I think the vanity of the modern gamer is going to win out and the PS3 is going to be the console providing the best visuals. As soon as the price drops to a range which the average person can afford, I think we'll see PS3 sales skyrocket right past the competition."

David Jaffe, cofounder of Eat Sleep Play and creator of Sony's God of War series, is also cautious on the Wii, believing that although it is currently the console du jour, things could shift in favour of another very fast. He told GameSpot, "It's easy to say today who the winner is, and that would be Nintendo hands down. But you're starting to notice the winds are blowing in other directions these days. Whether these winds will be strong enough to shift the leadership position in the marketplace is hard to say."

Famed game designer American McGee is more secure in his opinion. He casts his vote decisively for the Wii and told GameSpot in an interview, "From the beginning of this most recent (re)cycle, I've had my money on the Wii. In my opinion, Sony and Microsoft didn't do anything truly innovative this last time around--just your standard hardware upgrade. The success they've seen with online downloadable content was, by their own admission, an unexpected fluke. But Nintendo made a distinct statement about what constitutes a games console, game controller, and play experience. In a sense they removed themselves from 'the war' and created their own playfield." As to second place, he thinks that will go to the 360. He said, "This is mostly because I think Microsoft established a strong early lead with sales and content, and Blu-ray will ultimately fail as a standard."

ALL HAVE A PLACE

A fair few people chose to sit on the fence and show love to everyone. Miles Jacobson, managing director of Sports Interactive, told GameSpot, "I think all three machines are really good, and all of them are going to have exclusive titles on them that you'll want to play... I'm very fortunate in that I've got all three consoles at home, and they all get played. The Wii tends to get played when friends who are nongamers come round, the 360 tends to get played by me, and the PS3 tends to get played by my mates who are gamers because they haven't got one yet... The real winner in the console war is the consumer--how cheesy is that? Well, as long as they can afford to get all three, I suppose."

Jonathan Smith, development director at TT Games, has much the same opinion. He told GameSpot, "The 'console war' is over, and the winner is gamers, who now have more choice than ever."

Turbine Games executive producer Jeffrey Steefel agreed, saying, "What's interesting with the consoles right now is that they're so different. In the past, the console wars have been perceived as just nine versions of the same thing. But they really are this time, completely different, and I think each one draws a different crowd... So now you've got stratification of the consoles, which I think is great for the consumer. It's never existed before."

Ed Daly, studio head at Zoe Mode, also prefers a diplomatic approach. He said, "I hope that across different territories and with different audiences, all three can compete healthily, which is good for consumers and good for developers... At Zoe Mode, we've worked with Sony on Sony platforms, and I've never bought into some of the negativity around PS3. With the likes of Home still to come, I feel the ambition and vision of PS3 could exceed a lot of current expectations." But for Nintendo, "The hard question is whether Nintendo's strategy and Wii software sales can continue to succeed over the lifetime of this generation. Personally, I hope it does."

'THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE'

Some developers think that the current system war will end in a stalemate, with no single format being named a clear winner, contrary to previous hardware cycles.

Denis Dyack, president of Silicon Knights, put the idea forward during his talk at this year's Leipzig Games Convention Developers Conference. Dyack explained to the audience that he believed it to be inevitable that there would eventually be a generic "video game machine," much the same way as there currently are DVD players.

Dyack called the process commodification, and he believes "all technology, under any circumstance, becomes commodified." He explained that there was no clear winner in this generation's system war and that this was leading to problems for developers. He said, "Nintendo has come out of the gate much faster than everyone anticipated, but how about longevity? The 360 is doing well in America, but not so well in Japan. The PS3 is off to a really slow start but they have a good brand name, so the truth is, no one knows... And trying to make a game on all three systems is very challenging, and I don't know many, if any, people that are doing that right now."

After his keynote address, several other members of the gaming industry admitted that they, too, would sleep easier at night if there were just the one console to contend with. Electronic Arts' head of international publishing, Gerhard Florin, also advocates a single, open platform and commented, "We want an open, standard platform which is much easier than having five which are not compatible." However, Florin thinks this is a ways off, giving the timeline as up to 15 years.

Katamari Damacy director Keita Takahashi also agrees, and he told GameSpot, "I want to see only one major console being retailed on the market, and everyone actually making games for just one console, and bring the price of that console down from what the three currently cost right now."

JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS

2008 looks set to be a huge year in gaming, with a wider range of choice open to consumers than ever before. Video gaming is no longer a niche industry, and its sales are making a noticeable impact on economies all over the world.

It remains to be seen which console will come out on top, or if different consoles will trump different regions, or whether all three will manage to somehow peacefully coexist. Perhaps, even, as Denis Dyack predicts, one day soon the term "system wars" will be irrelevant as a generic "video game machine" comes to market, and developers will have to worry about developing for only one platform, ensuring that everyone with that platform has access to every game.

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To: _SMYLEY_ , I can take the same information you've used and flip it around and make more sense. Like the hard drive for the PlayStation 3 as of speaking now can go up to 250GB around the same price as the 120GB (XBOX 360). The CPU is also used for the operating system and can install Yellow Dog Linux for basic computer use (hopefully user created mod support soon with the operating system(s)). You just haven't moved out side of Microsoft's products. There's a reason why there aren't much peripherals for the PlayStation 3 and a lot for the XBOX 360, find out why.

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The Wii is going to have more success, at least in the short term, though the fact of the matter is is that it has appealed to the mass market as opposed to solely the games market. The 360 and the PS3 are the continuation of the standard console cycle, just as their predecessors were, but they will never expand beyond their own market. Ultimately though, Nintendo's expansion can only have a good effect on the games culture as we see more people being introduced to the notion of playing games - when they would never have done previously - and further acceptance of gaming as being a worthwhile passtime.

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gamehead you dont know what your talking about. Wii is going to win holiday sales but overall, 360 is the best machine. It ace out a year before PS3 and look what it has xome up with; halo 3, gears of war, mass effect, bioshock... should i go on? the 360s marketplace credits its value more than ps3's blueray value, when are you gonna use blu ray when your gaming and how are you gonna usee the CPU when ps3 hasn't come out with a desent individual game like the 360's hundreds of them? 360 has the best value... I mean gamerpoints, XBL, its next-gen graphics while being released even before ps3, the amazing community, marketplace, the comfortable controller, the reasonably sized harddrive, the 360 is by far the winner of the console wars because Wii is deffinatley going to duie out. They have no games with depth like the 360s GOW or Bioshock, they just keep reusing title like mario and zelda.... But damn that wiimote attracts a market

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Ahh media Convergence well for economic reasons this is the best idea but for innovation it is not. I mean the the 360 has graphics, achievements, xbox live, Great exclusives, The PS3 has the best graphics, blue ray which isn't a huge positive, a few must have exclusives, the wii has its Nintendo franchises, Virtual console, Motion sensitivity and price. The best system would be a $300, high graphics, achievements, voice communication, motion sensitive, backwards compatible, and franchise/exlusive titles system. Thats what they are expecting but I don't see this happening anytime soon. Maybe if they sell hardware upgrade to the wii and improve online support?

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Sony needs to do better with sony online to have some chance.

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OMG....the 360 is not winning this war, thats final...people need to open their eyes. We pretty much saw what the 360 has to offer on a two year spread. The wii's lack of third party titles is the reason it won't win...the wii produces one good game every 3 years or so, the only good titles on the wii are MP3, mario galaxy, and ssbb. Those are all titles we've seen since a long time...nothing really new from them. Sooner or later people are going to realize what power the ps3 has and space to run that power, things are only going to get better for sony and fanboys just hate hearing that...M$ thinks you win wars by dishing out cash and bribing game producers....News flash!!! thats not how it works in this buisiness.

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To: ps2forever, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is actually better graphically then Gears of War on the XBOX 360. Another game that's amazing is Unreal Tournament 3 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue that is realeased Japan. Those both look amazing Unreal Tournament 3 has smooth graphics and frame rates. Textures do pop up here and there but nothing to worry about.

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As much power people think that the ps3 has. i still think the Xbox 360 will come victorius. just to the fact that they have so many games and exclusives and HD content online. I mean i have a hddvd play addon and it's great . but why would people settle for BLU ray and you can download HD content and movies on Xbox live marketplace. Sony , knows that they fail once they launched. and Microsoft will only get better. once agian i think 1. 360 2. wii 3. PS3 so yea. also, Microsoft if very smart to make it's console easy for developers to make games. unlike the ps3 which makes developers want to pull thier hair out evey time. and with games such as Madden that comes out every august and with little time on the ps3. every year it ends up looking better on the xbox 360. and to me it's the reason why ps3 is running poorly on 1080p in certian games and the system for some reason have alot of fram rate issue. i'm not a fan boy but i'm just stating my opinion. now once developers can come up with a great game on the ps3 and have better graphics than GEARS of wars then i'll consider on the ps3 . As of now nope i'm sticking with my xbox 360 and wii.

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Console wars ... in the meantime Nintendo is investing big bucks in hardware development and in a couple of years will surprise all the HiDef SuperEng BlastItAlls with a 4th gen console that will match ease of use (and there the Wii has definitely and edge) and power. What do you think about that, or maybe you think that will all the revenues they're just buying big SUV ? They're Japanese after all ...

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PS3 is the new Gamecube; a couple of great titles, but nothing more.

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Enjoy your consoles before the next console-apocalypse comes and renders your all your fun obsolete. Wii and somehting will more than likely win (whether ps3 or 360). Right now is the time of Microbucks, and in a year or two, once the 360 graphics look dated, ps3 will take over, much like the Sega CD did (for what, like 4 days?) just before the ps1 became the standard in gaming experiences (Woo Lunar). Who will lose in this war? The consumer most definitely. The money we spend on these consoles every fixed interval of time is ridiculus compared to the amount of joy we get from the games. I'm sorry, I'm a gamer, not a hardware engineer with deep g*ddamn pockets always worried about attaining the newest piece of hardware to make my raindrops look more rain-droppy. Console consolidation is the answer, as most of you have stated, to end the consumers braking pocketbooks, and I, for one, would put that idea on a pedestal, call my nearest Nintendo rep. and burn a F***ing bra to see it happen.

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As long as they keep making games... who cares what unit come out on top. Its not like any console will go the sad way of dreamcast, but look at the companies that are manufacturing these consoles. They have actual funds to back up there hardware, Unlike Sega.

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Crappy article.

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360 or wii will win ps3 will finish a distant third

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As I stated last night, a NON-propietary gaming system would fix alot of these issues. If a system could be manufactured by any company, like Panasonic, RCA, Zenith, even little piss-ant companies like Jensen: gamers and developers would win. No one could monopolize it because it's nonpropietary (any one willing to pay for the license could build the hardware,like DVD/CD players). Think about it: nVidia doesn't make their graphics cards, they license the tech out to other companies, like BFG or PNY. Therefore, nVidia makes money without the manufacturing costs. If a console could be stanardized in a similar way, noone could monopolize it, and yet, the platform would be universal. Developers wouldn't have to worry about which demographic to market to, and thus, which system to design a game for. There are periferrals for memory storage and controller options on the shelves as I type this; the generic USB controllers and USB flash drives at electronics and department stores. Just make the inputs for controllers, memory cards or even keyboards USB...4 to 6 ports standard. Keep the discs DVD ROM to keep costs down. The PS2/XBox/GC era graphics are effecient for the mass market, the success of the Wii has proven that. It would be hella cool if Nintendo was the company to start licensing its tech in such a fashion.

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if the PS3 continues to slug about with games, its left behind as nothing more than a fancy Blu-Ray player. 360 NEEDS to avoid anymore slip ups in hardware and continue to excel in online options... maybe some more gamer score competitions. The Wii is simple and convient... which might actually help its lasting value more than many assume. That is if they can actually provide a consistent amount of them. just my predictions :roll:

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Noobs, the wii is out dated, the wii is a fad, the wii is for kids lol if only wii cared, wii are not no longer in a generation where visuals determine the " best " console, You guys may not accept the truth but its already here for you to see that Nintendo DS n Wii are out of control, Personally i dont think the question is who will win, i think we already know that, i think the "REAL" question is ........... Can sony catch MS for second place?

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THERE IS NO WAY WII IS GONNA WIN. 360 or PS3 , may share the crown ( 1 ov them is gonna win ).They are more exclusive than a WII. Sadly we will never know ( for now,......until they post

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360 wins. i think the wii is fun but, it will be out dated soon i believe. now the PS3 may have a Blu- Ray player built in but, we by these consoles to play games not watch movies. Sure its good to have that ability but, watch movies is just going to wear down the consoles hardware. plus the 360 got tons of exclusives while the PS3 has few and there is a Wii shortage. My parents are tryin to get a Wii for my sister but, cant find any.

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Mabye Nintendo might release a wii 2 or something to keep people who complain about graphics complaining.

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It comes down to what first party developers make the most wanted games. Since there are not many exclusives anymore, games that still are (like MGS4) will have a huge impact on the console war. In the End, I believe Sony's gonna take it.

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The 360 wins due to the fact that: PC games blow and there are none PS3's are garbage and no one wants one Wii's are useless.

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wii loses because it will die fast like 360 because of their older technology and wii games are all the same when i play it so i only have 4 games. ps3 i have like 20 some odd 360 only 12 based on it im done buying for 360 probably sell it and ill keep wii for when freinds come over.

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The Wii wins because it's just so different from the other two systesms. The real question is what will people have in their homes and I think everyone will have to get either a PS3 and a Wii or a XBox and a Wii. In the end, PS3 and Wii will win.

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I hope there is one console in the future. but that would mean sony would have to bow down to microsoft...let's be honest the PS3 is powerfull but Microsoft holds the standards of software making in their hands. They are microsoft, they are software. hopefully in the future companies make consoles that all use the same standards but at varying levels of performance...like PCs. this way they would all be able to play the same discs and play together online. if you buy a $200 nintendo console you would get weaker graphics. but if you buy a $500 sony console you get awesome graphics. but they would be the same game because microsoft will have set standards.

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My rank: 1. PC/PS3/X360/Wii 2. DS/PSP 3. Cell Phone

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The Wii and 360 both have an advantage over the PS3 pricewise, but only time will tell.

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Ehh, doesn't matter to me who wins. I have all three systems, so I'll be happy either way. :)

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360 will definitely win. Must haves for 360 include Forza Motorsport 2, Halo 3, & Gears of War. Wii-Zelda: Twilight Princess. PS3-NONE GTA IV is coming out on both 360 and PS3, but people will buy 360 for the game because it cost less. 360 also has the most games and better online play.

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It'll be either the 360 or Wii (sorry PS3 fans). The 360 has Halo and soon to be GTA IV (yes, I know the PS3 will also be getting it, but it's too expensive for anybody to buy it over the 360), which will defiantly drive its sales. The Wii has Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Super Mario Galaxy. Plus it has its controller, which many people enjoy. But between those two, I'm gonna have to say the Wii. The Wii is more family friendly, so families can play together, which is what most parents want for their kids. The 360 just has too many M-rated games for its own good.

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Xbox 360 Will share the Kings Crown with the Wii, and the PS3 will be crying as the court jester!!!

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well. i already have xbox 360 and wii tomorrow. got 2 wait 4 x-mas.

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I LOVE PS3 EXCLUSIVES, They just need to be released a bit more consistently(Sonys fault, developers need better tools)

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To everyone the PS3 is the best system period!

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I am feeling that it could be 360, the quality of games coming is amazing I dont even get time to surf net. Also for good or bad it has been heavily moded and exploited, that could lead to high sales.

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PS3 FOR THE WIN YEAAAAAAH!

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PS3 WILL BE VICTORIOUS :D

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If you read the first part of the article it mentiones how developers need to move crossplatform in order to recoup their losses, and this means that nothing special in terms of gameplay or AI will be added to PS3 games because it will have to work on the 360's cpus. All graphics will be similar, with the quality possibly being better on the 360 at the start and the ps3 second, but in the end if the games are the same, the only thing that will defrentiate the two consoels is their extra freatures. Xbox Live beats out Blue Ray in my opinion. A developer can ship a game on multiple discs if needed, but you cant just make Sony @home service good all of a sudden. Wii will sell and win only because most of the NON gamers getting it are not going to suddenly go "i need a stronger console like ps3 and or 360" no, they will stick to their wii until something more casual comes along. Wii will win for just that reason since the non gamers far outweight the hardcore gamers in quantity. As for 360 and PS3, i'm hoping the 360 stays ahead, and they have some great games and exclusives out already and on the way. A brand name like PS3 will only take you so far. Look at Nintendo, they used to be on top before PS1 came out. I'm thinking Ps3 will be closely in third, or marginally in second, but the wii will still win in the end.

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Everybody keeps sayin that the PS3 is going to be great. It might and then again, it might not. The most powerful systems tend to lose in console wars for a variety of reasons (price, accessibility). My guess is the 360 will win because it strikes the right balance between power and price point. In addition, the head start has given it more top tier games than the other two systems combined. For "insiders" to predict that the PS3 will ultimately prevail strikes me as odd. They are basically saying that this system will stage a tremendous comeback while remaining very vague about exactly how this will be done. I am not saying that it can't win this console race, however I see very little at this point in time to indicate that it will.

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I'm more of a gamer whore. I'll cheer for the system that has the best games at the moment (or NEAR future). To be honest I'm for the 360 for Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed, both highly addictive games. As far as the PS3 goes, I'm waiting for that "Console Launcher" to be shipped for the PS3 before I get it. That being said, WTF does this have to do with MGS4?! This should be in a more generic area since it covers all three consoles, last I checked I don't ever remember hearing "MSG4" and "Wii" in the same sentence. I checked a couple of the games mentioned in this article that were just released or will be future release to see if this article was on their page as well and it seems to only be here. Be honest GameSpot, you only posted this in MGS4 just so you could get more readers because you know we're hungry for more information on MSG4...shame on you.

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WELL THE ps3 DIdnt HAve a GOod STart because Of da GAmez ...but Once Developers learn How 2 use da PS3 and MAKe better GAMes the Ps3 is gonna sell alot ..the ps3 is a POwerFul machine ...Developers r juss being lazy and not puttin any effort in makin games ..

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It is highly unlikely that there would be only one gaming system. Everyone wants a peice of the pie, and making a console = $$$$ for everyone. On top of that, if it were one company, I'm sure that it would constitute a monopoly.

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There's already a generic console, it's called PC ;)

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PS3 is what i like to call an investment console. I dont think it will be #1 this year, however, i do believe it will take its spot as #1 next year or perhaps the year after that once developers begin to advance their understanding of all its fancy bells n whistles. If the PS2 has taught anything, Playstation can outlast its counter-parts in terms of technology.

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yeh the wii is innovative but it aint exactly futureproof. 360 and ps3 have loads of great exclusives lined up for next year but what does the wii have besides super smash bros? and please nobody mention wii fit, that things just embarrassing

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bottom line is, ps3 made a bad move with the "cell" processor. its supposed greater power is completely lost on developers. even john carmack thinks its confusing. JOHN CARMACK. the xbox 360 is a more simple piece of hardware, easier to program for, and less expensive to produce than the ps3's overly confusing mess. 360 or the wii will win in the end. sony has made too many mistakes this time.

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If American McGee likes the Wii, where the hell is the Wii version of Alice? Having a "generic console" would be great for the consumers and developers, but it's a pipe dream. First parties will never go for it.

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i would actually think that now would be a good time to invest in a 360 just because it has been out longer so there would be more games, and its a bit cheaper, PLUS, the quality ISN'T like HORRIBLE compared to the ps3 like some of you say it is. BUT, im pretty sure that the ps3 would surely win in the future. the only reason it seems to be doing not so good right now is because its still to new so there are not so many good games for it and it is relatively pricey. so if you want to get a console now, i would really reccommend a 360, but if you plan on getting one like, for example, late next year, ps3 would probably be a better bet... as for the wii.................i have no comment to make cause i dunno much about it xD

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To: joey0695, The XBOX 360 uses raw memory while the PlayStation 3 uses memory very differently. It's all scattered around but the VRAM is 10MB on the XBOX 360 and 256MB on the PlayStation 3. That is just the raw stuff. So if the PlayStation 3 was like the XBOX 360 (in terms of how RAM works) games like Unreal Tournament 3 maps would be difficult. With the PlayStation 3 when it comes to games it doesn't really have limitations when it comes to RAM (Ramdom Access Memory). That was the soul reason why the PlayStation 3 version of Unreal Tournament 3 was delayed. They found out that they could actually fit the larger maps on the PlayStation 3, it's just done differently.

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