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Spot On: System Wars 2008

GameSpot asks industry illuminati to predict whether the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, or Wii will emerge as the holiday victor, and which will go on to be the ultimate winner in this generation of the console race.

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The latest next-gen console battle is well under way. The Xbox 360 was the first to launch on November 22, 2005, in the US, followed by the PlayStation 3 on November 17, 2006, and the Wii on November 19, 2006. However, in Europe, things were turned a little on their head, with the Xbox 360 launching on December 2, 2005, followed by the Wii on December 8, 2006, and the fashionably late PlayStation 3 on March 23, 2007.

The previous console cycle saw the PlayStation 2 scoring a decisive win. Since it debuted in 2000, the machine has gone on to sell more than 120 million units worldwide and is the best-selling console in history so far. After overtaking Sega's ill-fated Dreamcast, which launched in 1999, it went on to fend off new rivals such as the Nintendo GameCube and the original Xbox, which both went on sale in 2001.

Part of the PS2's success was Sony's scoring of must-have console exclusives on the format--including Gran Turismo 3, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, the Kingdom Hearts series, and Final Fantasy X. Indeed, many people bought the console just to play Grand Theft Auto III and its two successors, Vice City and San Andreas, which all debuted on the PS2 before being eventually ported to the Xbox and PC.

In today's market, though, high-profile exclusives are fewer and farther between. Many developers are choosing to go multiplatform to recoup the rapidly increasing costs of producing games for the so-called "HD Era." These include traditionally PlayStation-focused Japanese publishers such as Capcom and Koei, which both have announced a strategy going forward to make all titles multiplatform.

What does the industry think? Which console has the best lineup of games this Christmas? Which is most likely to entice consumers to part with their readies? Will there be a console to rule them all?

THE PRICE IS RIGHT...AND THE GAMES

The Wii is the cheapest of the three systems at £179 ($250 in the US)--but its scarcity has led to massive markups on eBay. The PS3 and the 360 have both recently had price cuts, with the new 40GB PS3 costing £300 ($400) and the premium 360 costing £250 ($350). If you want top end, you can get the 360 Elite for £300 ($450) or pick up an 80GB PS3 in the US for $499 or a 60GB while they last in the UK at £349.

The Xbox 360, which has been out the longest, has probably the strongest 2007 holiday lineup, a fact that is somewhat to be expected. The library for the 360 is the biggest and currently adds up to well over 300 games. On the exclusive tip, the hugely successful first-person shooter Halo 3 generated more than $170 million in its first day on sale in the US and sold more than 5 million units worldwide by the end of November. The 360 also exclusively has the newly released sci-fi role-playing game Mass Effect, which has sold more than 1 million copies since its late November release, and the flight sim Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation, which boosted 360 sales in Japan.

Following on into 2008 and beyond, exclusives coming up for the 360 include Lionhead's Fable 2, the psychological thriller Alan Wake, the real-time strategy Halo Wars, and Silicon Knights' sci-fi action adventure Too Human, which is due out at the beginning of the year.

The PS3 has the fewest games out at the moment, with around 160 titles currently on the market. Recent games, such as Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, and Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, have made a stir and have been joined by the recently released SingStar, which gives gamers access to the SingStore to buy new tunes. In North America, the just-released Unreal Tournament III will be exclusive to the console until next year (alongside its PC release). However, the console's biggest exclusives are arriving next year, and they include Ubisoft's first-person shooter Haze and the long-awaited swan song of Konami's popular Metal Gear series, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

The Wii has just under 250 titles currently out, including the critically praised bestsellers Super Mario Galaxy, RPG Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, and WarioWare: Smooth Moves. Hot exclusives coming up include Suda 51's weird world of No More Heroes, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams. However, two of the oldest games for the system--Wii Sports and Wii Play--remain among the top titles for the game, since they come bundled with the console and extra controller (respectively).

THE MAKERS SPEAK

Sony has had its fair share of bad publicity, which Sir Howard Stringer has called "unkind," surrounding the PS3. But according to upper management, those teething problems are now behind it. Stringer commented that the PS3 was "making a comeback already" and that production issues had been solved, adding, "We believe PS3, going forward, will be vital to our future and will succeed." The company also touts the PS3's powerful Cell processor as a plus to the system, along with the ability of the console to play Blu-ray movies at a price cheaper than most actual Blu-ray players.

Sony Computer Entertainment New Zealand's head of marketing, Warwick Light, said that in comparison, the Wii was not actually a next-gen system. He said, "Look at the tangible differences between processing power and scope for scalability between the PS3 and the Xbox 360. It is clear that the PS3 is designed to last until the next generation... DVD is current generation. Why would you support current generation?"

Microsoft has argued that Xbox Live and Xbox Live Marketplace are two of the biggest reasons to go with its console instead of one of its rivals. Xbox Live Video Marketplace recently launched in the UK, Ireland, Canada, France, and Germany and is already going strong in the US, where a wide variety of TV shows and movies are available for download.

Last but not least, Nintendo claims that it is not involved in the console war at all, but is merely doing its own thing and going its own way. David Yarnton, Nintendo UK's general manager, said, "We are not fighting our competitors, we are fighting apathy... Instead of trying to improve technology for its own sake, we decided to focus on those who weren't even playing games, who weren't on the radar."

Yarnton thinks that the Wii is "inclusive, not exclusive" and that it will drive sales outside of the usual "teenage boys." However, one thing that may hinder Nintendo's home run this Christmas is that even if everyone wants one, no one can seem to find one on the shelves.

ANALYSE ME

So how are game-industry analysts handicapping the ongoing console war? Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities believes that the PS3 is going to come out ahead in this cycle--eventually. He explains, "I believe that the Blu-ray functionality built into the PS3 has greater value to a wider number of consumers than does Xbox Live or the fun factor of the Wiimote... Had all three launched at the same time and price, I think the PS3 would have been ahead from the beginning."

However, Pachter puts his odds on the Wii winning this holiday season, simply because of the price. He told GameSpot, "Wii will win this Christmas, because of price. Xbox 360 will finish second, and PS3 a not-so-distant third, again because of the price."

Colin Sebastian of Lazard Capital Markets agrees that the Wii is likely to have the merriest Christmas. He said, "For this holiday, the Wii clearly has a lot of momentum." He stated that the console will end up on more lists to Santa because of its cheaper price and strong marketing and because it reaches a broader market than "traditional" consoles like the 360 and PS3. He continued, "Clearly, many consumers are showing that they place a higher value on accessible and straight-forward gameplay and less on high-definition graphics and leading-edge processing power."

However, Sebastian doesn't believe that the race is predictable beyond the immediate future, and he thinks that at this stage any of the three consoles could still end up on top. He said, "It's very early in the cycle, so calling a winner in the console battle may be somewhat premature... Looking ahead to the remaining years of the cycle, we could see a more distinct segmentation of the video game console market. That is, Nintendo selling into a larger market of casual gamers, while Sony and Microsoft battle it out over the traditional core gamers. In terms of market share, I think it's safe to say we will see an even playing field versus the domination of Sony the last time round."

DEVELOPING

All three consoles have their fans and detractors within the industry. The platform that seems to have gathered the most opinions on both sides is Nintendo's Wii, which has been at the front of the firing line due to its runaway success. Electronic Arts was one of the first companies to come out and say that it regretted not supporting the format more heavily from the start.

John Riccitiello, EA CEO, commented, "[This transition has been] harder because of the complexity, and much harder because, unfortunately, we bet a little bit on the wrong horse in focusing so much on the PS3 and Xbox 360, and to a lesser degree on the Wii. And let me assure you that almost all of us in the industry made the same judgment. So after so many transitions of guessing exactly right, we got this one a little bit wrong, and we're dealing with that now with strong investments on the Wii."

Square Enix president and CEO Yoichi Wada has gone on the record about his own opinion of the Wii. He believes the console has changed the gaming environment completely and called consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 "overengineered" and "too complex." He said, "There are too many specs--and you also need a high-definition TV, a broadband connection, and a deep knowledge of gaming. These consoles are mismatched to today's environment. In a year or two years, they will fare better."

However, not everyone has been so kind about Nintendo's little console. Sega's US vice president, Scott Steinberg, said that he was "concerned about the depth of the Wii pool." The Sega executive expressed concerns that developers would run out of ideas and that the console might be just a fad. He said, "How much value can developers and creative folks get out of this wrist motion two years from now, or five years from now, or 10 years from now? The Wii will start to look really dated in a couple of years when developers get more value from the 360 and learn more about the PlayStation 3." However, Steinberg later "clarified" his statement by saying, "I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on Sega and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag."

Possibly the most famous Wii skeptic is Developer 9 founder Chris Hecker, who gave his controversial opinion at this year's Game Developers Conference. He told the stunned audience, "Everyone loves the Wii. 'Oh, God, the Wii, we love the Wii so much...' The Wii is a piece of ****. Nintendo have uncovered the secret to Wii manufacturing. The way you manufacture a Wii is you take two GameCubes and some duct tape." He then continued on his tirade to accuse Nintendo of not caring about games as an art form and praised Sony and Microsoft for taking them seriously.

However, Hecker later issued a statement retracting his comments, saying, "I do not think the Wii is ****." Hmmm...

Gary Chambers, creative director at Introversion, told GameSpot his personal favourite is the Wii, because, "You can say the controller is just a gimmick or whatever, but I think it adds a lot to the console, and games like Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition are just fantastic. I can't imagine playing them on any other system. I'd love to develop a game for the Wii. I think there is incredible potential for some very unique games, even if it hasn't completely been realised by the industry yet."

However, the developer admitted that although he personally liked the Wii, the PS3 was, in his opinion, likely to ultimately win the war. He said, "The PS3 will win this generation, just as the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 did before it. The Wii is doing incredibly well all over the world, and the 360 got off to a great head start, but ultimately I think the vanity of the modern gamer is going to win out and the PS3 is going to be the console providing the best visuals. As soon as the price drops to a range which the average person can afford, I think we'll see PS3 sales skyrocket right past the competition."

David Jaffe, cofounder of Eat Sleep Play and creator of Sony's God of War series, is also cautious on the Wii, believing that although it is currently the console du jour, things could shift in favour of another very fast. He told GameSpot, "It's easy to say today who the winner is, and that would be Nintendo hands down. But you're starting to notice the winds are blowing in other directions these days. Whether these winds will be strong enough to shift the leadership position in the marketplace is hard to say."

Famed game designer American McGee is more secure in his opinion. He casts his vote decisively for the Wii and told GameSpot in an interview, "From the beginning of this most recent (re)cycle, I've had my money on the Wii. In my opinion, Sony and Microsoft didn't do anything truly innovative this last time around--just your standard hardware upgrade. The success they've seen with online downloadable content was, by their own admission, an unexpected fluke. But Nintendo made a distinct statement about what constitutes a games console, game controller, and play experience. In a sense they removed themselves from 'the war' and created their own playfield." As to second place, he thinks that will go to the 360. He said, "This is mostly because I think Microsoft established a strong early lead with sales and content, and Blu-ray will ultimately fail as a standard."

ALL HAVE A PLACE

A fair few people chose to sit on the fence and show love to everyone. Miles Jacobson, managing director of Sports Interactive, told GameSpot, "I think all three machines are really good, and all of them are going to have exclusive titles on them that you'll want to play... I'm very fortunate in that I've got all three consoles at home, and they all get played. The Wii tends to get played when friends who are nongamers come round, the 360 tends to get played by me, and the PS3 tends to get played by my mates who are gamers because they haven't got one yet... The real winner in the console war is the consumer--how cheesy is that? Well, as long as they can afford to get all three, I suppose."

Jonathan Smith, development director at TT Games, has much the same opinion. He told GameSpot, "The 'console war' is over, and the winner is gamers, who now have more choice than ever."

Turbine Games executive producer Jeffrey Steefel agreed, saying, "What's interesting with the consoles right now is that they're so different. In the past, the console wars have been perceived as just nine versions of the same thing. But they really are this time, completely different, and I think each one draws a different crowd... So now you've got stratification of the consoles, which I think is great for the consumer. It's never existed before."

Ed Daly, studio head at Zoe Mode, also prefers a diplomatic approach. He said, "I hope that across different territories and with different audiences, all three can compete healthily, which is good for consumers and good for developers... At Zoe Mode, we've worked with Sony on Sony platforms, and I've never bought into some of the negativity around PS3. With the likes of Home still to come, I feel the ambition and vision of PS3 could exceed a lot of current expectations." But for Nintendo, "The hard question is whether Nintendo's strategy and Wii software sales can continue to succeed over the lifetime of this generation. Personally, I hope it does."

'THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE'

Some developers think that the current system war will end in a stalemate, with no single format being named a clear winner, contrary to previous hardware cycles.

Denis Dyack, president of Silicon Knights, put the idea forward during his talk at this year's Leipzig Games Convention Developers Conference. Dyack explained to the audience that he believed it to be inevitable that there would eventually be a generic "video game machine," much the same way as there currently are DVD players.

Dyack called the process commodification, and he believes "all technology, under any circumstance, becomes commodified." He explained that there was no clear winner in this generation's system war and that this was leading to problems for developers. He said, "Nintendo has come out of the gate much faster than everyone anticipated, but how about longevity? The 360 is doing well in America, but not so well in Japan. The PS3 is off to a really slow start but they have a good brand name, so the truth is, no one knows... And trying to make a game on all three systems is very challenging, and I don't know many, if any, people that are doing that right now."

After his keynote address, several other members of the gaming industry admitted that they, too, would sleep easier at night if there were just the one console to contend with. Electronic Arts' head of international publishing, Gerhard Florin, also advocates a single, open platform and commented, "We want an open, standard platform which is much easier than having five which are not compatible." However, Florin thinks this is a ways off, giving the timeline as up to 15 years.

Katamari Damacy director Keita Takahashi also agrees, and he told GameSpot, "I want to see only one major console being retailed on the market, and everyone actually making games for just one console, and bring the price of that console down from what the three currently cost right now."

JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS

2008 looks set to be a huge year in gaming, with a wider range of choice open to consumers than ever before. Video gaming is no longer a niche industry, and its sales are making a noticeable impact on economies all over the world.

It remains to be seen which console will come out on top, or if different consoles will trump different regions, or whether all three will manage to somehow peacefully coexist. Perhaps, even, as Denis Dyack predicts, one day soon the term "system wars" will be irrelevant as a generic "video game machine" comes to market, and developers will have to worry about developing for only one platform, ensuring that everyone with that platform has access to every game.

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I do think that Sony have bet on a horse that won't come in. Just because a technology may be better, it doesn't mean that it will be accepted. Blu-Ray may be better than DVD.... Beta was better than VHS, but who ever had a Beta VCR?

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" Perhaps, even, as Denis Dyack predicts, one day soon the term "system wars" will be irrelevant as a generic "video game machine" comes to market, and developers will have to worry about developing for only one platform, ensuring that everyone with that platform has access to every game. " YES YES YES!!!!

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with the ps3 droping all the time its only a matter of time before people find out the real problem with the ps3 is the lack and loss of exclusive titles....

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This is obviously too much for most people to read, so here is a video rundown of it: << LINK REMOVED >>

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sure ps3 has great potential, but have any developers attempted to tap that potential yet? of course not, because developing for a cell processor sucks and is uber expensive. another hinderince is the 360's growing potential, which didn't seem like much at the beginning, but has been realized greater with games like cod4 and mass effect. in truth the 360 has been on equal if not better footing with the ps3 because no games have exercised the maximum potentials of either systems.

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You can buy either of these,or you can build a PC that can pwn them all, like I did. The only thing I'm missing is a blu-ray player(An extra $300),but who cares? Enough said.

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I believ that eventually all gaming will be done through virtual reality with headsets and gloves but until that day arives we face a choice between xbox and playstation who get proper games and the wii with a controller that does try and put you in the game. When virtual reality eventually arives people will look back and wonder what was the first console to try and realy put you in the game and they will say the wii as the 360 and ps3 stuck to joysticks, buttons and triggers. I am not saying that the 360 and ps3 are bad consoles on the contrary they are both amazing consoles but are they the future....... NO! They both do not venture out of there safe zone which is a male between the age of 13-25 and so consequently each console they bring out ensures the same mix of guns, swords, sorcery and cars. But where the wii misses out with this landmark console is that it is nothing more than a gimmick. Look at an advert for the wii it is often a family or group of teenage girls playing the wii gigling away whilst they use the wii controller to its full advantage in a crappy mini-game or some other game that is also totaly devoid of adreline, challenge or exitement. This total lack of the core market of gamers has ensured massive succes for nintendo but at the cost of its games. Without the sheer graphical power of the 360 or the ps3 they have no games that can create a trully beautifull enviroment that can fully emerse the gamer in it. With out the core group of gamers they lack an audience who will truly apreciate the video game as an art form and so there will not be a need for the inensity of combat scene in call of duty4 or the vast worlds and storylines scene in mass efect and oblivion. So in conclusion you can wait for virtual reality or buy a piece of history and hope that it is not remembered as a gimmick or you can live for the moment and buy some hard assed super steriod injected adreniline. By the way sonics has gone down hill since he went 3-D.

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A system wins by the options that it provides in it's bundles. BY FAR the PS3 gives you the most out of a machine to date. A built in HD player, wireless, free online gaming, wireless controller. Games are better and will continue to get better for the system. It will prevail in the end and have a lasting impact on the gaming community for the next decade. Just as the PS2 did.

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why do people always think its about eye candy (graphics) it makes things look good. but it doesnt make things good. Wii is the only console on the market that is next gen. its been amazing on all fronts, its the thing on the market, alot of people are like "wii is a fad" really? so all this time like 15-20 million people have just been wasting there money on a "fad" fanboys need to recognise, raw power gets you good looking games, it doesnt get you good games. think why the Wii is doing so good. think why games like ratchet and clank are rubbish, and games like kane & lynch.....its about gameplay, and that is exactly what nintendo offers, great games with great gameplay, not great looking games with rubbish gameplay. i rest my case... @ metc123...it deffinatly has broken away from its peers

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In my opinion The Wii is the SuPer Nintendo 2 Its a super console.... Broken away from its peers in terms of greatness. Who will stop wii?? The only thing that will stop the wii wining the console wars is Nintendo itself

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Q in the XBOX 360 fanboys who will say anything to put down the PS3...even though IMO it is better

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Sk8er93 is an idiot.

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PS3 WILL PWN

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oh and btw @ SK8R93 You obviously don't own an Xbox or Halo because I played Halo 2 from the day it was released all the way until Halo 3 was released... Thats right, there were no other games in between there because there was no need to spend money when I was having as much fun as I was playing Halo online. I don't expect every gamer to say the same thing, but I know personally that Halo 3 will remain in my 360 until the next sequel arrives. Halo to me is THE most enjoyable FPS ever released for online play, and I have played a LOT of FPS online and off. Wolfenstein, Doom 1/2/3, Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, Counter Strike/source, Half-Life series, all the Quakes, Call of Duty 1-3, Battlefield 1942/2, Far Cry, AVP, Timesplitters series, and countless no-name not worth mentioning like Nightfire and America's Army.

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Halo 3, WoW, and Super Smash Bros. (and hundreds of games from the past) to me prove that graphics don't make the game, but great high-end games dont rely solely in what the eye can see. Look at 1/2 of the Wii games and you can see that. Smooth framerates, advanced AI, top-notch physics, and seamless online play all rely on the system's tech-specs. I honestly don't see developers striving for much other than wowing gamers by showing them pretties on the screen. Developers like Nintendo (who have no choice now that their console can't offer the likes of the PS3/360), Bungie, and Capcom (Suda 51 is one of the biggest risk-takers in the industry) are some developers to name a few that are working hard behind their game design to provide more than merely eye-candy. I also applaud Konami for not overhyping the visuals of MGS4, because as we all know, the series isn't known for its stunning visuals but its amazing story-telling.

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ps3 will win it everyone says 360 just becaseu its been out longer and has more games. but reall the only game 360 has on the ps3 is halo 3 and thats not that great you beat it and its doen online is the same gets boring after a while. and the ps3 has Ratchet and Clank Future, Heavenly Sword, and alot more to come. so by next year ps3 will pass up the 360 no doubt.

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Xbox 360 definatley has the console war no-doubt. PS3 cant compete with its mediocre games. Wii's graphics are horrible there-for taking away from gameplay for me anyway. XBOX has it all

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so one game.. burnout has better graphics on ps3 u dismiss every other 3rd partyy game. that sucks in terms of frame rates and graphic quality compared to xbox. also saying 'if they both came out at same time ps3 would make the xbox look **** then u are stupid.. and dismissing that developers have to learn, they spent a year learning to develop next gen on xbox (admittedly different architecture but) that would have benefited ps3. if you read the specifications for the gpus that will tell you . the potential lies within the xbox in graphics. tbh i play halo and the graphics are **** on it which doesnt botther me, wat does is you fools awaiting something that is likely not to happen.

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Whoever says there should only be 1 console is Dumb. If there wasn't competition The Developers wouldn't work as hard and they would slack. (Kinda Like EA on Madden, No Competition and what do you get a trashy football game.)

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The Wii is innovative and all, but just look at it. It's last gen technology. You really can't get that deep into it. Great for parties and all, but sit down alone once and try to play it. In a few hours you'll have beaten Twilight Princess and be mad at yourself for buying this piece of crap. But nice job on the price. Every mom in the US or Europe will be buying one for their kid this Christmas. If it wasn't for the shortages, which totally kills it. The Wii will probably come in second place for Christmas sales. Nice job, Nintendo. /Sarcasm. The Xbox 360 is a great machine. Good graphics, good controls, good power...it truly is next-gen. I applaud. But as for bragging about exclusives, I couldn't care less. Eventually I'll get all the 360 games on PC, so there's no reason to buy it. And paying for online. Pfft, yeah right. But it's just not really revolutionary. And the freaking red light of death, holy crap! Nice job! /Sarcasm. I think everyone who wants one has already gotten one, and Christmas isn't going to do much for Microsoft, other than all the exclusives that will be bought. Plus you have to pay twenty extra dollars for an essential cord. With the online, the cord, the breaking down, and the system itself, this is probably the most expensive and annoying console. Meaning I think it will come in third for holiday sales. The PS3 is my favorite, and the only one I play regularly. It totally crushes the Wii's main advantage, motion sensing. Now that they're putting rumble back in, the PS3 controller will be the best out of all the next-gen systems. Blu-ray is definitely the next DVD player, which makes PS3 the best in terms of graphics. However, it falls to second place in terms of storage space. Free online is great, especially when Home comes out, making it best in terms of online. They don't have many exclusives, which sucks. But when they DO keep an exclusive, they do it right. MGS, GoW, and every GTA after IV. Nice job on that. The price of course will be a drawback, but now that they cut them, the Christmas prices will skyrocket. It's coming in first for Christmas.

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PS3 will win no q about it. as the article says its at a slow spot

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To: Anyone who wants one universal console That's never going to happen because you'll never see one store, one game development company, one movie company, one movie theatre, one computer company, one TV station, one school...etc. That's just life people want to make their own money not share it with everyone. Think of it like group singers eventually the strongest singer will go solo. Compitition is everywhere not just in gaming and life would be a lot boring.

Would it be interesting if everyone thought the same or had their own unique idea / thoughts?

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iamfear has a point,but thats like sayin 1 fast food chain or 1 supermarket,its all money

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I agree with Rob, there should just be one console. Why does there have to be so much fighting, who cares, I want to play a game because it's fun, not because it's on a certain system or whatever. Honestly, if all the companies put their heads together and made a system it would be amazing, but everyone's to stuck up on whose graphics are better, or who has a better processor and whatnot. It's ridiculous. I have all three consoles and I think they all have fun games and people need to quit with all the rivalry bull crap

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ps3 has greater potential,got both xbox and ps3 runnin on hd tv and they are both awsome.what pi$$es me off is most games are out for both platforms,its all down to personal preferance,i say ps3 because of online play and the pad,but at the mo,graphics are the same.

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i agree gamehead, like people always sayin 360's better, COME ON NOW, it had a year of games, updates, upgrades.....etc, ps3 just started, imagin if the 360 and ps3 started out on the same day, ps3 would make the 360 look like sh!t, so stop complainin, yea 360 has a great liberty of games but it wont have god of war3, or metal gear solid wont it

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360 hands down

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dude that article was old...they did the article when the ps3 was released and x box was in its firs year...how fair is that....they should compare burnout paradise, the ps3 one is far much better then the 360 one. And as for ps3 graphics, well i'll like to say it has the most potential...just look at the graphics of heavenly sword and uncharted, those were all done in its first year.

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and to steel wats your face. your talking rubbish, xbox is more than capable. the graphics processor (yes repeating myself) is actually more powerful. you are justifying your purchase of your ps3 with resolution crap. you can actually look at xbox games and see they are better graphics, gamespot even did an article where the xbox won ! so shut up ? i love you all

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why does this stupid man think the ps3 will provide better graphics. here is my theory, i can back up if u would like. the ps3 is so much like the ps2. it has a powerful processor but not quite as powerful graphics processor. the xbox 360 is like the xbox. it has a less powerful processor but a more powerful graphics processor. that theory makes me feel that like the xbox 1 did, graphically the 360 will be ahead, like it is right now. is this man stupid or am i ? wateva

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Why should I have to buy a PS3 just to play Resistance, Drake and Folklore. These are the only games exclusive to the PS3 that interest me. I would be much happier if every game was multi-platform or if there was just one universal console. It seems pathetic that this could be as much as 15 years away. I'm sick of having to cough up money every generation just to play every game, when there's only couple of games I'm really interested in that are system exclusive.

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I just wonder why videogame consoles are so retarded in terms of human interface compared to the actual technology's possibilities. I mean, I was playing with a helmet and motion sensitive controller in slut machines about the age of 11 (I'm 18 now)

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To nintendo kid (Below) movies run in 30 fps. It's not necessary to have 60 plus. After 30 you start to rely on the technology you use. Games that run in 30 fps have more of a cinematic feel the 60 fps games. I'm not going to justify madden on the ps3 but i think all games are trying to give games that cinematic effect now.

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"Y...year...of...t-t.h......" Nope, can't say it.

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@steel_rain777 360 has the ability to display 1080p, since day one. It was the decision to not include HDMI because MS felt it wasn't the right time (remember, this was 2005 when BD/HD-DVD format wars wasn't full-blown). To get the 360 to display 1080p, all the engineers had to do was enable it via coding and of course, including a HDMI output. Sure, it has had trouble with compatibility, but you are missing the point. The point is that 360 HAS ALWAYS HAD THE ABILITY TO DISPLAY 1080P. The fact that Halo 3 runs at 640 natively has nothing to do with the hardware itself. That is a software limitation - DID YOU FORGET ABOUT MADDEN 08 RUNNING 30FPS ON PS3 AND RUNNING A SOLID 60FPS ON 360? I'll take Xbox360 Madden 08 720p over PS3 Madden 08 1080p any day. Concerning XBL, you get what you pay for. You are using the internet, right? Let me take a good guess: YOU PAY TO USE THE INTERNET! Why don't you go use some free dial-up internet with pop-ups if you want to talk about saving money. It was XBL that pushed console online gaming to what it is today. If it wasn't for that service, we would still be running shoddy service, like PSN, with a lot of talk about how they will improve the service but to no avail. Shall we say...PWNED?

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Can anyone say: Year of the PS3?

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i agree its always best to have all of the systems but when more AAA titles come out for the PS3 THATS when i will buy it. But right now the 360 has a majority of the great games of 2007.

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To; Some_One_Plays I've got UT3 for PC and it rocks. I'm getting Unreal Anthology for PC this Friday (as a B-Day gift to thine self). My rig specs are: 3.33GHz CPU, 1.024GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 8500 (512MB) GPU. My frame rates run at around 25-30 fps. But early next year I'm bumping up my RAM to 2GB, that should put me over 40 fps. Besides, Hollywood movies run at 24 fps. So my current performance is decent at settings on 3 and 1200x1024 res.

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True gamers already own or will eventually have ALL three systems. I've personally witness great and decent titles from ALL THREE. I can't stand missing ANY great games regardles of which platfrom it comes out on. Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime on Wii, Warhawk and Uncharted for PS3, Gears of War, Bioshock,Halo 3, Ace Combat and now Mass Effect for x360. These are some of decent titles from ALL platforms currently available, and in my opinion ANY "open-minded" GAMER would enjoy. I'm sure there's some title decent titles I missed but you "get the picture", there's no ONE platform that's gonna have ALL the great games and the best part is that you'll almost never experience a drought. But being able to talk to fellow gamers about ANY game on ANY platform objectively is PRICELESS. "It is better to HAVE and not need, then to NEED and not have."

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" However, one thing that may hinder Nintendo's home run this Christmas is that even if everyone wants one, no one can seem to find one on the shelves." Strange? almost a million Wii systems were sold in november so how do they say its hard to find it. Seems to me like those million disagree.

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If only there was just 1 universal console *sigh*

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All you people need to get a life, stop arguing over bloody game consoles, just buy it and play the games and have fun. There is no need for this "System War" crap, there are bigger things that need arguing about.

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good luck to all 3 franchises . have a very merry Christmas and happy new year.(fingers crossed for sony)hehe .

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meh. The wii has won. That much is pretty clear to me. Everyone I talk to gamer or not wants a wii. There are more and more good titles coming out all the time to cement the base. It won't even matter if the 360 or ps3 comes out with some great exclusives as well at this point. The market has spoken and everyone wants a wii. As long as it puts out some good or great titles on a fairly regular basis the casual gamers it has pulled in will stay hooked. The marketing has already spoken. Wii has won by a longshot.

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it beats me how ppl moan bout fanboys and arguing over consoles and then you get an article provocatively called "system wars" no wonder ppl then go about bashing each other :-(

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RE5 isnt an exclusive either

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tootergray34 You must have some special account or something because the average Joe spends less than $5.oo a month for Live.

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I agree, that PS3 will win...but only because of Blu-Ray. Once the heavy hitting exclusives come in like RE5, FFIX, MGS, and many more, people will no doubt be purchasing more consoles...plus...free online play. I don't care if it can sometimes pale in comparison to XBOX Live...which is does for the time being...but the big thing is I don't have to cough up 15 bucks or so a month for it. While that isn't a lot of money...it is to some people. And when you figure out the price of the consoles...they are really just about even when you think of the extra money you will pay for XBOX Live. Anyways that's my take.

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It would be awesome if sony and microsoft teamed up for a console next gen! Not gonna happen, but still

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