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Sony may "monitor and record" all PSN activity on PlayStation 4

Updated Software Usage Terms say PlayStation maker can collect voice and text data to enforce Terms and to comply with law.

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Ahead of the PlayStation 4's launch this week, Sony has updated its Software Usage Terms (via Polygon) to explain that the company may "monitor and record" any or all PlayStation Network activity, including voice and text message data. The company can do so enforce the Terms and to comply with pertinent law, Sony said.

"We reserve the right in our sole discretion to monitor and record any or all of your PSN activity and to remove any of your UGM [user-generated media] at our sole discretion, without further notice to you."

The Terms of Usage apply to all authorized PlayStation systems, including PlayStation 2, PSP, PlayStation 3, PlayStation Vita, and PS4.

"Any information collected in this way, for example, your UGM, the content of your voice and text communications, video of your gameplay, the time and location of your activities, and your name, your PSN Online ID, and IP address, may be used by us or our affiliated companies to enforce these Terms and the SEN Terms of Service, to comply with the law, to protect our rights and those of our licensors and users, and to protect the personal safety of our employees and users," the document goes on.

This information can be handed over to the police or other appropriate authorities, Sony said. Accepting the Software Usage Terms means users consent to this.

Though Sony may monitor and record PSN activity, the company said users should not worry about the company having a permanent and exhaustive record of their online actions.

"We can't monitor all PSN activity and we make no commitment to do so," Sony said.

The updated Terms of Usage also points out that all PlayStation software is "licensed, not sold," meaning players acquire rights to use software, but do not own said software. As such, players are not permitted to resell disc-based games or downloads, Sony said, unless Sony grants permission. This policy has been in place since the original PlayStation, though Sony has never blocked the sale of secondhand games.

Sony confirmed at the 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo in June that the secondhand market on PS4 will work just as it does currently on PS3. No restrictions for used games will be in place.

The PS4 launches this Friday, November 15 in North America.

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So Sony and Micosoft have both done 180s on everything they said they would or wouldn't do. Only Microsoft is headed in the right direction and Sony isn't. Microsofts biggest problem to start was telling the truth from the start, they should just adopt Sonys lie first policy and sneak everything in when no ones looking strategy.

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@masfima1 this policy has been on for a long time already even on the PS3 its nothing new

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Still is better than Microsoft's terms and conditions, and nuff said about the hardware and the second-handed games, multiplayer, etc

I do prefer the PS4 in several ways. But I will stick with my PS3 for a while

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see, I told u ppl to buy a Xbone. Sony is essentially the same as MS, if not worse.

oh wait.

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Oh no! They're spying on us!

No. This monitoring activity, I bet has something to do with mods being online. Yes, the same shit that's been going on since we started gaming online and the douchbags who try to ruin the experience for us by cheating or hacking the games.

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Meh that isn't so bad. That is only on PSN. There are things a thousand times worse like having a spy camera in your house that watches you all the time. Of course there isn't a company that would do that......Oh wait......*cough Microsoft*

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Oh, you mean that spy camera that doesn't need to be connected at all? That one? Fucking idiot.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yes, yes you are.

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I'll reiterate this for the stupid people:

They're only collecting PSN activity - activity that goes through their servers.

What they are not doing is monitoring, collecting, and sharing your voice/offline activity, like a certain other company.

They're not collecting anything locally. It's a huge difference.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> That certain other company will do that...if you give them permission...

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How is this news? I figured they have always collected data on all of its users who use their service. Really, what company doesn't collect this sort of information?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> GameSpot seems to be inciting a flame war. There's really nothing different about the PS4 and the PS3 in terms of data collection.

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Its nice to see that Sony have finally confirmed everything some of us already knew (yet evaded the general populace). They monitor information just as much as MS/Google/Apple/anyone and that games are never owned but licensed.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The article does not suggest that at all. Microsoft and Google and Apple all send their data to the NSA spy program called PRISM. Sony would never do that.

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<< LINK REMOVED >>

If I had a dollar for every time I heard "Sony would never do that" I'd buy a fish, an slap you round the face with it.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> You really think Sony are exempt? You really think the American government would allow Sony to operate in the US if they did not comply? Sony's T&Cs state just as clearly that they are allowed to share information with the authorities when requested.

While there is no definitive proof that MS/Google etc willingly supply information to the NSA (apart from when they are requested to divulge info as part of a warrant), it should take a rather large leap of faith to believe they are the only companies doing it.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Sony would never comply to such a ridiculous order. There's no way the US Gov and NSA would be able to force them to do anything. Besides, Edward Snowden has leaked the details and I'm sure Sony would have been mentioned somewhere in there. Might as well do some research before you make a wild assumption.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> What if Sony didn't have a choice but to do just that? MS claims it abided by US law, what if Sony has to do the same?

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Well that's not good.

At least they aren’t trying to force people to pay for a HD night vision capable camera/microphone that could potentiality be used to directly spy on people in there own homes, so it isn't as bad as what Microsoft are doing.

It is bad though.

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It's responsible for a business to monitor their networks for stability and to weed out criminal activity. I don't see how you can construe this is a bad thing unless you tend to break the law on your Playstation...

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@conorhat So when Sony does it it's "for stability and to weed out criminal activity," but when MS does it it's for spying. Okay then.

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@Shadowdanc3r MS is doing it to collate and sell/share with affiliates. They already admitted it at an Advertising conference.

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@conorhat

It is a bad thing because people deserve privacy.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>

On a pc things can be done about that with software and such(to some degree) besides when one pays for something like a console or a subscription a company should be even more concerned about respecting the privacy of their customers.

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@Yulaw2000 @pspearman It will collect data on the Playstation network. If you want privacy, you probably shouldn't be on the Internet in the first place, do you have any idea how many companies are tracking you right now without your consent? DoNotTrackMe plug-in for chrome is showing 8 companies that are trying to collect my identifiable data from this site alone.

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"expect"? Maybe not. but deserve, yes, especially as a paying customer. Unfortunately as psn/xbl are services it seems that Sony and Microsoft can currently get away with this from a legal perspective but that doesn't automatically make it right.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> People deserve privacy in their own homes, however, when you opt to use someone else's services (such as XBL/PSN/Facebook etc) then you cannot expect your privacy to be maintained. While some information is protected via the Data Protection act, anything else is free game when you decide to use a service.

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This is so they can weed out the users who are abusing their network for criminal activity, hardly anything to make a news article about.

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Apple does the same thing with Siri. Literally every stupid thing you ask Siri to do is sent to Apple and fed through an algorithm, so eh, get used too it.

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Is there a point to replying to Facebook users? Do they see our messages?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> nope they don't, it makes no sense their comments being shown here.

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Glad to hear Sony will be spying on their customers. I'm sure they are glad too. It gives them giddy feelings inside.


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Sony...The master of the "Bait and Switch"

The promised resume and

play feature delayed.

Ability to change your

wallpaper delayed.

The promised friend

assist delayed.

Only plays games without

a patch.

Remote play doesn't work

as advertised.

No DNLA

No external HDD support

No voice overs for your

videos.

No Youtube.

No CD's or MP3's.

No music visualizer.

PS3 bluetooth headsets

will not work.

Light bar can not be

turned off.

Still can't change your

PSN ID.

Terms of Service just
released show Sony may monitor and record communication

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@Ramon Gonzalez MS still is making you pay for the thing and if you don't want it then you should be ticked.

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