Rockstar hiring to bring "latest titles" to PC

@CaptainBerserk @GSGuy321 Yeah, that's true. Every true and honest gamer should respect the work the developers put into making the games. It's the only way to keep gaming (and developers) alive.... :)

@GSGuy321 lol soccer games no thanks! but seriously i hope some day people here will get real , stealing games is wrong on any platform.

Put it this way Berserk, when the world cup comes next year to your country, you can have FIFA14 and PES2014 on Nuveem.

And because it's on PC you will get all the Mods !

@GSGuy321 @LordCrash88 @CaptainBerserk @mindfreak1235 It is. I preordered Rome 2 there ;)

@LordCrash88 @CaptainBerserk @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321

Pretty amazing site eh

@CaptainBerserk @LordCrash88 @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321 It's the biggest PC games distribution platform in Brasil (even I buy games there from time to time....)

Actually it's not like steam, it just sells keys/games for steam, uplay, origin and older games without account binding.

https://www.nuuvem.com.br/

@CaptainBerserk @LordCrash88 @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321

It's like Steam.

Like Gabe said, it's always a service issue.

@LordCrash88 @CaptainBerserk @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321

nuuvem? never heard of. :P

@CaptainBerserk @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321 But you have nuuvem in brasil which is followed by 14.3 millions people on twitter. So at least they must sell some PC games in Brasil..... ;)

@mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321 @CaptainBerserk

I'm from Brasil, you are right, modded consoles are very common here (mostly the 360)and legit PC gaming is nonexistent, however the legit market for the PS3 is huge. Now if GTA5 PC version would released simultaneously with consoles it would definitely hurt their sales here.

@mindfreak1235 @LordCrash88 @CaptainBerserk Yeah, I know and I appreciate it. I just wanted to bring the dicsussion back to the bullshit the console fanboy started......which probably wasn't the best idea on second thought.... :P

@LordCrash88 actually @CaptainBerserk brought the discussion of the different countries so just stating some facts.

@mindfreak1235 It doesn't even matter that much. For the big publishers these are only niche markets. Just look in which countries the Xbox One will come at release. They don't care about the whole plant. If someony in country XYZ buys a game, cool, if not, ok. Sounds hard, but that's the business. The big or major money is made in the US and Europe...

@GSGuy321 @mindfreak1235 @CaptainBerserk not only there. also in south asia. and maybe some parts in africa. and the thing is most of them buy retail pirated games so you don't see the actual no. of games that are pirated.

@mindfreak1235 @CaptainBerserk @GSGuy321

In Latin America, it's all modded consoles. The modded console reigns supreme and pirated games are readily available for cheap.

@CaptainBerserk @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321 if you are talking about other countries (mostly 3rd world) they sell modded xbox 360 and ps3 and the pirated games are really cheap.

@CaptainBerserk @mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321 You're right. But the major income is generated in the US and in Europe. That's true for consoles and PC.... ;)

@mindfreak1235 @GSGuy321 Are you guys americans? Its a different reality in other parts of the world. just saying.

@GSGuy321 @EL_Bomberdor the ignorance is too much in this one.

@CaptainBerserk Then I hope you're truly passionate ;)

@Tidal_Abyss yep i'm from Sao Paulo. You need to have a true passion for games to keep things legit in here.

@LordCrash88

Exactly, it's a complicated relationship. The industry which simply says it's a lost sale is just complete fallacy. They make that argument to further their agenda.

@CaptainBerserk S.America? Piracy is big down there.

@CaptainBerserk @LordCrash88 Yeah, but times change. Look at what Gabe said: they never thought that they could establish Steam in Russia and now it's one of their biggest markets in Europe.....you just have to convince people with quality and service.....

Of course there are still places on this planet where hardly anyone buys games new. But that's true for PC games and console games. The arguments are the same. In fact you can't play most of the games on every platform online if you pirated them today, console or PC, doesn't matter.

And you still have to differenciate between the total number of pirated games and the number of lost customers. It's not necessarily the same, not even close. The whole thing (if you want to talk about numbers) is much more complicated than just stating "Piracy is bad because in country XYZ 80% of the games are pirated." You have to look at the price tag of the games, you have to look at the culture in countries, you have to look about all kinds of things.

But if you just concentrate on the US and Europe where most of the income of western developers is generated the difference between piracy on PC and used games sales+piracy on consoles is not that big when you just compare the numbers. And that's still a very simple comparison.....

@LordCrash88 Yes i understand, the problem however is that the PC user base is a lot larger than the console user base,(10 to 1 aprox.) and aside from the usa, europe, canada and some other countries all the rest of the world piracy is the norm, simply because is too easy, anyone can do it and you can easily check that online.

So comparing piracy to the used market isn't fair because the number of pirate users is much larger than used copies will ever be.

Nobody uses Steam where i live for instance.

@Nergathh The point is that it doesn't matter for the business after all. Piracy doesn't change a single thing. As a businessman you have to find out how many people are willing to pay YOU for your product, on PC, on consoles and also in the music business. All the pirates and used games buyers are only potential buyers which you have to convince to buy a new copy FROM YOU. Convince them with quality and service and their willingness will rise. Steam went down this road and it is a massive success.

@GSGuy321 But you can't compare game and music sales since there are better services for music that you can stream instantly with no waiting time. With games you can't but I do understand that those who download games might not have been able to afford them in the first place and that they doesn't matter.

I read the Gabe Newell article you linked and I still feel that it doesn't speak to me. Im not saying you're wrong but I still think it is perfectly easy to pirate games and play them just as easy as to download them from steam and it offers the same value unless a game got multiplayer or co-op which people might not care about anyway aslong as they can play the story. Many people probably think it is worth saving 40-50 EUR to do that.

The only ones making money off the piracy argument is the middlemen: the Recording Industry and their lawyers.

They have created the fallacy in order to make money.

It's like the War on Drugs in America, the only one benefitting are the Police and the Prisons. And it's made the situation even worse.

@Nergathh @GONtheSKYLORD @GSGuy321 The simple thing is: for the publisher/developer there is no economical difference between piracy and used games. Either way they won't see any money from the people who don't buy the games new.
So it's a myth that the financial risk on PC market because of piracy is higher than on consoles (which are still heavy on used games sales)......

Gabe Newell: Piracy Is A ‘Non Issue’

http://www.gamefront.com/gabe-newell-piracy-is-a-non-issue/

Another study finds music piracy 'does not displace digital sales'

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-03/21/music-piracy-doesnt-hurt-sales