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PAX '07: Japanese Gaming Culture 101

Panel addresses the distinct differences between Eastern and Western societal approaches to the interactive medium.

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SEATTLE--With the launch of Nintendo's Wii and DS in the US, gaming has rapidly been garnering a widespread appeal--and acceptance--in US culture. However, despite America's newfound enthusiasm for the interactive medium, it pales in comparison to gaming in Japan, where games are more a lifestyle choice than just a hobby. The verve with which the Japanese approach gaming is as foreign as their language to Americans, and at the last day of the Penny Arcade Expo, several resident experts took a look at this phenomenon.

Moderating the "Culture of Japanese Gaming" session and lending insight on the retail aspect of gaming in Japan was Nathan Paine, coowner of Seattle-based game import outlet Pink Godzilla. Also speaking at the panel were gaming journalist Dan Tochen on the Japanese arcade scene and Mike Norman on commercials for games in the Land of the Rising Sun. The panel also featured a special guest appearance by Koushi Kondou, president of Japanese tabletop role-playing game maker Bouken.

Paine opened the session by noting the drastic differences between retail stores in Japan and those in the US. As opposed to the lifeless, stark retail experiences that many Western gamers are familiar with, Paine said that the retail experience in Japan is often as exciting as actually playing the games. The primary reason for this is the massive appeal of retro gaming in Japan. In Den Den Town--a world-renowned shopping district in Osaka, Japan--Paine said that retailers go to great lengths to procure and stock rare and classic games, such as Radiant Silvergun on the Sega Saturn, because it enhances their reputation and helps them in the highly competitive market.

The approach is in stark contrast to American retailers, who have the opposite mentality of only catering to the latest and greatest games, said Paine. He went on to say that in Japan, you can be assured that all of the retro products you buy have gone through an extensive testing process, and are only made available in as pristine a condition as is possible. Retailers also know the value of rare games, and are more than willing to offer appropriate compensation for your trade-ins, as opposed to US retailers, who offer a mere fraction of the resale value.

Tochen then took over the panel to address arcade culture in Japan. Whereas the heyday of the American arcade died out in the '80s, Japanese arcades are a growing and vibrant industry. Last year alone, he noted, the Japanese arcade industry pulled in $7.5 billion, which is more than half of the US's total aggregate revenues in the gaming business. Nearly 40 percent of the Japanese gaming market revenues are from arcades, as opposed to a fraction of a percent in the US. Tochen also stated that a single play in a Japanese arcade is typically 100 yen ($0.86), with the more complex or involved games scaling up to around 200 yen ($1.72).

According to Tochen's research, there are more than 24,000 arcades in Japan. A sizable number, he noted, seeing as Japan is roughly the size of California. Further, each of these arcades average 30 games, and they're located in some of the most highly trafficked areas, such as near subway terminals. Subsequently, arcades are nearly always packed with people, with every machine filled and plenty of observers loitering around.

Mike Norman then discussed game ads in Japan. As opposed to the clinical approach to advertisement in the West, the Japanese launch into a full-fledged spectacle. To evidence this, Norman ran a montage of Japanese commercials that involved Segata Sanshiro, which translates to "You Must Play Sega Saturn." Sanshiro's antics included training on a near-constant basis to play the Saturn, as well as physically accosting those who are not playing the system.

Norman noted that this strategy simply would not be accepted in the US, especially the one where Segata beats a few grade school kids with their own baseball bats after they dared to emerge from their living rooms to engage in physical activity. Another strategy that would not work is the use of gaming icons to promote other products in Japan. He then ran a commercial filled with what appeared to be Dance Dance Revolution characters as they promoted their extremely well-fitting and leak-preventing feminine hygiene products.

Closing out the panel was a Q&A session with Koushi Kondou. Despitie several lost-in-translation moments, Kondou did lend interesting insight into why many Western games don't achieve the same magnitude of success in Japan. Referring specifically to Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto series, Kondou noted that these types of games are simply too dark for a Japanese audience. Kondou noted that even in the most violent Japanese games, there is typically always a moment where the two opposite sides stop beating on each other and receive a peaceful resolution. The problem, he said, was the lack of a peaceful resolution or a lightening of the mood. "Someone needs to apologize at the end," he said.

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@DiscoBurn A lot of the things Americans pick up on Anime wise are the dark ones. That's not a blanket statement, but being stationed in Japan, 90% of Anime was a young, upbeat, adventure where more often then not, things turned out great. But yes, there's also the other end of the spectrum. I think was the comment in the article was saying was, in Japan, if a game is going to be a mainstream success, it needs to be something with a positively resolved ending to appeal to all audiences. There will always be the hardcore violent games, but they won't be the ones that you'd find 8 to 40 year old gamers playing. It's the Dragon Quests, Marios, and Nintendogs of the industry that really display how Japan successfully does business with their people.

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I love Japan.

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@mhder: You know that in this artical it talks about the fact the Japan loves arcardes than consoles. So when all these people love arcardes, there is no room for fanboy-ism.

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@diablobasher , There's a building called WTC in pretty much every country + every major city in the world. So before you go running your pro-USA mouth, learn about how the rest of the world.. because your country depends on it as much as the rest of the world depends on the USA.

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I don't think we're allowed to talk politics, but if a game has so much politics in it, then what the ---- should we do? :)

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I've noticed that gaming has becoming much like politics. It doesn't matter what one person says, most people are so rooted in their beliefs/sides that they won't bother to listen. It's much like dems vs Cons .. Sony vs Nint vs MS... And for this thread.. It's us vs them.. Japan vs the West. People come up with as many far fetched ideas and stereotypes as possible to try to convince people who are not going to be convinced because they've already decided which side they're on. It'd be nice to have an intellectual debate but apparently gamers don't seem to be capable of that anymore. The one funny thing is... I don't see these kinds of childish fanboy arguments in Japanese forums.. If anything, they actually play the games instead of worrying about what other people think.. Maybe that's something the innovative west can learn from the Japanese.

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@ Outlawlaw - games can be sequels but they evolve. Final Fantasy has changed so much since the earlier days that I don't recognize it yet there is a familiarity that makes it FF. If the west is the land of innovation.. why do we see so many war based games.. and shooters and gangstar style themes? I'm not saying Japan doesn't have its share of copycats and clones but to say the west is the land of innovation.. that's a pretty big stretch.. besides FPS, what's the last big thing in gaming the west came out with?

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I love arcardes so I play in them every time I see one. About 2 of 5 malls where I live has one. Plus this is why MS is failing in (thanks to mpeg3s for that statment) as they don't release an entire machine for arcarde games, they use XBLA for arcarde games. And most of the time I skip over these games simply of the fact that I have to buy points (mainly $10 worth of points) to get games that are for the arcardes anyway (meaning that they suck on a console, why buy an arcade game for $10 when you can get PGR3 for $20). MS should release a Muti-arcade machine (alot of games in one machine) which they get more bang for there buck. The last game I played that made me feel cool was Time Crisis 2 simply cause it had a cool pistol and I kicked anyone's butt (could have used another word if you know what I mean) that came my way. My point is, why can't arcades come back in "style" like classic rock or like other clothes that was in the 70s that was "cool" lost that "cool" and now is "cool" again in these present times.

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@blue_vampire you can make that eu+us are different in gaming preferance's to japan ( the rest of asia seems to get on ok with western devco products ?) just look at what sells from large to small quantity's in the mentioned regions , as for microsoft failing in japan pfffff game sales still very healthy on the 360 despite not making ground in japan , make of that what you will but i wonder weather microsoft would do better just to pull out of japan and concentrate on the rest ?

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"Someone needs to apologize at the end," Hardly. Japanese games/entertainment(namingly anime and manga) have the best of both worlds. The lighthearted games and stories are very popular, but their dark stories, and twisted violence is way more brutal than anything I've ever seen. Anyone watch Elfen Lied? It's brilliant. And nobody apologizes at the end.

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"How can we get the Us back to this arcadic mentality?!? I loved going to arcades as a kid, but as home consoles got better than what you could get at an arcade to spend the rest of ones weekly allowance, arcades went out of style..." Well, i dunno about the US, but in the UK, the "£1 per play, and we wont ever bother to fix broken machines or get new/decent games in" mentality made arcades pretty much die before they had even started up. In japan, they care about the state of their machines, and their customers, the machines aren't just a little money on the side of whatever bowling alley they are owned by. If joysticks get broken, they are replaced with care, if a game is popular, they get more of it (Street Fighter in an arcade outside of japan is such a rarity it's not even funny)

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Here's where MS fails!

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Can we all please just accept that the US and Japan are two different countries with different cultures? If you can answer that question, you can probably answer why Halo (and most of the highly rated FPS) is (almost) completely ignored in Japan and Gundam (whatever) always sell so well no matter how many times it come out. Anyway, I was in Osaka for a while...their arcade culture? how about an online-Tekken...no, that's not good enough... but I love Mario Kart Arcade 2 although I think most of the arcade revenue in Japan came from UFO catcher

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How can we get the Us back to this arcadic mentality?!? I loved going to arcades as a kid, but as home consoles got better than what you could get at an arcade to spend the rest of ones weekly allowance, arcades went out of style... and this SUCKS. The last time I went to an arcade and had fun battling other random neighborhood gamers was when Killer Instinct came out. That's like TEN years ago now. There is no "hangout" anymore for the US gaming culture. Us gamers are satiated with Extro/introverted laziness with the online gaming medium that keeps them from leaving the house, and remaining too comfortably anonymous in our gaming societies.

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Golly rdo, you are really really idiotic. First of all dollars don't magically beat yen, there is something called an exchange where things can be priced at the same value across currencies. Japan is not a fringe market, its a core market. Europe is a core market, the US is a core market. Each core market has different desires. One could say that the US developers have to start making soccer games for Europe and Japan if they want to stay in business (according to your perverted take on reality.) They certainly aren't buying Madden.

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Outlawlaw yes i guess i did conridict my own statement by preaching and i feel stupid for that but i am not ignorant sir for throwing my two cents into this arguement (or lack thereof) ok so japan is the land of sequels eh? well what about halo 1, halo 2, halo 3 UT 1 - 3 and all of the other sequels and maybe other titles that are innovative and groundbreaking japanese and american developers are as bad as each other and i was only stating that americans seem to have this small minded view of japanese games as being either boring or non violent and thanks kavadias1981 i too have visited america and a small minority did treat me like a piece of S### since i am an aussie with a english accent (much to my furious debate that i am infact an aussie) so sorry to offend all the americans on this site but i really had a headache with those who couldn't get over my accent

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Now to post on the report. I think it is great, highlighting the differences between eastern and western gaming. In my opinion it is the mixture of eastern and western influences that makes this industry as great as it is.

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@WizengamotX You are entitled to your opinion. I do hope it was meant to be funny. It certainly made me laugh. The majority of it seemed to be made up of the-single-man-that-lives-in-his mother's-basement style of preaching. As a man with a family, friends and a social life, I am going to give you some good advice. Get out of the basement, meet some people and try to rid yourself of those weird opinion's of yours.

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christ you americans are small minded and preachy Ignorance abounds in your narrow-minded generalization sir. You would do well to refrain from making such ill-founded claims. :P. Oh yes, and it's best not to claim others are preachy and then go on for THREE paragraphs of...preaching. Now I'm going to preach, being an awesome American and everything. There's a difference between Japanese gamers and gamers from another CULTURE? NO WAY!!! Maybe that's why I'm bored to tears when playing Final Fantasy. Perhaps that's also the reason I'm not thrilled with the 300th iteration of the same Japanese RPG with a different theme too? Japan is the land of sequels, the west is the land of innovation and new/interesting titles. I don't really need to prove it do I? Which final fantasy are we on? 13? How many different versions and for how many different systems is Final Fantasy one on? Tekken? Armored Core? Mario? Sonic? Street Fighter? We're working up the numbers on Soul Caliber and Resident evil as well (though to RE's credit it had a huge turn around with 4). Medal Gear solid was supposed to be done after 2, now we're up to 4? Give me a break. The reason why Western titles don't find a niche in the Japanese market is because the Japanese gamer is perfectly happy buying the same thing over and over again, with a slight upgrade, be it graphics or an added mode.

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@ WizengamotX "Word. West is best. Oh and for those guys that thumbed my comment down. You don't have to agree with me, just respect my opinion, and stop being so hypocritical about yours. Get a life man. For real." Yes, indeed: for real. I respect your opinion but just like you have the choice to write what you want, I also have the choice to rate down your bs statement.

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christ you americans are small minded and preachy all i have heard so far is that "japanese developers gotta start making western style games to compete" if you mean they should make games that are all sparkle and no substance then i want nothing to do with that. i personally enjoy games that involves the player on a emotional level and makes the player learn about their culture, pasts and futures i can enjoy mindless violence but it gets old fast, that is how i feel BTW in response to WizengamotX's little rant about how america "controls everything" i say this if you drop enough bombs people will back down and surrender

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A lot of those anime games are really rushed out here to the American market. Example the DBZ Boudaki series that is complete trash. It sells here but I doubt it's a well perceived in Japan.

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I don't know why there is always a need to compare and bridge the gaming gap between Japan and the US. I'm a big fan of JRPG's and a anime fan, but it's easy to see WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CULTURES. Which isn't a bad thing but different. While Japans arcade scene is way beyond ours, in the last several years there have been way more 1 MILLION+ selling console titles in the US the in Japan. There are many great games from Japan that I don't think a US developer would take a chance at making (ex ICO, Katimari, Persona 3) but for each of these great games there are ten more GUNDAM games done badly by BANDAI, and quickly made anime to games tiles with not only bad graphics but also no story. While I do want more good japanese games to come to our shore, I wouldn't say that japanese developers are better .

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japaneese developers are going to have to make western style games if they want to stay in business. look at dead rising. japan is small compared to europe and america. publishers and developers dont need to make games for japan, they need western style games that make the dollars, which is more important than yen. with the cost of developing for the ps3 many japaneese developers will have to skip that platform if they only want to make non western style games. that is going to leave them will the wii and the pc. the wii is mostly minigames. japaneese apartments are very small, i'm not sure they have the room for a large pc. i'm starting to see why the ds is so popular in japan. but the ds is hardly on the level with a console or pc.

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"We defeated the British, and overcame the French. We influence and control every aspect of world media, fashion, culture, music, movies, food, thinking, games, politics. We control space, the sea and the skies. The UN is headquartered in NYC. The WTC is in NYC. NYC is the economic and cultural center of the Eastcoast, and basically the world." ... Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Overdonfident much?

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Word. West is best. Oh and for those guys that thumbed my comment down. You don't have to agree with me, just respect my opinion, and stop being so hypocritical about yours. Get a life man. For real.

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An average play-through at an Japanese arcade is only $.86?! That's a world I want to live in.

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All I know is that we need more USA games.

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U know something PENNY ARCADe. I dont give a sh*t on Japan, my only concern is western regions, specifically the US. They r lame, they only like hack and slah, dragons and ninja..wtf. like titles like GTA cant sell, i dont know what will, and even more so, I dont care

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I really do believe that American game designers need to come up with more believable characters. A good villain is not someone that is 100% evil but someone that believes what he is doing is for the greater good, just like the hero. Think of Darth Vader , he apologized at the end of Star Wars to Luke. Now do you think the the movie would have bin better if luke would have just killed him in cold blood? Of course not every story can have an ending like this but it would be nice to see a few more thought full "I'm sorry" like endings with a lesson to teach rather then the the usual "lets kill everyone" solution... which sadly are the only solutions in most of American games since most of our stories to tell are so dark.

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Japan has no life, lol

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Some good points made. I've lived and worked in Japan for a number of years and although everything in the video gaming arena seems "nice and quirky" there is an underbelly which to me is disturbing. This relates to games (mostly for PC's) which delves into the areas of exploitation of women and children. Those of you who have been to Japan will know what I am talking about. This is one aspect of otaku culture we don't need from Japan

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It is by time the Japanese game culture has been shed light upon. Ever since I knew that Dragon Warrior/Quest game launches have been banned on working days in Japan, I KNEW that gaming (or, at least, that game) is part of the culture. It is pretty interesting and I hope the contagion spreads universally. It is better than engaging in wars and other universal atrocities.

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Pretty insightful. I wasn't aware that arcades were so popular over in Japan. I thought they died down everywhere. I'd really like full money back on my old games. Mine are always in prime condition. I don't suppose that 'video game induced violence' is a very big issue with Japanese society or their government...The ending subject of the article did make me think that it may not be the games that influence violence in Western society, but it is society's interest that influences Western games.

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Gamestop carries used games and old games dating back to the mid nineties. I'm into school-girls as well as sexual girls, but I don't like sluts. Our heroes in America aren't super violent evil bastards. They are righteous and strong. Our villains aren't giant anime monsters, but psychopathic killers. I'm pretty sure most will agree with me. America is scared of emotion. We are the new Roman Empire, the new Babylonian-Persian-Assyrian Empire, the world power of the past 200 years. We defeated the British, and overcame the French. We influence and control every aspect of world media, fashion, culture, music, movies, food, thinking, games, politics. We control space, the sea and the skies. The UN is headquartered in NYC. The WTC is in NYC. NYC is the economic and cultural center of the Eastcoast, and basically the world. In that sense, Japan is very sheltered as it always has been. You see a higher suicide and murder rate in Japan, caused hypothetically by the pressure of stereotypes and isolation. Dismemberment and abandonment cases are all over the news. Because of their depression, Japan turns to hip hop and tries to be gangster. Nobody buys the crap, and now Japan becomes totally isolated and into games. You see it in Western outcasts. It's easier to turn to a screen and zone out then to deal with life. Well this might come out as racist to some, and the word of God to others, and let me tell you this is half my outspoken opinion and just as important, half the truth. Can you deal? ~WiZ~

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This is a awesome article, and I think gamers from across the globe should read this because it answers a lot about Japan's views on videogames. I'm supposed to go to Japan next year for about 2-3 weeks, and I hope it falls through because I want to witness their arcade and game culture firsthand. :)

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Damn I didn't know Japanese stores collect and sell rare games. It's not like we don't do here in the US but there aren't as many stores. This store called GAMEDUDE does sell old games at a reasonable price. They even carry old magazines, it's funny when u look back and read the things like "the graphics are simply breathtaking" or "the game lets u do what u want!" lol. Games and consoles are sold in fair condition though, so unless u got the money to restore your purchase your gonna have to be careful what u buy.

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I will say that both sides of the coin is viewable here. Here in the west, we do have a tendency to plug out the same crap over and over and over again. Not all the games that simulate others are crappy, but the formula does get tired. Look at Devil May Cry and GTA Vice City. Take that and combine the the gunplay and the sandbox world to get Total Overdose. Another key thing that I think people miss out on here in the west is that some games are just priceless. Don't get me wrong, looking at Smackdown vs. Raw (06, 07, or 08) on any of the current or new consoles, and then trying play WCW/NwO Revenge or No Mercy for the n64 shows a huge difference in where gaming has come. Still, the first time you were able to do more than just body slamming with different characters goes a long way. It's like playing Street Fighter and then playing Tekken. They are extraordinary fighting games, but memorable in their own way. I also think that we here in the west focus a bit too much on technology. The Ps3 is built for the next 10 years or at least that is what Sony says. Break that down into technological years and the system is wired for 5 years. Then you'll hear about how much a PS4 is coming out and an Xbox 480. Japan is not greater just different. Most of the things they put out is really different. We here in the west like to see the biceps on our heroes and the sexiness in our heroines. Over there, they like uber sexual boys that look like girls and girls that look like school girls for some reason. They also focus more on games that are just fun to play or have intricate storylines whereas we here in the west will sometimes sacrifice that for smooth gameplay and exceptional graphics. We have our differences but I think that there can somehow be a bridge to close the gap. Look for example how if you were looking for a game that was perhaps 2 years old here in the west then you are better off looking at Amazon or Ebay as opposed to the local Gamestop because really, they only carry the news stuff. It might sound crazy but if you combine boths styles you might just be surprised at what Goku might look like in Gears of War with a Howitzer and a cigar. And maybe Samus can ditch all of that space stuff for her own stealth suit (keeping the helmet) fighting alongside Master Cheif or Sam Fisher.

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I don't like being piegeonholed into just buying what is availible only in my area. Like its been said a zillion times before if they would realease the stuff here to begin with people wouldnt have to import it. Companies worry too much about what money wont be made and whether or not said stuff is appropriate. It is down right shameful that "kiddie" stuff from other countries is labled NC-17 to practically X here in the US. Is the US that immature and undisciplined? I would hate to think so.

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I don't want to get into a rant, but I know a lot about this subject and have a lot of experience with it. I will say that people are overreacting to the closing comments. This is only one small theory as to why games fail to bridge the culture gap. There are countless reasons and ways to explain this. "Someone needs to apologize at the end" doesn't mean a happy ending, it means emotion and human characters. When the hero is done slaughtering the bad guys, there's still a price to pay emotionally. Villains exist outside of mindless psychopaths who never question their actions. Culture and national psychology have a huge impact on how an individual reacts to art or entertainment in any form and this is a perfect example. Did you know that the stereotypical American hero is traditionally considered a villain in Japanese eyes (and vice versa)? Take a character like Marcus Fenix. Huge, dark, haunted, gritty, scarred, emotionless. Just a giant killing machine. These characters appeal to Western audiences but the Japanese have no connection with them on a hero-level. On the other hand, the emotional, moral, sensitive, thinking (sometimes androgynous) heroes of Japanese culture and games are often looked down upon by Western audiences, or depicted as arrogant, villainous types, because they do not identify with them.

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in general i do like american made games, but they are usually emotionally shallow. It's fun to just run around and shoot people, like in gears (which is an amazing game). But in japanese games you find yourself learning about these characters and how the act and then eventually if the die, lose a loved one, triumph, or get the girl-- you actually feel more emotionally involved in the story. Yet there a plenty of very violent japanese videogames, but i think you can usually find a twisted, and strange, but most importantly well-thought out and written story. I think a big problem when people in america think a game is stupid or whatever has more to do with not only the words not translating correctly, but the meaning as well. Not to say that all japanese games are better than american games, they just come from a completely different orientation. If a japanese company had made gears... nevermind the graphics, or overall story.... the details of the story and how it was presented would be completely different.

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I love Japanese games and anime but I won't put them on a pedestal either. The US has great stuff too. For those of you complaining about Madden being the same every year, have you played MegaMan or Dynasty Warriors? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I personally don't care for football games and I play a lot of Japanese games but I won't let those facts blind me from the truth.

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I think you guys took the "dark and peaceful solution" part too literally and seriously. There's a charm in Japanese games that let's you become attached emotionally to characters and even villians. I"ve rarely come away from a western developed game with a feeling of connection to any of the characters. There's a way that Japanese developers create their characters, games and stories where you can identify with the feelings they are trying to convey. And no, they don't have to say sorry at the end every time but there seems to be some moral lesson at the end... and sometimes even slight political and historical messages. I find most western gamers want to finish a game or want to have an exciting time playing it - all valid reasons.. I think Japanese gamers want an emotional experience more.

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The Otaku nation... and peaceFul resolutions? All GTAs have that! The hero is rich and kicking it back while the villains are six feet under, except for GTA 3 where you are poor, but the villains are still resting in peace.

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Good things about the USA is the variety , and a better economy. Good things about Japan are the arcades, and Anime. (+RPGS) Bad things about Japan, their life revolves around Electronics and Cars, their Economy is going downhill. Bad things about the USA, our Nutcase President, few Arcades, and Electronics Arts ( yup still got that Nascar 98...)

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yeh, they might have a different idea on their video games, apparently violence is not a big thing over there. But some of their anime and comics are just f****d up.. they have some real issues with sexism and self hatred. Ever notice the good guys have big, typiically "white" eyes, while the evil and ugly have more traditional asian eyes?? they can talk all they want bout happy endings, but its only in video games is that true... i cant watch/read their stuff... no offence of course, diff culture

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I think americans just like new and best all the time. plus were not on an island. Everything new is appealing to us.

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I cant believe they use Dance Dance Revolution characters to advertise sanitary towels. That's priceless! I want to see Master Chief advertising Charmin toilet paper. That would rock my socks. Personally, I have deep respect for Japanese culture. Some of it seems a little bit twisted (read: fascinating) and although, when it comes to games they seem to have a bit of one track mind for fantasy RPG's, every once in a while they come up with some mind-bogglingly original stuff, things that western developers would find inconceivable. I do feel it's a great shame that they view western games with the disdain that they do currently. As far as certain games go, they really are missing out. I'm not just talking GTA. Maybe at some point down the line, there will be greater convergence between the two gaming cultures and a happy medium will be found where they get as much pleasure from western games (Halo, Gears of War, though obviously not limited to just those) as we get from Final Fantasy etc. That might be the day when they finally accept the 360... A long way off.... (This post sound a little bit "us vs them," that wasn't intended)

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