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PAX '07: Japanese Gaming Culture 101

Panel addresses the distinct differences between Eastern and Western societal approaches to the interactive medium.

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SEATTLE--With the launch of Nintendo's Wii and DS in the US, gaming has rapidly been garnering a widespread appeal--and acceptance--in US culture. However, despite America's newfound enthusiasm for the interactive medium, it pales in comparison to gaming in Japan, where games are more a lifestyle choice than just a hobby. The verve with which the Japanese approach gaming is as foreign as their language to Americans, and at the last day of the Penny Arcade Expo, several resident experts took a look at this phenomenon.

Moderating the "Culture of Japanese Gaming" session and lending insight on the retail aspect of gaming in Japan was Nathan Paine, coowner of Seattle-based game import outlet Pink Godzilla. Also speaking at the panel were gaming journalist Dan Tochen on the Japanese arcade scene and Mike Norman on commercials for games in the Land of the Rising Sun. The panel also featured a special guest appearance by Koushi Kondou, president of Japanese tabletop role-playing game maker Bouken.

Paine opened the session by noting the drastic differences between retail stores in Japan and those in the US. As opposed to the lifeless, stark retail experiences that many Western gamers are familiar with, Paine said that the retail experience in Japan is often as exciting as actually playing the games. The primary reason for this is the massive appeal of retro gaming in Japan. In Den Den Town--a world-renowned shopping district in Osaka, Japan--Paine said that retailers go to great lengths to procure and stock rare and classic games, such as Radiant Silvergun on the Sega Saturn, because it enhances their reputation and helps them in the highly competitive market.

The approach is in stark contrast to American retailers, who have the opposite mentality of only catering to the latest and greatest games, said Paine. He went on to say that in Japan, you can be assured that all of the retro products you buy have gone through an extensive testing process, and are only made available in as pristine a condition as is possible. Retailers also know the value of rare games, and are more than willing to offer appropriate compensation for your trade-ins, as opposed to US retailers, who offer a mere fraction of the resale value.

Tochen then took over the panel to address arcade culture in Japan. Whereas the heyday of the American arcade died out in the '80s, Japanese arcades are a growing and vibrant industry. Last year alone, he noted, the Japanese arcade industry pulled in $7.5 billion, which is more than half of the US's total aggregate revenues in the gaming business. Nearly 40 percent of the Japanese gaming market revenues are from arcades, as opposed to a fraction of a percent in the US. Tochen also stated that a single play in a Japanese arcade is typically 100 yen ($0.86), with the more complex or involved games scaling up to around 200 yen ($1.72).

According to Tochen's research, there are more than 24,000 arcades in Japan. A sizable number, he noted, seeing as Japan is roughly the size of California. Further, each of these arcades average 30 games, and they're located in some of the most highly trafficked areas, such as near subway terminals. Subsequently, arcades are nearly always packed with people, with every machine filled and plenty of observers loitering around.

Mike Norman then discussed game ads in Japan. As opposed to the clinical approach to advertisement in the West, the Japanese launch into a full-fledged spectacle. To evidence this, Norman ran a montage of Japanese commercials that involved Segata Sanshiro, which translates to "You Must Play Sega Saturn." Sanshiro's antics included training on a near-constant basis to play the Saturn, as well as physically accosting those who are not playing the system.

Norman noted that this strategy simply would not be accepted in the US, especially the one where Segata beats a few grade school kids with their own baseball bats after they dared to emerge from their living rooms to engage in physical activity. Another strategy that would not work is the use of gaming icons to promote other products in Japan. He then ran a commercial filled with what appeared to be Dance Dance Revolution characters as they promoted their extremely well-fitting and leak-preventing feminine hygiene products.

Closing out the panel was a Q&A session with Koushi Kondou. Despitie several lost-in-translation moments, Kondou did lend interesting insight into why many Western games don't achieve the same magnitude of success in Japan. Referring specifically to Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto series, Kondou noted that these types of games are simply too dark for a Japanese audience. Kondou noted that even in the most violent Japanese games, there is typically always a moment where the two opposite sides stop beating on each other and receive a peaceful resolution. The problem, he said, was the lack of a peaceful resolution or a lightening of the mood. "Someone needs to apologize at the end," he said.

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@thepickle lol i liked the game

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"It's just that the West just don't get what the East wants. However, the East knows what the West wants ... go figure." Not necessarily true, cases can be made against both points. There are many examples of Japanese think-tanks trying to appeal to Western audiences and failing miserably. Honestly, the Japanese view of American culture can be as stereotypical as our view of theirs. No shock, as both countries are rather isolated and xenophobic. Bomberman Act Zero is one such example. In an effort to appeal to the American Xbox 360 audience, they took the Bomberman formula and turned it into a dark, gritty, futuristic world filled with giant robotic killing machines. And really, based on sales, that is what the West wants out of a game a lot of the time. But sometimes they also want cutesy, pastel-coloured fun and goofiness. Just like the Japanese sometimes want dark, gritty, violent games and stories. You can't pigeonhole cultural identity. And people? You guys can stop with the East vs. West arguments now. No one is superior or more perfect than the other. Newsflash: the best selling games in both countries are primarily licenses. For every popular anime series spin-off pinball game, there's a copy of Hannah Montana or Cars coming off the shelf in the US. The true gems are often overlooked sales-wish in both countries and rarely make the leap over the ocean because publishers are afraid to risk it (god bless Atlus).

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I live in Seattle and and was at this event. The whole presentation makes sense and really sets Japan aside in the way they perceive gaming. BTW Pink Godzilla is an amazing store :P

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@ebookerd1 well with the release of the ps1 in the eu gaming started to lose the dork , geek , nerd lol fraze and started to become acceptable to the main stream it's not an issue here as far as i can see now

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Unholy_Smite-- "serious and in depth" does not make a game better in the "matter-of-fact" way in which you state. It's very much down to opinion. Super Mario Bros 3 is still the biggest selling game ever, and that's hardly a game you can put into that category. The more serious a game takes itself, the harder it falls when it fails to pull it off, which, in my opinion is exactly what happened with Oblivion. That game is so damn shallow it's almost unbearable. In fact, I cannot stand the sight of it anymore and people using as it their examples of what makes gaming so great makes me cringe. Just because games sell better in the western market tha they do in the east, doesn't make them better or in any way superior. "west" = USA, Canada, South America and the entirety of Europe and Australia. To combine the sales of all these territories against Japan alone is a completely unfair comparison. It proves absolultely nothing.

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Well i liked the free roam of oblivion and morrowind so never had your problems ipillest as for bludragon i tried the demo and well it left me cold to say the least definatly couldnt recommend that turky to anyone but each to their own i suppose

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Oblivion is probably the most overrated game of the generation. Sure, the first time you step out of that jail and look upon the world, you think it's big and full of possibilities. Wrong. It is barren, lifeless and full of cockamamie. I played Oblivion for a few days. I really tried to like it. But you know you will hate a game from the first few moments you play the game. I returned it and got PGR3 and put the rest towards Blue Dragon. PGR3 > Oblivion.

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Gaming would do much better here if the game stores werent so sleazy and underhanded. Gamestop is the scum of gaming, they cheat us and they cheat game companies with their used game BS and selective stock. I think its time we demand the same amount of respect that gamers receive in Japan. People need to stop selling their used games for 5-10 bucks so Gamestop can go around and sell it for 5 bucks less than retail, then force people to buy used by taking the new games off the shelves after only a few months (Ive seen them sell used games for more than you could buy it new at Best Buy, since they dont carry new games for very long they dont have to obey price cuts)

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@diablobasher why was oblivion a joke ?

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Segata Sanhiro rules that video is great!

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I miss arcades. Don't miss how expensive it got near the end though.

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Different country, different culture and different people it's clear why we dont like the same stuff, but just cuse I dont understand the Japanese gaming i'm not gonna sit here and talk smack about it, so if you love Japanese game show some respect for the gol ol' US of A gaming Industry, sure we have crap like Movie-games but we also have some of the most awesome titles ever made like Halo or Gears of War, as for arcades I do miss them I can't deny that fact.

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Oblivion... Ugh. What a joke.

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Psh, Segata Sanhiro NOTHING! What about Johnny Turbo? XD

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elder scrolls own FF...actually elder scrolls killed FF as more open ended RPGs have taken over and things like FF are a thing of the past! Even with the fact the pander FF to western tastes....Still falling behind games like elder scrolls.

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A bunch of japanese games have no real depth. Compare Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Western Game) to Final Fantasy X (Japanese) LOL! Oblivion wins hands down.

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gunraiden take what hint? The USA is the largest game market in the world...If anything they should follow us. Tehpickle, most western game pwn japanese games easy! The fact ours are more serious and in depth prove that. Wholesome goes away here fast because those games are terrible and have no storyline. In FACT, Final Fanatsy is geared more towards the US market than Japan...Yes people, they care more about the US thasn Japan! And with a growing European market Japan will fall to 3rd by next gen..wait...in sales it already has....Soon Japan will be past tense!

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I miss having a lot of arcades around. I live near Ocean City, NJ, though, so there are a lot of big arcades there. Beating on someone for not playing the Sega Saturn? It was a great console, sure, but that still seems a little harsh. And I still don't know how the Japanese get by without shooters. Shooting stuff (in video games) is fun! RPG's are too boring for me.

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For those that believe the Japanese like to play the same thing over and over again, sequels galore; I have one word: Katamari One of the most original (and in my opinion) and enjoyable games I've played it a long long looooong time. Good, harmless, wholesome fun. Let's be honest, they're hardly the kind of words that can be used to describe a very large majority of western games.

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News flash! Gaming is no fad in america and we have been gaming for over 20 years! In FACT the us is the worlds BIGGEST video game market with 33% of holding a console BEFORE the Wii! This isn't new and we sell more here than in Japan! The PS 1 and 2 sold more here than in Japan! We have more influence on the market trenda than Japan! Got that ebooker? GAMING IS NOT A FAD BUT A 20 YEAR GROWING TREND!

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"Paine opened the session by noting the drastic differences between retail stores in Japan and those in the US. As opposed to the lifeless, stark retail experiences that many Western gamers are familiar with, Paine said that the retail experience in Japan is often as exciting as actually playing the games. The primary reason for this is the massive appeal of retro gaming in Japan. In Den Den Town--a world-renowned shopping district in Osaka, Japan--Paine said that retailers go to great lengths to procure and stock rare and classic games, such as Radiant Silvergun on the Sega Saturn, because it enhances their reputation and helps them in the highly competitive market." "According to Tochen's research, there are more than 24,000 arcades in Japan. A sizable number, he noted, seeing as Japan is roughly the size of California. Further, each of these arcades average 30 games, and they're located in some of the most highly trafficked areas, such as near subway terminals. Subsequently, arcades are nearly always packed with people, with every machine filled and plenty of observers loitering around." TAKE A HINT USA!

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I strongly prefer Japanese games over American games any day. Especially, RPGs...I don't mind random battles or the concepts of Japanese RPGs...The best Japanese Rpgs I have ever played were Xenogears, Xenosaga 1 & III, Chrono Trigger, and FF7 &X...I own Oblivion and I found it to be boring and it lacks the qualities of a core JRPG.

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I am a big Anime Fan and have been since the late 80's. Only about 12 - 15% of the Japanese market get released to the US. Naruto took 2 years before it was released in the US. We are more into Hellsing and Gungrave. Even in these series, plot and purpose are more important than just violence in Japan than in the US. I should know because I am american and we have horrible TV programing. Come on the Ozzbournes, Celebraty fit club, Flavor of Love, and all the B List shows. Come on that is just sad. The only original Programs I have scene is "My Name Is Earl" and "Heroes". There are a few more but they aren't many. Mindless violence is not appealing to the Japanse market. There is room for it but not in great detail. I have never been a Mario fan but that is the kind of game that can appeal to a mass audience with out the contraversial content. Our games are way too violent with all the mutilation and such. but don't get me wrong I own only the most violent game but if the game has no point and is just mindless. I can't play it. I need a point to feel satisfied. Unless I am playing multiplayer team games Like Halo, Gears, Medal of Honor or Other such games, I just feels like a waste of time. I like to think even when I'm playing a game. Maybe that puts me in the 1% of american that do. I can't speak for Europe or Asia and other countries and continiens, but Thnking and an enjoying my self are hand in hand it is why Donkey Kong was a sucess. You just had to think before you react. That is kind of why I stopped playing Gears of War too much people couldn't rap their heads around Team and communication. Sorry for the vent I just had to point this out for the masses!!!

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Arcades Rule. I live in Philadelphia and when I was a kid there were 10 arcades in center city. Now there are zero. That really blows. I don't really like Center City Philadelphia any more because it is way too boring shopping is not a sport or exciting. All the old arcades are now glamor shops. The sucky part is why would a man go shopping if he can't get away from it for atleast 10 minutes. It is just sad. I made so many friends at the arcades. It was the meeting ground for the best of the best. Consoles just don't offer that feal or suspensefulness. Me and my friends used to travel to NY Canal street just to play arcade games. Yes we are just that much of a bunch of lossers. I do understand why the Japanese market is so great. Gaming is a fad in the US where it is an cultural activity. Like football and socker. What is even funnier is The US is the most over weight country in the world and they are one of the most inshape. Some one make sense of that. BRING BACK OUR ARCADES!!!

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I've had the fortune to recently visit Japan twice in the last 10 months, been to Akiarbara and Osaka, and done business with them (i'm 34 years old, an avid gamer and so not as young as many but not over the hill either). One thing that struck home with me is how much of a peaceful society they are compared to our western society (i'm Canadian btw). They have deep respect for life and the environment and i think the majority would feel very uncomfortable playing many of the violent dark games we produce in the west. The Nintendo Wii is an example of what they strive for in life - addictive fun, intelligent thoughtful games and peacefulness. Strangest part for me is that I really respect them for their stance on life and culture yet still crave the violent, gritty games we have available to us in the west - not sure why, and a cannot stand to play the Japanese rpg's.

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""Someone needs to apologize at the end," he said." This also means that Manhunt will never be popular, same with many other FPS from the West in Japan and the East. This may also be the reason why Microsoft isn't doing well in Japan... It's just that the West just don't get what the East wants. However, the East knows what the West wants ... go figure. gnutux

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I miss arcades, or what they used to be. An arcade was a place to go to hang out, and play games you would NEVER see on a console. Now thats gone. Now consoles have better graphics gameplay , everything. Going to a arcade now is just SAD. I used to play Street Fighter at a an arcades at Ridgedale mall in Minnetonka MN, and man there were some great players there. A few guys there actually went to tournys and placed like 2nd and 5th if I recall right, back in the SF2 Trubo days. Got owned by them, but could kinda hang with some great players there. Arcades just arent what they used to be, now its just old games/half a** updated games, games with graphics that are soo last gen, and crap they charge you a 1$ plus for. Feel like an old man saying it, but i just feel ripped off playing the crap they have for that kinda money. Times have changed and its REA:LLY hard to give a mind blowing experience in a 5-10-15min time frame on which arcades work, but I miss the days when Rampage, Double Dragon, Street Fighter, VF, and Mortal Konbat where the sh**!

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another reason why arcades dont flourish is that hey are just to nousy and a mall is supposed to be a tranqual place or so i have heard my arcade where i live had just closed down yesterday because of noise complants and way overcharged fines because of it what malls in the U.S and canada have to realize is that if hey put up with the noise that kids will come to the arcade and spend money and maybe spend money at other stores

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I think aramitz is right. One of the major problems with gaming in the US is the gaming community. We don't respect one another. This is one of the reasons why I don't like playing online; how many times am I going to be called a "n***er?"

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The reason arcades don't work outside of Japan is really simple. Other cultures simply don't have the kind of impeccable manners that the Japanese do! An arcade needs to be a buzzing & happy enviroment to succeed. Not a pit full of bored,under-educated kids who can't afford the overpriced/outdated machines who'll instead decide to smash everybody/everything up instead.

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im sorry i just had to comment on diablobasher 's comment. YOUR AN IDIOT! if you lived outside of America you would realise the entire world seems to dislike america mostly because of that sort of statement.

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I guess games made in each country reflect their own culture with some exception like gta was made in scotland

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Haha, nice article. "Segata beats a few grade school kids with their own baseball bats after they dared to emerge from their living rooms to engage in physical activity." ^that made me lol. "Koushi Kondou" ^sounds like a weird alias for Koji Kondo, and we all know who he is

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This is why most of my favorite games are japanese.They have a style of making good games.Man I wish gaming was like that here in America.

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I'm about to go live in Japan...

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u can only expect violent games from a violent nation. lol

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@Yuck_Too I agree completely. MS bent over backwards to get a Japanese developer to create a game specifically for the Japanese market. It's too bad it didn't sell as well as they'd hope.

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I guess they like to learn a good lesson about life while playing a game sometimes .

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I do think there is a fair bit of cultural bias involved. Look at "Blue Dragon", the Japanese game review sites gave it truly top notch scores (mid 90's for the most part). And it only sold 200k copies. Thing is if that title had released on any other platform in exactly the same fashion it would have cleaned up.

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Japanese games are aren't that good nowadays. Only the franchises that have proven themselfs are great and they are way to many anime, low-budget games out there.

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Okay, this isn't directed at everyone, but I can't understand a damn thing of what most of you people write. Stop using "U" for "you". Start using some punctuation. Take your fingers off the caps button. If you're going to take the time to comment on an article, at least take an extra thirty seconds to make sure what you just wrote actually makes sense. Japan has an awesome culture with a legendary history for gaming. But, as of right now, their games tend to suck. With the occasional exception of a few choice games, the majority of what comes out of Japan now is clunky, cumbersome, and laden with boring, soap opera drama. In the case of the Wii, I know it only costs $250, but for that price, we should still get better quality presentation then what's offered. And the PS3? Not worth the small fortune until companies start producing some decent games for it. From what I've read, it's a total **** to program for anyways. No wonder they lost half of their exclusive titles. Not that I'm completely satisfied with Western developers and consoles either. My 360 has crapped out on me twice now since I've had it. Microsoft created a nice console, but it doesn't matter how nice it is when it doesn't work. It's really kind of pathetic. All in all, I'm most satisfied with my EVGA-based gaming desktop. The PC is the way to go if you know your stuff.

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Yep almost every games shop in Japan has a surprisingly large selection of original NES, Gameboy, SNES, Genisis, Master System and Dream Cast games. I live in a bit of a countryside backwater but my local games shop is about the size of your average DIY store. i.e. massive! I think Japanese and western games have started to move in different directions. Japan seems to take the games are games approach while the west more often views games as being more of an interactive extension of movies. It's a very general statement but for Japan I think games are more like a sport while the west views them more as another mediam like books or movies.

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From Staley6565: "A lot of the things Americans pick up on Anime wise are the dark ones. That's not a blanket statement, but being stationed in Japan, 90% of Anime was a young, upbeat, adventure where more often then not, things turned out great. But yes, there's also the other end of the spectrum." 90% of Anime is a young, upbeat adventure? Dang, I didn't know that! From all the stuff we import here, I would've actually thought that a much higher percentage of anime was actually "dark". I guess it's just what the companies that do import stuff think American audiences like. I never knew that Japan had such a positive and upbeat gaming culture, but it's very interesting news. Personally, I'd -LOVE- to see one of the Grand Theft Auto guys break down crying and apologize profusely at the end of one of the GTA games, make an overdramatic speech about how bad of a person he is, and then change his ways to engage in only legitimate business from then on, and then spend all his money to help fund orphanages and institutions to help the poor and stuff. That would be -hilarious-!

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@The_Weekend: "the culture of gaming there is a textbook of how gaming should be all around the world!" To each his/her own. Frankly, I'm not a big fan of Japanese games, but I respect your opinion, as you should of others.

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I think japan is an awesome place. But i don't like they're style of gaming, or most games that come out of East Asia. I just find them boring and/or too weird. Thats why i never really like the PS series. Then again, i pretty much stick to my Military shooters anyway.

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I don't think they like being called 'Japs.'

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