More Powerful PS4 Neo and Slim Model Are Coming Sooner Than You Think, Analyst Says

@Abdulrahman1981Explain the part about having to buy a UHD TV to play Neo. What is this strange rationale? If you're looking at a 4KTV, it's probably to run UHD media and UHD Blu-rays, plus streaming 4K.

Yes, a Neo will let you do those things.

But if you're a gamer, you can safely remove the "must own a 4KTV for Neo" angle and replace it with "now I'll play games in far superior image quality and frame rates at 1080p":

But yes, you're right: You don't need to buy a Neo, you don't need to buy a 4KTV, you don't need to do any of those things if you want to continue to play every available PS4 release on your current TV going forward. Nobody is depriving you of any games whatsoever.

It's just a decision to make, whether you feel you'd like to play PS4 games buffed up through enhanced hardware capabilities or not, and whether you plan to become a 4K media adopter and UHD TV owner.

@joshrmeyer: I will also be surprised if they make the PS4 smaller. The only motivation would be to change the design to make it cheaper, but it is difficult to see how it can be much smaller.

@joshrmeyer: Yes someone is on somewhat of the same understanding as me.

SO AGAIN. MY 2 CENTS. Sony will have the NEO or replacement out this year November. Reasons.

1. PS4 Neo will be a Visual upgrade for PSVR which may be needed for some people who are sensitive and may not do . . . . . . well with the PS4 visuals as is.

. . . .2. Since the upgrade will be easy and add only to visuals all games would be able to be upgraded and help those people . . . . . who care about graphics pick up a PS4 Neo

HOW this will happen. SIMPLE the revision like XBOX S. is able because of shrinkage of the parts and less heat generated. Instead of shrinking as the PS4 is slim already, the smaller componets can get higher clock speed. For little money say $50 - $100.00 a big leap in power could be made. The decrease in price that would have taken place would now go to the upgrade.

So PS4 Neo would just replace the PS4 for the same price $350.00 but run all games (if developer adds the ability) 1080P with HDR, Higher fidelity, and introduce Dynamic Scaling so future games can easily go between the specs of the PS4 Neo and PS4.

@joshrmeyer: quote "It would make no sense to release both this year."

And what makes you think everything HAS to make sense? Did it make sense at all to reveal and release Scorpio and Neo within the kind of time frame they're coming? Not the slightest.

@bobafetthatesu: Why do they have to launch a PS5 at all, EVER? When you launch consoles every 5-7 years you are basically saying "we'd like to stagnate the industry for 5-7 years"... This used to be fine, but in an era where a new smartphone will begin to rival your "only a few years old" console, 5-7 years is no longer viable.

If Sony and MS do incremental updates every 2 years or so instead, there will never be a big enough gap from one device to another to qualify as being next gen in any meaningful or revolutionary sense of the term. That's actually a good thing. Have some sort of deal with the devs that consoles games will support lets say the 2 or 3 most recent generations of some given console, basically much like how phones already work and nobody has a problem with that...

If you want to stay on the "cutting edge" of console technology you could just buy the next iteration every 2 years or so. If you weren't a graphics whore or whatever, you could simply updated every 4-6 years...

@bobafetthatesu: I don't think so, Newer chips from AMD look good but not a great change. BY 2019 or 2020 AMD Road map looks a lot better HMB3, APU and GNC will be more mature also 10 NM will be more mauter and cheaper by then. VR will be better and need time to mature also.

I see if Sony's base is above 100 Million by then they may launch a more expensive PS5 that is backward compatible for say $600.00 and wait as a slow switch to PS5 goes. If the base is still lower than 100 million then they may launch earlier with a less expensive console.

There is still a huge number of people who still play last gen consoles, the reason is that there is not much difference in games. Yes the new coat of paint makes them look better but not by leaps and bounds. VR may change that but by how much? If Neo enables games to run at 1080P 60fps then it will last a while. The hardcore gamer who wants a Nvidia 1080 because they want the best graphics are few, and do not effect the game industry much, though they complain a lot.

@bobafetthatesu: That's probably exactly what will happen. I have no problem with it. The neo isn't forced and the ps5 will have exclusives (most likely). As long as they keep the price in the $400 range, I'm ok with that.

@ramtracker42: I was hoping this also but at the same time am desperate for either of these consoles to get any sort of upgrade immediately. Even though the PS4 is clearly superior to the Xbox One when viewed on larger 1080p displays it still needs a few more horsepower. I'm definitely looking forward to Project Scorpio if indeed it isn't another one of Microsoft's con games.

@lunchbox2042: worst ever slower than the Xone cheap decision it affects Dl speeds and mp issues ??

@uncagedpaul_86: Don't count on it. Both consoles may render is random resolutions but will internally scale for a standard NTSC output that all displays will read, ie, 1080p or 2160p. Unless it's a display standard found on all TV's the console will not output that. Your monitor will likely get a 1080p video feed because the next industry standard display resolution up from that is 2160p and your monitor will not recognize it. being that it's ultra-wide it will likely have bars on the sides.

@Bread_or_Decide: The slim consoles are made because they are cheaper to manufacture and therefor allow either increased sales margins, or decreased sale price for unchanged sales margins, etc. It has basically nothing to do with actually slimming down a device...

@Bread_or_Decide: x86 parts shrink every year. They could easily shrink and fit the PS4's chipset in a Wii-shaped case now.

@neowarrior793: I hear that. For me to replace my current tv with the same size set that supports 4k would cost a small fortune, I'm certainly interested in 4k and VR but it's way to earmy on for me to accept such an expensive upgrade for a console, as you said, this may be the window for me to head back towards pc gaming.

@hardeddie: Can I please have some money?

@hardeddie: My PS4 and my PC are hooked up to my 365 inch 8K Imax Private Home Theatre screen. That OLED you have sounds pretty sweet though.

@Cikatriz_ESP: Its not like they have only just announced the Neo .. been a rumour and all but confirmed for quite some time now !! I've had my PS4 from Day one and already got a couple of 4K's .. Can't wait !!

@Cikatriz_ESP:

1st: I think it's best for a company not to give information too much in advance before releasing an updated console. If I were in the market for an XB1, I'd sure wait until the XB1 S is out.

2nd: As a consumer, I think you can only keep a healthy mind if you really agree on what you are buying, when you are buying it, and how much it's worth to you. If you accomplish this, and the product goes on sale the day after, you should've no regrets and continue enjoying the product.

@Cikatriz_ESP: I've had my PS4 since day 1 and love it, but an upgrade after 3 years sounds good to me. 55 inch 4K HDR TV and New Powerful PlayStation I can't wait.

@Redsyrup: Could be the case... but I doubt it.