Microsoft clarifies Xbox One used game stance

@TheAgingGamer @kazama99 From what I understand Steam is implementing a system to allow users to sell their games to other users. What I believe they will do to battle this is make new game prices so low, that selling a game isn't really appealing. Honestly, if the video game market lowered their prices, I'm willing to bet this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Or if they allowed game returns again, especially when a title truly sucks (two worlds, I'm talking to you).

@kazama99 @TheAgingGamer Exactly..corporate greed plain and simple. The EU requires software companies to allow the transfer of software licenses, which is even impacting digital second-hand sales through Steam. If game companies continue to thrust these practices on us I hope there will be a large enough movement to get similar protections here in the US. In the meantime, I will continue to purchase physical copies of software for platforms that do not block used games, rather than making digital purchases through things like Games on Demand for the 360, etc.

@TheAgingGamer @kazama99 Well I won't support this at all. So I will not buy systems and publishers that endorse this. This is destroying the gaming console world. I have been a gamer for over 25 years and remember the original nintendo system as a child being awesome. There isn't any reason why they should start attacking used game sales now other than greed using new age tech. The companies like Nintendo and even Sony's first Playstation did not "die" from used game sales.

@TheAgingGamer @deathblow3 @kazama99 @hackerrei There is many people arguing about this. I agree with you TheAgingGamer about used games. I was just point out that Used games are also lower in price because there is wear on the disc that makes its value diminish. A disc has to be handled almost perfectly to be without some wear over time. Not going to happen with the coomon folk

@deathblow3 @kazama99 @hackerrei @TheAgingGamer The natural wearing out of a product is not justification for removing the used market, and even if it was, optical discs wear out over time just like the cartridges of old. If taken care of properly, a used vehicle can last for decades just like a used video game. Also, the games market lives on only because of the creation of new games..I'm not sure what you're getting at. It's not like the game companies only sell the same game for years. They create new IPs, sequels to existing IPs, etc. Your argument doesn't really hold up. I realize that the game companies don't make money off of used sales, but it's time for them to stop bitching about it and just embrace the fact that if they want to be part of this market they're going to have to make compromises in order to keep their customers happy.

@deathblow3 @kazama99 @hackerrei @TheAgingGamer the condition of a game disc and even the console does change tho

@deathblow3 @kazama99 @hackerrei @TheAgingGamer and apparently modern games' version of a warranty is tacked on multiplayer and dlcs.

@kazama99 @hackerrei @TheAgingGamer sony sure as hell does but they dont want to shoot themselves in the foot with stupidity. and as far as cars go its a big difference as car get worse with age so there is always a new car market that doesnt happen with video games they dont change. also the turn around on used cars is 3 to 5 years way after the auto maker has moved on to something new. cars also combat used sales with warrenties.

@kazama99 @TheAgingGamer @hackerrei This seems appropriate: http://qkme.me/3uioe4

@TheAgingGamer @hackerrei @kazama99 Yep, you do OWN the game and disc. But you have no right to such things as copyright infringment and stuff like that.

@hackerrei @TheAgingGamer Its exploiting new tech so that they can finally cash in. But yet Nintendo and Sony don't seem to think its a big enough deal that they would go bankrupt and go out of business because of used games... Its all greed

@hackerrei @TheAgingGamer @kazama99 I know what the license agreement says, but I would argue that you have, like the software companies using it as their crutch, misinterpreted its meaning. Just as you said, you do not own the content on the disc, but what that means is that you have no right to take the content from the disc and redistribute it. However, I would argue that as you do own the physical disc, you should be allowed to do with it whatever you please; destroy it, sell it, turn it into a coaster, etc. The problem is with the legislation regarding the rights of consumers where software is concerned. Just imagine how outraged consumers would be if when they purchased their car they had to sign something that says "You do not own this vehicle, you are paying for the right to drive it. You may not transfer ownership of this vehicle and if the car detects any unauthorized drivers it will disable itself and require the driver to pay to have the car work again." Yeah..sounds ridiculous doesn't it? Well so is their stance on used games.

@hackerrei @TheAgingGamer @kazama99 LOL this isn't some new craze thats sweeping the nation within the last few years people. Used games and all that has been around for as long as consoles have been around. So before we start acting like used games are so horrible and all that, remember this is old news. So then why didn't they stop used games back then.

@TheAgingGamer @hackerrei @kazama99 If you read the books that comes with your games you are not buying the game it's self but the right to play the content other then that you have no rights to copy/change/ or redistribute the content on the disk but the disk it's self is yours so it would be fare to the company that made the content if they get a little of the money from it resale. Think napster and the music industry how they got sued for giving out some one else's content.

@kazama99 @jonjonjonjonjj @grbolivar @kyuubi_clone yeah so did i at target for like 9.99

@jonjonjonjonjj And yesterday I got Dead Space Bundle (2 games) for $12 on Steam, they cost $20 each in other stores so yes, Steam rocks.

@jonjonjonjonjj @grbolivar @kazama99 @kyuubi_clone well I recently just bought the Star Wars franchise bundle for 29.99 and got 6 or 7 games that were classics, so to me, steam rocks.

@grbolivar@kazama99@kyuubi_clonesteam doesn't reward you. valve is not paying out of their pocket. publishers have sales not steam. its a business decision that they think will make them more money in the end. not a reward. what do you get a tf2 hat when you pre order. amazing! pre order a digital download now thats funny.

steam sucks its bloated trash. i go out of my way to not buy games on steam. i wish i could buy games straight from the dev's so they got all my money.

@grbolivar @kazama99 @kyuubi_clone I wonder if Microsoft can ban your console (account) and so you have to buy a new console so you aren't banned anymore... LMAO