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GTAV unlikely until 2012 - Analyst

Janco Partners' Mike Hickey bullish on Take-Two, believes next installment in series could sell 16 million copies, generate $750 million.

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Take-Two recently announced it was shifting its fiscal year to end on March 31 in order to better put it in line with other major game publishers. Today, Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey issued an analyst note, which laid out some predictions for the New York-based publisher. Namely, that it will remain profitable even if the next Grand Theft Auto doesn't come out during its next fiscal year.

Don't expect the next GTA until 2012…at the earliest.
Don't expect the next GTA until 2012…at the earliest.

Hickey believes that Take-Two's 2011 fiscal year, which runs from April 1, 2011, until March 31, 2012, will feature two major game highlights: Max Payne 3 and L.A. Noire. He thinks those two games will lead a software lineup--which may also include the long-delayed Duke Nukem Forever--that can make the company profitable in a year without a GTA or a Red Dead game.

When GTAV does come out, "likely" in Take-Two's fiscal 2013 (April 2012-March 2013), Hickey believes it will be yet another blockbuster, selling upward of 16 million copies and generating over $750 million by itself. He predicts that year will also see the release of BioShock Infinite, which he estimates will sell over 4 million copies and $182 million in sales.

One major reason for the high sales expectations is the increased combined PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 installed based in the US, which he believes will be 41 million units by the end of calendar year 2010. That compares to just 14 million in April 2008, when Grand Theft Auto IV originally came out.

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i like how they guess all this info...

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I'm nonestly not too sure I care about that, GTA4 was the worst GTA I played. o_o Too realistic/serious for me, and the driving...oh, God, the driving.

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I want the game to be bigger than a simple city, maybe a whole country .. I don;t care if the size of the game was something like 25+ gigs .. I just want a bigger world in the GTA series..

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GTA 4's story wasnt much of a story other than go here, kill that guy, go there, kill him. go over there kill all of them.. most of it was all killing. there wasn't much uniqueness to much of the missions. i know GTA has a history of killing in every mission. but most of GTA 4's missions were just pure killing. nothing special about it. i liked it GTASA where it had sneak mode and u can sneak in the mansion silently and kill them with a knife. also swim under water to get to a ship silently.. or even rob houses. GTA 4 didnt have much content other than awesome graphics and huge detailed city, and multiplayer, the story sucked in my opinion. not much to do other than kill, kill, kill.. it got boring towards the end, and i just wanted it to end already so i can see how it ended.. But i still liked GTA4 online what made it worth it in the end.

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@Slim-Jim2011 I have to disagree. I liked Niko's story. Niko's story was very interesting. The best part of Niko's story was the succesful part of Niko's life during Niko's story. I didn't mind not having parachutes for Niko in Niko's story. I also did not mind the selection of weapons in Niko's story. Niko's story was very enjoyable and Niko's story was really immersive. San Andreas free roam does beat Niko's story but Niko's story is still very good.

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I liked GTA 4 (only have Niko's story of it) when it came out for PS3 and honstly GTA 4 (Niko's story) wasn't that great cuz ya had to get a DLC's or the episodes of librity city to get more weapons cars/bike/heli's I enjoy the stories from the past GTA's cuz they are extremely great, but on Niko's story of GTA 4 pissed me off cuz of no parachute when ya jumped outta the heli's and only 2 slections of weapons (example ak-47 and m16) i enjoyed GTA 4 (Niko' story) but I think San Andreas beats GTA 4 in the free-roam

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@lizzardman666 The story is a matter of opinion so if that's what you think of it, that's ok but I disagree. GTA4 doesn't have taxi missions (except in the first quarter of the game or so I've heard), no ambulance or firefighter missions, no planes to fly, no countryside, no bike races, no triathlon, the customization options are awful (can't even choose the color of your car in GTA4), can't modify your car in any way and I could go on but I'll stop.

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@Heshertonfist You're wrong. The only thing SA had that IV didn't was more equipalbe stuff. Aside from that, the story was boring, the overall theme was dull and the whole stats system was a failure.

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@Nocturnal15 "SA was riddled with bugs and gamebreaking glitches" I've played SA since the day it came out and I've played it on all the systems its been released on and I've never once seen a "gamebreaking glitch". "GTA isn't just about killing and customization. GTA IV had an amazing story filled with a variety of emotion." SA had numerous things to do that had nothing to do with killing. GTA4 has what? Subpar comedy performances from dull comedians and watching tv or surfing the internet. Neither of which are fun to do in a video game. SA had a far better story with much better actors and whoever casted the actors for their roles should be given an award. "San Andreas was a terrible game. " San Andreas > GTA 4. Facts are facts.

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In the next one, they NEED to add flyable aircraft AND a Harley-Davidson Ultra Classic touring bike, like in GTA San Andreas.

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they must change game engine....its getting boring since gta san andreas.

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How about a GTA-4 Un-Dead nightmare in the meantime, Liberty city filled with zombie gangsters, zombie thugs, zombie mobsters, zombie hookers, zombie strippers, zombie cops etc, would be awesome.

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@Nocturnal15 San Andreas was a brilliant game, and still remains to surpass the quality of GTA IV. I'm not saying GTA IV is a bad game or anything, but SA easily beats it. Gameplay comes before story all the time. Thats why they're called video games. It's strange how you experience all these bugs which no one ever did. If anything, there were some visual quirks present, but none that prevented the game from being playable. Just cause it took place in 3 US areas doesn't mean its not gonna feature other cities. If you're a GTA fan and not some next-generation graphic-lovin' fanboy, you'd know that one of the earliest GTA games featured London. And there really isn't much of a story in GTA IV. I think an illegal immigrant arriving to LC to be enlightened by the 'American Dream' is just as bland as an individual who is trying to leave his past and restart in a state where its hard to climb the ladder. Competitive multiplayer is one of the highlights of the game, although I hope there were more online modes than the standard TDMs or races. Customization is a great addition because it's better being 'connected' to the main character than the other characters you meet. I'm not trying to insult you or anything dude, but the fact that you said, and I quote, 'San Andreas was a terrible game', deeply offended me seeing as you're comparing a marvel of a game which released 6 years back on a far less powerful console. If anything, San Andreas was what made the fans demand for a GTA IV.

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I hope they integrate the dialog & companion system from Fallout. GTA + new gameplay = Next-Gen!

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Hey, Europeans! Grand Theft Auto is a series that revolves around Liberty City (NYC), Vice City (Miami/Florida), and San Andreas (LA/California). This game isn't going anywhere else in the world. HEY, San Andreas whiners! GTA isn't just about killing and customization. GTA IV had an amazing story filled with a variety of emotion. You actually connected with all the major and minor characters you came across. San Andreas was a terrible game. Sure, it had plenty to do, but the story was a failure and it seems as if Rockstar ignored the gametesting phase. SA was riddled with bugs and gamebreaking glitches. I say take all the time in the world to make GTA V Vice City. Add more activities and customizations, REMOVE COMPETITIVE MULTIPLAYER, use the extra resources from a removed competitve mode to spruce up co-op and singleplayer.

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how about american guy travel to europe and deal with some nazis in germany, smoking grass in amsterdam, red light street in paris, russian mafia in london... fly over cities

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I want to be an Analyst. You get paid to state the obvious.

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I'm sure it will be well worth the wait.

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Hopefully it's not that far off! I wanna play a new GTA now!!! :D But yeah, it does seem unlikely for it to come out next year, with L.A. Noire coming out and all... :( L.A. Noire had better be as awesome as it looks!

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You made GTA 4 a fairly small map lets be honest,how would a red dead sized map be? 2 countries? Im all for UK and France... :P

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They need a serious GTA 4 style game with the fun of san andreas.Like GTA 4 physics with the customizabilty planes player building(strength stamina gun level etc) of SA that would be perfect...

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I'd like to see "San Andreas Stories" on the PSP 2 with online multiplayer. That would be awesome.

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I just hope they announce SOMETHING about the next GTA soon...

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Hope it's a new environment this time =)Paris would be nice !

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would'nt mind a new gta in a completly new city we have never seen befor would like to see a imitatated city like london or tokyo like @Aekom mentioned but i would'nt mind giving san andreas or vice city another visit tbh

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This is what I expected tbh

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At random I selected these countries that I'd like a GTA to be based in, you know for some variety; Ukraine, Australia or a Poland type of city. Instead of playing in America YET AGAIN! Not that there's anything wrong with America but there's only so many American cliche characters that Rockstar can stick in their series of games before it just gets kind of tired. Let's go to Australia and laugh at a character that drinks fosters all the time and shouts: "Argh crikey mite" seven hundred times a day and has a rattlesnake permanently attached to his diggeree-doo-har. (Please Note: I'm not trying to insult anybody, as I realize that cliche characters arn't real and probably aren't even close to the real thing, but as a cliche they are really funny regardless.)

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dont always make a remake or remodel is what im tryna say!~

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when looking at games I thought about making a classic into a modern classic but it always dosent work so wat u do is make a classic by making a classic with a different story!

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we need another SA doesn't have to be with cj but has to have the same custom stuff like modding cars, talking to ppl, the interaction and the side missions where just amazing...imagine if SA was made when IV came out it would of been AMAZING!!

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I'm sure AGENT will be worth the wait. And anyway the GTA franchise is getting kinda stale. There is only so many cars you can jack, prostitutes to run over before the whole formula becomes ... well kinda formulaic. What was so innovatively different in GTA IV that we didn't already do in San Andreas or even the GTA 3? It seemed like almost every mission would send you across town to kill somebody. So here is hoping that Agent franchise will be a better outlet for Rockstar's creativity.

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I think this is going to be a long w8 just like GT5, don't forget that gt5 sucks :(

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Anybody else getting kinda bored with the American cities in GTA? One of these three cities would be awesome: Moscow, London or Tokyo, since the Yakuza are based in Japan, the Solntsevskaya Bratva are based in Russia (world's largest organised crime group) and the geezers from any of Guy Ritchie's movies, take your pick.

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Can all yall chill out with San Andreas! You know GTA V = Vice City!!!!!!!!

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I want something like SA but in a new location...

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gta4 would have been absolutely perfect if it had mission checkpoints; that would have minimized the frustration lvl of replaying missions from the very beginning. Also, the bulk of the missions were repetitive. More creative and interesting ideas would have been ideal, like when Niko has to hang on for dear life on top of the truck.

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Rockstar Are you listening? Bring back San Andreas'esq for GTA 5

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Why Make a 5 when its more likey theyll make GTA4(insert fictional city here) like they did with the gta3 family. Theyll use the same basic engine,probably add more annoying social calls and keep going in the "realistic direction" as opposed to the crazy actually fun style of past games.

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I think GTA V will be available for the next generation consoles. Look at the diffrence betwen GTA : SA and GTA IV, the graphics the gameplay huge diffrence. If they release GTA V on this consoles they can't make a huge diffrence in the graphics department. Oh and i wan't to be able to slap people :)) that's really funny .

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Remake San Andreas with current gen graphics, physics engines and sound effects.

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it should be bigger maps to im tired of the small places like new york or Los angelous How about a whole state or something

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would really like to play in San Andreas Again.. next Gen San Andreas had lot of things i loved It had * Bikes * cop Motorcycles *Jet Packs *Army Jet *driving/flying/boating/biking schools, which help players learn skills and techniques to use in their corresponding vehicles. *It had a Gym, to get some muscles, The balance of food and physical activity has an effect on his appearance and physical attributes. *Burglary, you were able to sneak into a residence at night, and cart off valuables or shake down the occupants. *Inside Games : basketball, pool, rhythm-based challenges (dancing and 'bouncing' lowriders with hydraulics) Imagine to have the Blacktop minigame From 2k11 in the new gta, play some street basketball. * I also Just loved that you could drive from the city to the countryside.

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Add the San Adreas craziness and a new location we haven't seen yet! Add jungles or something. I've gotten board of endless deserts... add snow too. Snow is good.

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I agree make it just like San Andreas with all the RPG elements and the skills you have to build up. Except of course change the main charater, weapons, graphics, driving feeel, all that. It should be a success.

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Feels like GTA IV came out 20 years ago.

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