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EA clarifies recent offline games comment

Peter Moore confirms that not every EA game will require an online connection, says free-to-play not coming to every EA franchise.

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In a blog post today, Electronic Arts COO Peter Moore clarified comments he made at Gamescom recently about moving away from offline games.

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Moore said it is a fact that EA no longer makes "offline" games, but clarified that not every game EA ships will require an Internet connection.

"Many, if not most, of our games include single-player, offline modes that you can play entirely without an Internet connection, if you so choose," Moore said. "We know that’s something many of our players want, and we will continue to deliver it."

Maxis' upcoming The Sims 4 will not require an Internet connection.

Moore also addressed "confusion" regarding EA's plans for free-to-play games going forward. At Gamescom, he suggested that every major EA franchise will have a free-to-play option. Today, he said this is not the case, though the company is evaluating options for the future.

"I also see confusion about our plans for free-to-play games. Many of our most popular franchises for PCs and mobile--including Battlefield, Need for Speed, FIFA, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Plants vs. Zombies, and now Madden NFL, to name a few--already offer free-to-play experiences. Command & Conquer is another exciting new free-to-play game coming online later this year," Moore said. "However, not all of EA's games will offer a free-to-play mode."

"We will continue to explore new free-to-play experiences for our franchises when we believe there is gamer interest and a cool new game we can build," he added. "But of course, we will continue to deliver award-winning core gaming experiences on all of these franchises."

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I think they could've meant that completely offline is not being done anymore, that multiplayer/co-op modes will be in all of them with the option to try some.

Crysis 3 had an open multiplayer beta which I never used personally, this is how I read it anyway.

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"we don't deliver offline experiences any more."

"Many, if not most, of our games include single-player, offline modes that you can play entirely without an Internet connection,"

It took them, what, a day to reverse their decision?

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Peter Moore says as many stupidities as Peter Griffin, except the later is funny.

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Long story short: "Forget what I said, I was kinda drunk and chose my words poorly."

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@Anigmar Or simply people interpreting it in a way to give them more reasons to hate EA.

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@Hurvl @Anigmar If you pay close attention to his both statements as well as some hints from their game producers/developers it's not that simple. For instance, The Sims 4 won't require online BUT if you interact through the game with other players you unlock more stuff. They tried the same with SimPort (a feature in one of Sims 3 expansions) and it went poorly to say the least. You can play without it but you'll miss single player content, isn't that wrong?

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@Anigmar

I see what you mean. However, it was still something that could be attained with SP alone. No need for MP.

Yeah, they lied, which is typical of EA, but you weren't forced online for MP to unlock SP content, as mentioned earlier.

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@Scorpion1813 @Anigmar The ending you get depends on a score you increment during single player by completing missions, getting troops... and they said MP had nothing to do and you could get all endings just with that. A lie, cause the SP score was affected by the MP score. Basicly: Final score= SP / MP. Total BS.

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@Anigmar

Actually, no. I don't follw Mass Effect and haven't played it. I'm not a big sci-fi fan.

What part of MP was required?

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@Scorpion1813 @Anigmar @Hurvl Do you remember when they said you didn't have to play ME3 multi? This will be similar. 8(

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@Anigmar @Hurvl

Having to play multiplayer to unlock singleplayer content is disgusting! And vice-versa.

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I figured it'd be something like this, but you can never be sure. Often companies talk about something as if it's the best thing ever and, obviously, you then need to implement it in every goddamn game or you'll be left out and regretting not doing so for the rest of your life.

Having every EA franchise become free-to-play sounded like overkill, so I'm glad they're not doing that. Where's the "free" part in free-to-play, if you're not free to play something that isn't free-to-play?

It also sounded as if this change wouldn't take immediate effect and so I imagined/hoped that Dragon Age: Inquisition wouldn't be defiled by this business direction. Time will tell if this will lead to any seriously negative effects.

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So can I consider this a 180? I guess so

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@Nightdragonist That depends entirely on how you interpreted his original statements. I never saw it as an abandonment of offline singleplayer or requiring that every part (SP/MP) of every game to need an internet connection. A lot of EA haters/pessimists did so, though.

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@Hurvl @Nightdragonist

Please explain to us how this statement could be mistook for anything other than what it is:

"we don't deliver offline experiences any more."

I'm honestly confused how anyone reading that could think they still offer offline in any capacity. That statement right there means their games will be like SimCity and Diablo 3 - online no matter what.

If this wasn't to be the case then EA should have stated it as such. It's not the audience that was confused, it was EA making false statements (or they chickened out when seeing all the negative feedback and did a Microsoft).

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@Oofoor

That is a fair enough assessment of it I guess. But I still wouldn't blame the reader for making the mistake. I'd still say it was EA's poor choice of words, mixed with Gamespot's spin on the matter.

Can the reader really be blamed for taking a comment like this at face value: "we no longer offer offline experiences". Especially after th fiasco that was SimCity. People don't trust EA, and they have good reason not to.

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@Scorpion1813 @Hurvl @Nightdragonist Did you watch the interview that the article came from? To me it never felt like he was saying every game will force you online just like Sim City did.

Many websites take a small snippet from an interview or article and focus it. There was a yahoo news story yesterday that said "China calls the movie Pacific Rim to be U.S. propaganda." When in truth it was 1 man in a military position in China.

People in the comments were jumping down the whole countries throat. Much like people here jump on EA. Even when an article clearly does not show the truth. As was the case with EA's p.r. darling Peter Moore.

Him and Frank Gibeau both just spew silliness.

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@Scorpion1813 @Hurvl @Nightdragonist It was poorly phrased, but I interpreted it as saying "we don't make games without a multiplayer or community element". Not as damning as what most people thought.

That said, if it leads to crap like ME3, it's just as much a shitty thing to say.

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i wonder how call of duty will beat this.

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Meh who cares, World War 3 is about to start in a few days.

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I honestly don't have any desire whatsoever to buy (or illegally download) these big budget, AAA games from publishers like EA, Ubisoft etc. For the past couple of days, games like Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Lost Planet 3 and Saints Row IV have been out, yet none of them piqued my interest. They all look like "been there, done that several times, already" experience. Stale, carbon copy iterations of things that felt fresh several years back.


I seem to be happy playing games from smaller studios like Europa Universalis IV, Crusader Kings 2 (yeah, it still occupies my time hours on end), Shadowrun Returns and other indie titles. They pull me into their worlds, unlike those money sucking black holes above. Something needs to radically change in the way big studios see us gamers. But to be honest, I don't see it happening.

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@dark_sith_ I've also abandoned modern AAA titles, more or less. I've not played many indie games, though. Rather, I got a bunch of games for older consoles (PS1, PS2, GameCube, N64, SNES etc.) that I missed out on when I was younger. And let me tell you, I'm having a hell of a lot more fun playing games like Parasite Eve, 40 Winks, Grand Theft Auto III, Ico, The Legend of Zelda: Twiligt Princess, Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, GoldenEye 007 and F-Zero than I ever did any recent games. I'll check out some of the indie titles every now and then, but until all of this blows over, I'm perfectly happy with playing the big titles of the past.

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"Free to Play" What a piss-take title.

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Jesus Christ. Watching EA and Microsoft try and put together a coherent vision of the future is as embarrassingly painful and ultimately pointless as watching a fat person trying not to take the last slice of pizza.

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Say so BS then redact it, give it a few months and this idiot will say it again, its not the first time and its not the last time. Months ago they laid out their belief that games of the future should be like shopping buying the bits of the game you want. Just makes me happy to be boycotting them.

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OH BTW,i think this defines Peter Moore....Peter comes from Peter...its ok...now what about Moore...Mo-st W-or-s-e(Moore)...so its Moore...back in ur hole EA...

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@Warfighter_971 What about Peter Mo(f)ore

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Translation of the statement:EA just figured out they want more money & want to give everyone the utmost pain & confusion as they(EA) think they're the GOD of games....

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whatever they said didnt change anything from their previous statement. they basically said everything has mp...no online drm

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But seriously EA, this is why I hate you.......and I love you!

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How the hell asked EA to make the Dragon Age series Free to Play ??????

Seriously I really want to meet them.

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@firehawk998 You're jumping to conclusions, letting your fear/hate get the better of you. The first statement left it unclear what he really meant, this clarification actually clarifies it somewhat, but we still dont know the consequences of this. It's stupid to claim that any particular franchise wil suffer this or that, before it's official.

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@Hurvl @firehawk998 I think the consequences are fairly clear after looking at relatively recent releases. Mass Effect 3 and SimCity are particularly bad, as they were single player games before.

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Dang EA was way off, APRIL is like 8 months away!

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Is that person even in touch with his own company ?
I'm a bit afraid he doesn't even know what products (oh excuse me, "services") they're offering / selling.

He's constantly putting out nonsense statements only to correct them shortly after, so basically he should better not have contact to social media (or media in general).

Then again, perhaps he's just testing out the waters to see how far he can go.
- Stupid statement + gamer resistance = rephrase statement.
- Stupid statement + less resistance = go ahead.
- Repeat

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do game companies have a clue of what are they doing anymore?...

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Phew, EA almost became douchbags. Good thing they clarified what they said. Now all they need to do is disband Bioware and they'll be a great company!

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@RC-Sev They're already douchebags in many people's eyes and can only become worse. A lot of people here took the previous statement as more justification to call EA every bad name (un)imaginable. With this clarification the haters make it sound as if EA did a 180, afraid of the public's reaction and deciding to lay low with their *true* plans of gaming dystopia ("one day they'll try their evil scheme again, mark my hating words" the haters say).

Some people here are like gossip magazines, they'll twist every thing said or done by EA, jumping to conclusions and putting words in their mouth. I say, let's see what this results in before bringing out the pitchforks and forming mobs.

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@Hurvl @RC-Sev Not everyone is just blindly hating EA without good reason, though. They have had a good decade now to lower their reputation, and they sure did.

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@Hurvl @toshineon @RC-Sev Alright, point well made.

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@toshineon @Hurvl @RC-Sev I'm not saying EA is good in any way, I'm just saying that they get bashed no matter what they say. This clarification tells us that things aren't bad as some people thought, which is good, although things could be significantly better.

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which explains why they jumped on the Xbox1 console for the Exclusive games, as they want an environment you have to be online with.

Too bad for EA that Microsoft did a 180, so now they need to come out and be the bad guys instead

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The 180s are so trendy as of late!

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@Blade_Runner22 lol

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Microsoft taught them everything about doing 180s

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I can swear that game publishers throw out their brainstorming ideas to game journalists to see what the public reaction is before the actual policies are implemented. At least some that use that type of strategy listen to feedback, but I think EA is the type of company that pushes forward with ideas regardless of the backlash that might be conjured up.

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@ZOD777 Yep, I get the same feeling.

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@ZOD777 Agreed. I think they force about change to consumers because most of their consumers are uneducated.

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