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Analysts augur 10-14% August sales slide

Madden launch not expected to prevent sixth straight month of slumping software sales; Pachter predicts Wii price cut by November, industry-watchers split on impact of PS3 price drop.

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On Thursday, the NPD Group is set to release its US retail sales figures for August, and analysts are expecting the results to cap off a full half-year of declines for the gaming industry. A quartet of analysts have released investor notes with expectations for the NPD numbers, agreeing that software sales for the month will be down by double-digit percentages.

Despite the price cut and the introduction of the PS3 Slim, some analysts believe sales of Sony's system still fell year-over-year.
Despite the price cut and the introduction of the PS3 Slim, some analysts believe sales of Sony's system still fell year-over-year.

Janco Partners' Mike Hickey was the most optimistic of the analysts, expecting a decline of just over 10 percent for the month. Pacific Crest Securities' Evan Wilson came in at the lower end of expectations, projecting software sales slumping 16 percent year-over-year. Wedbush Morgan Securities' Michael Pachter and Electronic Entertainment Design and Research's Jesse Divnich each weighed in with predictions of game sales down 14 percent from August of 2008.

Much of the August total rests on the performance of Electronic Arts' Madden NFL 10, which was not expected to live up to last year's sales figures. Wilson projected 2.1 million copies sold across all platforms, down from Madden NFL 09's August tally of 2.3 million. Pachter was more conservative, expecting the game to muster sales of just 1.95 million, while Divnich's prediction was roughly in line with Wilson's. As for why the football sim would be down year-over-year, Divnich pointed to the absence of a DS version, special editions, and a PSP hardware bundle, all of which were present for last year's Madden.

With Madden atop the charts, other expected best-sellers include Batman: Arkham Asylum (see below), with Divnich putting Dissidia: Final Fantasy in his top 10 and Pachter name-dropping G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra and Wolfenstein as significant contributors for the month. Divnich called out Batman specifically, saying the PlayStation 3-exclusive Joker content should shift the usual sales ratio of multiplatform games. Where Divnich said the Xbox 360 edition of a game typically comes close to doubling the sales of its PS3 counterpart, he expects the Xbox 360 version of Batman to hold a much slimmer 52 percent to 48 percent sales advantage.

The PS3 Arkham Asylum's playable Joker levels could upset the usual ratio of multiplatform sales.
The PS3 Arkham Asylum's playable Joker levels could upset the usual ratio of multiplatform sales.

That won't be the only figure of note for PS3 followers in the August NPD numbers. With Sony announcing the PS3 Slim and a price cut for older versions of the system in August, the hardware sales figures will draw plenty of attention. Interestingly, analysts were split on the instant impact of the Slim announcement and price drop.

Hickey projected PS3 sales to receive a significant bump, reaching 241,000 last month compared to 185,000 in August of 2008. Pachter and Divnich were less optimistic, projecting PS3 sales of 160,000 and 140,000, respectively. Divnich told GameSpot he wouldn't be surprised if his estimate proves to be too low, saying it was published for his clients on August 17, when news of the cut had been leaked but before Sony had officially announced it.

"Without the price cut, the PlayStation 3 was on track to sell 108,000 units for August," Divnich said. "We assumed an additional 32,000 units sold due to the price cut. However, given that the price cut was immediate and some PlayStation 3 Slims hit shelves earlier than expected, it is entirely possible that an additional 60,000 units were sold between the announcement and the end of the retail month, putting sales closer to 170,000 units than 140,000."

Sony's PS3 price cut was followed late in the month by Microsoft with the new $299 point for the Xbox 360 Elite, and Pachter expects the cascading cost reductions to continue. In his note, the analyst reiterated his expectations that Nintendo's still-$249 Wii would soon receive its first price drop, saying he expects such a cut by November.

Despite the tempered near-term expectations, there were glimmers of hope in the analyst notes. Wilson, Pachter, and Divnich all predicted that gaming software sales would return to positive territory in September.

"In September, we expect new releases, The Beatles: Rock Band, Halo ODST, Need for Speed: Shift, Guitar Hero 5, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 to drive sales growth into double-digit positive territory," Pachter wrote.

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These sale figures are based off new game sales correct? And if I'm not mistaken does not include department stores like Wal-mart? Or at least that's what I think I remember here the GS crew talk about on one of the Hotspot's podcasts.

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xtremeflem2day: Um...some of those excuses/comparisons should at least be relevant or at least equal. To start off, Better online features? Really, 360's can web browse without downloading outside programs and exploiting it's lack of security? Blu-Ray represents the overall size and detail that can go into the games. Same with the movies, and yes the PS3 has a video download service as well. 500 gb hard drives allow for more music, videos, photos, and downloadable games so, uh, yeah that's kind of important. I hope this didn't totally crush your world. ( I like both the 360 and PS3, I don't own a 360 because it costs money to play online and I'm in college, so do the math.)

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Yeah, the Wii became a fad just like "going green." Everyone thinks "awe, I better get a Wii so people think I'm cool." Then they let it collect dust.

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capitalthoughts: "Each of the systems have earned their place in the ranking because that is what the public decided" Except that the "public" that "decided" to rank Wii at #1 (based on sales) is made up almost entirely of people who haven't touched a controller since space invaders and pong. It's just a casual crowd that decided to buy a neat little toy that let them wave their hands around. If you were to actually weigh in the opinions of gamers that have been playing all throughout the last few generations, it would be a completely different story. Oh, and with the exception of mario and metriod, I really don't care about any of the games on your list.

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no.. it think that the best sellers will be borderlands or final fantasy 13...those will be 2 tough games to beat sales on.

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to tell you the truth, i don't care about the online features, i have better things to do like, um, bboying we can buy and rent movies too, damn I like GOW and the GOW coming to PS3 next year, and Halo 3 is not unique, I'll stick with Resistance and Killzone, next I don't give a damn about hardware because I'm studying law, not game programming And finally....... I don't give a damn about either console as long as i have either, I JUST WANT TO PLAY SOME GAMES ON MY SPARE TIME THANK YOU.

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Yeah, all you fanboys are right about PS3 and X360 being superior systems that deserve to have better sells then the Wii because they have better graphics. As one such fanboy posted that it is a dust collector. Well, thankfully I don't have to dust off my wii with games like Muramasa, Pro Evolution Soccer (scored higher then PS3 and 360 versions along with Ghostbusters...how does that happen to superior systems??) Wii Sports Resort, Metroid Prime Trilogy, plus wii-ware games such as Contra rebirth, monkey Island...let's not forget about those in the chute...Tower of Shadow a beautiful looking exclusive from Konami, Red Steele 2 , No More Heroes 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid Other M, Dragon Quest X and Monster Hunter Tri. Now, there are other good games on the PS3 and 360 and I am not so much a fanboy that I can't recognize that. The question is, if there isn't one game within this whole list you can't even admit you would wish to try, then you truly are a fanboy troll and not a real gamer. Each of the systems have earned their place in the ranking because that is what the public decided. The grand majority of the public aren't on gamespot either.

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xtremeflem2day: FYI, L4D is not a 360 exclusive. Anyone with a 5 year old PC can play it.

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xtremeflem2day: I spent money on both consoles, now don't be mad because your public education has failed you. Peace.

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The post wasnt to say 360 is better than ps3, because its not. The things i said are just opposing the ps3 fanboys excuses to say ps3 is better. For example.... You have free online? We get more features online. You have blu-ray? we have netflix. You have MGS4, Killzone 2, littlebigplanet? we got GOW, Halo 3 (its gameplay is about skill and is very different from other games, dont say its not unique), and L4D. You have better hardware? Its harder to program on, so at times games will be better on 360. You can upgrade to 500 Gb? we wont need 500 gb, we dont have to install our games. Now there's alot more, too much to list, but take these basic features for both consoles. Each feature for both consoles oppose each other in a way, but are good in their own way. Please admit that. Which do you prefer? Some prefer ps3, some prefer 360. Its fine, just dont go yelling at everybody "My console is better! My console is better!"

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Batman is just AWESOME

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@xtremeflem2day Just embarrassed yourself, you're the one talking about how we're the one's that are jealous, read your own comment just to make sure you know what your talking about

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just played madden 10 on my ps3. it looks nothing like the demo. glad my friend bought it and not me lol

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I really hope 360 and PS3 catch up with/surpass the Wii in sales because they're just so much better systems and the 360 is actually cheaper than the Wii,the PS3 has a Blu-ray player so I guess that's awesome value...unfortunately,there's not a big chance of that happening,even with the recent pick up in sales for the 360 and PS3.The Wii is at frikkin like 56 million. other than that...RB Beatles PWNNZZ0RZ!

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@mztazmz big ups, i agree 100%

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@mztazmz Lmao i bursted out laughing when i read you comment, i just said killzone 2 is great. This is more proof that ps3 fanboys are wrong, they come up with lies and all sorts of crap. Tell me halo 3's storyline if its so bad. PS3 is great, it's exclusives do have better graphics, and the online is free, but 360 definitely has great features too. Read the full comment before you respond, don't embarrass yourself.

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@xtremeflem2day You say you're not a fanboy, but you sure as heck posted a very fanboyish response. Usually fanboys bash other consoles, and you went all out.

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without looking it up, name the 5 best exclusive games on the 360 and i'll holla back.

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@xtremeflem2day yeah.........we could just as easily say that you're jealous cause we got MGS4, Uncharted, and Killzone2. "crappy story with boring characters" could EASILY be applied to Halo or Gears. Makes me laugh to see ignorant 360 boys who refuse to believe that PS3 has great games too. LOL

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@xtremeflem2day The only thing i ever liked about the 360 was Gears of War. Halo was boring as hell and overhyped. Multiplatform games are pretty much the same on both consoles, and it looks like your the one saying one console is better than another

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I don't know why the gaming industry feels it's recession proof. Who do they think buys these games? The parents don't have the money right now to buy their kids overpriced games and $10 DLC every 2 weeks.

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got the beatles rock band today, amazing!

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ps3 sales will spike from here on out. microsoft has the wiggle room for another price cut after the holidays to counter sony. software sales will go up for the rest of the year. the wii, well people just keep buying those dust collectors. no i'm not an analyst. it's just common sense.

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I think the ps3 fanboys are just jealous cause we got GOW, halo, L4D, and all the other bad@ss games, as well as parties. Games that are released on both consoles nearly are always better on 360. Who cares if we pay more? we still get a great gaming experience, we just have money unlike the crying ps3 fanboys. Im not a fanboy, killzone 2 is great, but its hard to program on the ps3, but it took about 3 years to make, and it still had unresponsive controls and a crappy story with boring characters. Now ive had plenty of experience with ps3 fanboys, and they'll just call me a fanboy for saying why you get as good as an experience on the xbox 360, but its not my problem if they can't accept the fact that just because they chose a console, it doesn't mean its better than the other. Peace.

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ps3 is going bye bye

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there really wasn't much out in August, except maybe Arkham Asylum, which was really good, but nothing that should make sales better than last year's, but September of this year appears to have a much better line-up with Beatles Rock Band and Guitar Hero 5

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yesss it is good to be a gamer this holiday season :)

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The gaming drought is certain to finish soon. To fill the middle of the year we have had mediocre big title releases and loads of Indie and Casual games, so it's not surprising. November will see a rise continuing to March '10.

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Sales are down now.....but you'd have to be an idiot to not realize that September to December is where the real money is made.

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Playing with joker is fun... dude's a wild jackass... even fights like it. Some of his attacks are hilarious. Is it worth getting the PS3 version over the X-Box one because of it? Yes. Why? Because it's the same damn game, just extra stuff to play around with.

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These guys are idiots.

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Prepare for a smacking, 360 and Wii owners!!!

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Is he seriously predicting G.I. Joe and Wolfenstein to be good sellers? I'm pretty sure GI Joe tanked in every single review. Wolfenstein might do good, but i highly doubt that this thing will sell anything worthwhile outside the cult following it has. How does this guy come up with this info? He's never right, so why are people still taking his 'word' on an industry he obviously doesn't have any knowledge for. What a loon ...

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In before the Fanboys. Looking forward to the upcoming games this holiday.

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I cannot stand Patcher...everyone take note...and when the time comes go back and look...he's wrong over 70% of the time and how he of all people still has a job it beyond me.

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Where do I sign up to become an analyst? Ummm I guess this might happen, or it won't... They are like the weathermen of the financial world.

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I agree with all three of you now I'm waiting for the fanboy attack

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i agree with both tevoxzi and atopp399

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This is a consolewar bait. Great, preparing to see some 360 fanboys here again. :/ I agree with atopp399

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Analyst's are stupid.

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