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Supabul
Supabul

Wait I thought it was only Nintendo that did this

D-Flatout
D-Flatout

personally, I'd love to see more games like singularity, or some good cyberpunk FPS games, enough of sequels!

jer_1
jer_1

Give a big thanks to the global banking cartels for the worlds crap economy, lets not kid ourselves.

R2BDSi
R2BDSi

So once the economy gets better we could look forward to better games!

drknessfeeds
drknessfeeds

More new ip's preferably but not going to hope for much, I bought all the new ip's he listed.

eBentl
eBentl

Funny, they're also rebooting the Tomb Raider movies

liam82517
liam82517

Its the same with movies. If its not a remake its a reimagining, or prequel. And everything just HAS to be pg13 so as to get as many bums on seats as possible. Those that finance movies, games and music will most likely be the death of modern entertainment.

Lausanna
Lausanna

I would love to see more new IPs. I am bored to death of the AAA sequel machine.

Psycold
Psycold

This is why I hate marketing. Publishers have all these people with graphs telling them FPS games are the only sure fire way to make money right now, and in turn the publishers force the developers to only make generic FPS games. It's no wonder people are so jaded with the gaming market. If publishers had a little faith in the average gamer's intelligence, we would be treated to much more variety. Have you noticed every time a half way decent RTS game comes out on PC, people play it for YEARS and YEARS, because they know it will be a long time before another one comes out. Marketing like this is ruining gaming by not giving the consumer the benefit of the doubt. I feel like almost every aspect of the gaming market needs major revamping.

Psycold
Psycold

@ QOSMSTR - Syndicate is based off an old series of Syndicate and Syndicate Wars games.

QOSMSTR
QOSMSTR

Ugh...I hate that meme... Although I think there should be more new IPs, I understand why they arent taking risks with them. I try to buy all the new IPs i can though. Dead Island, Brutal Legend and Syndicate are all great.

Aeondeity
Aeondeity

I don't mind sequels, as long as they don't become overly tiresome or repetitive. Re-invent itself, and keep the game fresh, not like some developers *cough* EA *cough* Activision. Do take risks, we'll get sick of your games unless you try something new. Indie games wouldn't be popular if they were all the same.

Birkin
Birkin

Man I miss gaming in the 80s and 90s sure there was a lot of platform games but there was a lot more variety in gaming in general as well, why do game devs think games need to be hollywood blockbusters when they're only games, the crazy dev costs for games now is ridicilous, hope indie studios do well because this gen is pretty much as stale as you can get, I used to like fps (like goldeneye, timesplitters, half-life) but most of them and eveygame today has to try and be all one type of game with a few exceptions and that's a shame.

Captain_Splat
Captain_Splat

They need to take more risks everything is cut and paste these days.

ragnar320
ragnar320

you i really do agree with this kind of thinking im kinda torn im a poor college kid so i want to know that the game im gonna buy is worth but at the same time i would like something new and inivitive specefically in the RTS world but that probally wont happen anytime soon

Ripper_TV
Ripper_TV

Syndicate is a household name, LOL.

altair1321
altair1321

Yep, completely agree, games need new IPs. Tired of RUN,SHOOT,KNIFE,RELOAD,RUN,SHOOT,DIE,RESPAWN....or perhaps RUNRUNRUNRUN MASH square button for 3 min. RUNRUN SOLVE PUZZLE

randomtext
randomtext

Brutal Legend was the only game i didn't sell off on ebay last year... I thought it was good, i guess you have to be into the metal thing to get the jokes etc.

RealFabioSooner
RealFabioSooner

It's easy to make such a point about 'too many sequels' when one readily ignores Bastion, Terraria, To the Moon, Catherine, L.A. Noire, Shadows of the Damned, Xenoblade Chronicles, Outland, Stacking, Dead Island, Bulletstorm, Ghost Trick, El Shaddai... And that's only by taking a look at Gamespot's very own best of 2011 nominees. Note that only the first three are indie games (Bastion is already being distributed by a major publisher actually). If we factor indie games and others Gamespot didn't nominate, that list of new IPs just explodes. It's easy to say 'music is sh*t nowadays' and point out to Justin Bibier and Britney Spears or whatever like we've never had sh*tty pop artists before. You're basically doing the same with games and sequels in this video. Nice try at looking cool and funny, mate. But next time, how about PROMOTING NEW IPs MORE instead of complaining about 'too many' sequels? I'm baffled about how gaming journalism often resort to the it's-what-people-want-to-know-about trump card and do not extend the same courtesy to the publishers and developers, which are the ones who actually spend money making these games.

RavenXavier
RavenXavier

The thing that is really killing me about remake fever is that they keep taking good Strategy Titles and turning them into moronic FPS games. Here's a great idea, remake a Strategy Title as an actual STRATEGY TITLE. FPS's are fine, but there's a billion of them out there already. They don't need to re-envision a strategy title with a good name to make yet another FPS.

penpusher
penpusher

I think this is one of the reasons I will always be most fond of the 16 bit era (and 8 bit before it) where innovation was almost a daily thing

kos_maverik
kos_maverik

Hey johny, i think you've got a virus on your face.. Shave it :) !!

Mawy_Golomb
Mawy_Golomb

Let's all just look at the bright side; we don't need to play every single game from a franchise that we've played before. And with so many rare gems to look at, by the time we're done going through a lot of them, we'll be presented with even more new IPs to play around with. After all, nobody is forcing you to play nothing but sequels or games that have their own franchises.

Creatively speaking, it might be better to invest time in different games than ones from the same franchise or franchises that you cannot help but feel obligated to play through (even if you really enjoyed one of its titles). As someone who wants to be in the games industry, I don't see it as a good habit to stick to sequels too much, especially if one wants to be a very creative game designer.

Lithium001
Lithium001

Weighting for Intellectual property 2 :)

DamageIncM
DamageIncM

Just have a look at PSN. Pleeenty of original games that are some of the best games that plenty of people never played... And yes, 'Brutal Legend' should have gotten a sequel. Bring more good music (and cynical humour) to people!

feleas
feleas

Pfft, Brutal Legend is still my #1 favourite game. It was aimed for metal fans, not everyone, lol.

kornhd
kornhd

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare "SEVEN!" hahahahahahaha

sknight175216
sknight175216

@McNeelyJ39 I mean that they aren't traditional sequels. The Elder Scrolls games are basically stand-alone sequels. So while they are in the same universe you could play each individual game with complete disregard of the other games. Take for example The Legend of Zelda: while each game is in the same universe the games are basically at different times and tell different stories. I wouldn't call any Legend of Zelda game a traditional sequel (except for Majora's mask of course ha ha). Games like Modern Warfare however are advancing on the same plot so you can't fully understand without having played the previous game. Basically I define a sequel as a something that continues a story where it left off in the work before it. The Elder Scrolls games each tell their own individual stories and have their own individual lands and characteristics.

Nikolajj
Nikolajj

@McNeelyJ39 Well... the number/year in the game titel means sequal, no matter how you look at it. Its still the same, already testet, consept. The Elder Scrolls games ARE sequals, but he just sticks with listing games with numbers behind it, to make a point.

McNeelyJ39
McNeelyJ39

@sknight175216 Well if The Elder Scrolls games aren't sequals, then how is Battlefield 3 mentioned as a sequal? The Battlefield games are the same universe, with different characters and plot. Same goes for the sports games, no story, not really sequels so to speak there.

isshiah
isshiah

i don't mind sequels to games chock full of lore that deserves to be examined further. that was what i wanted out of dragon age 2.

apocalypsehorse
apocalypsehorse

looking forward to Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning....

simoun51
simoun51

I agree and would say that one other factor is to blame (on top of the bad economy and that the games costs now as much as a movie to make): gaming is now mainstream, in the 90s, games were made by gamers for gamers; so for a small audience that took the time the follow what was going on. Now games are made by studios to appeal to the general public; the titles must be known so that parents and grandparents will buy them for their kids... So publishers reuse the same name to take advantage of the brand. I think there is still the same "new IP" industry as in the 90s, just look at all the indie publishers, the online web-based or client based games... It is simply hidden behind the big productions. We just need to look for it.

shanethewolf
shanethewolf

I've noticed this same thing for a long time now and I totally agree. Music, movies, TV, books and games are all so stale these days. When I think back to the 90s there were so many different music styles being introduced from Drum n Bass, Eurodance, Trance to Grunge and Brit pop. There were so many original and edgy movies and games were changing in dramatic ways. But that said, games in the early to mid 90s were often created by small teams, required small budgets and there was a lot less to lose if a title flopped.

sknight175216
sknight175216

@McNeelyJ39 The Elder Scrolls games aren't sequels. They are completely different games based in the same Universe. At least that's how I see it.

nik0la2
nik0la2

Terraria was the only game that I enjoyed last year. In recent year I've mostly been playing games from my own personal golden age of gaming (`90-`94) and silver age of gaming (2000-2005). I don't know if the gaming market went to ruin or I'm just getting old, but I feel like I'm on the verge of quitting gaming for good.

shymis
shymis

@oldschoolvandal I totally agree with you - if a sequel is good, I will buy it and play it. But still companies shouldn't: a) make the mistake to continue an already finished story and b) make a ton of games on the same theme. What I want to say with these two things - some games are created with no plans of a sequel, but some of the game developers years later continue an already finished story. Sometimes the results are great, but often gamers compare the old game with the sequel and they get disappointed, because the new one doesn't have the spirit of the old one or simply the young players don't get the idea behind it or think the style(or the idea itself) is too old for XXI century. About b) - do you remember the period when most of the big FPS names were about WW1 or WW2? Eventually there were a lot of games, that recreated this wars and gamers got fed up with it. Then FPS-s moved forward to the present or future battles.

gameswii10
gameswii10

me too sexyweapons im sick of call of duty next thing i know its gonna be cod 9000 im sick of this sh*t thats the tile xD

gamesrok345
gamesrok345

A funny, but eye-opening video isn't it...

OldKye
OldKye

@Marscaleb although in principle i agree i want something new lol more and more i find myself going "oh that looks like a good game" then not buying it cause i have the other 3 and they'll make another next year anyway *cough* *cough*

DJ_Dan0
DJ_Dan0

Thaaat's why I have been liking Indie games so much!

cccp3000
cccp3000

So that's what happened to the World Economy! kinda makes my stomach moves... Metaphorically.

Marscaleb
Marscaleb

You know, whether it is a new IP or something we already love, I think all we really want is a good game. If the game can be fun, who cares if it is original or not?

ZachMasta
ZachMasta

A well reviewed game doesn't mean it should be a hit or not. Take a look at the birth of big hits, such as gears of war. It was a success because everything it encompasses is iconic, whereas a game like enslaved- Sure it's a good, original, new IP, but it doesn't have that iconic presence to make it a successful title. Sometimes it's as simple as the name. Gears of war... Now that sticks with you. Enslaved, not as much. Just a small thought that is slightly off topic

McNeelyJ39
McNeelyJ39

what about the elder scrolls 5 for the sequels?

jer_1
jer_1

I should say even tough I don't generally like the tirade of "samey" games being released there truly have been some great indie titles recently that are quite original.